Lakewooder

Avi really doesn't care about the neighborhood -- it's all about him!

Mballar

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...se.2e89a46.html

Dallas officers investigated over statements about shooting

Man says he was shot at needlessly; charges against him dropped

09:08 PM CDT on Friday, September 14, 2007

By TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
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Two Dallas police officers are under criminal investigation for making "inconsistent statements" about an incident where one officer shot at a man who was accused of trying to run him down with his pickup.

Stanley McDaniel

Prosecutors, at the request of the Dallas Police Department, on Thursday dropped an aggravated assault charge against Gerardo Lopez, 27, the man who the officers said tried to strike one of them down after he had been driving recklessly in northwest Dallas in late August.

"The fact that we released the suspect makes a pretty bold statement," said Sgt. Gary Kirkpatrick, commander of a squad that investigates officer-involved shootings. "We felt uncomfortable with all the statements that had been made."

Several eyewitnesses said during interviews that Mr. Lopez did not try to run over Officer Andrew Cortes, and that the officer repeatedly fired without provocation.

Officers Cortes and Officer Stanley McDaniel have been placed on restricted duty while authorities investigate what, if any, laws or policies were broken.

Officer Cortes, a six-year veteran, did not return a call seeking comment. Officer McDaniel, who joined the department in 1989, declined to comment, saying, "I would love to comment, but by it being under investigation I can't really get into that."

Mr. Lopez could not be reached for comment.

Busy area

About 1 a.m. on Aug. 27, the two officers were working off duty security in their uniforms at a tavern in the 2900 block of Lombardy Lane. It's a busy area, with many homeless people hanging out near a convenience store and a bustling taco stand.

The two officers told investigators that they saw Mr. Lopez's 1994 Chevrolet Silverado driving recklessly in the tavern parking lot and then drive away. A few minutes later, Officer Cortes said Mr. Lopez returned to the area and drove into a parking lot across the street.

Officer Cortes told investigators that Mr. Lopez "was revving the engine and driving the suspect vehicle directly at him while he [Officer Cortes] was standing on a curb," the police report said.

The officer, being in "imminent fear of his life" fired an "unknown number" of shots at Mr. Lopez's truck, the report said. The truck then fled.

The officers told investigators that they flagged down a tow truck and asked those inside to get a license plate for the fleeing truck, but they did not mention a second barrage of shots that investigators later determined Officer Cortes had fired at the fleeing Silverado.

Investigators knew immediately they had a problem because of ballistic evidence found at the scene and because of statements from the tow truck driver.

But eyewitness accounts also raise questions about whether the officers lied about Mr. Lopez trying to run down the officer.

Keith Davis, who works in the parking lot of the taco stand, told WFAA-TV (Channel 8) that Mr. Lopez had been "spinning" his tires and it had angered the officers. He said Mr. Lopez then backed up to the Dumpsters trash bins by the nearby convenience store and that Officer Cortes told the other policeman, "Let's go get him. Let's go get him."

He said Officer Cortes ran down to the curb, pulled out his weapon and then opened fire at Mr. Lopez as he pulled out of the crowded convenience store parking lot.

"He just pulled out normal to the street and he just started firing on him. Boom. Boom. Boom," Mr. Davis said. He said the truck then turned the corner and the officers chased after it on foot. "Then you heard three more shots," Mr. Davis said.

Barney Cox, the tow truck driver, said he heard two sets of shots and then saw the police officers. He said the officers asked him if he could follow and get the truck's license plate.

He followed for only a short distance before the Silverado swerved at him. "I caught his bumper and I spun him out" in an apartment complex parking lot, Mr. Cox said.

Mr. Cox said he blocked the truck with his tow truck to prevent Mr. Lopez from leaving. He then got out of the tow truck and took the keys from the ignition of Mr. Lopez's truck. He said he saw numerous beer cans in the Silverado's cab.

Lot worker queried

Mr. Davis said that after the shooting, an officer approached him and asked if he had seen the man "charge at the officer with the truck."

He said he told the officer that the man hadn't tried to run over Officer Cortes. He said at that point, the officer was no longer interested in anything else he had to say.

Lt. Craig Miller, commander of the homicide unit, said police are vigorously trying to find out what happened that night and are seeking to find any eyewitnesses.

"We are looking into inconsistencies in this investigation," Lt. Miller said. "Our evidence is leading us to the conclusion that things may not be as they appear."

If criminal investigators determine that the officers lied to get Mr. Lopez falsely charged with aggravated assault, they could face charges of tampering with a government document or even federal civil-rights violations. They could also lose their jobs.

According to police records, Officer Cortes has been repeatedly accused of excessive force and mistreating people, but internal investigators determined that none of the allegations could be proven. In 2006, he was found to have violated the department's off-duty employment policy. He has about 12 commendations.

Officer McDaniel has a lengthy and troubled disciplinary history, including several suspensions. Earlier this month, he was arrested in East Texas on a drunken driving charge.

Officer McDaniel, who also has about 30 commendations, attributed his problems to being a hard worker who arrests a lot of criminals.

"If you're doing police work, you're going to have a record," he said.

Byron Harris of WFAA-TV contributed to this report.

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Police say man who died in custody was delirious

10:14 PM CDT on Wednesday, September 26, 2007

From Staff Reports

A 49-year-old Dallas man died in police custody Tuesday after tearing up his apartment, stripping off his clothes and resisting aid from officers, police said.

Police suspect he suffered from "excited delirium," a medical condition brought on by a severe chemical imbalance in the body that often results from long-term drug use. About 2:30 p.m., police and paramedics were called to the 4000 block of Sunnyvale Street, where they found the man face-down in the parking lot, Dallas police Sgt. Gary Kirkpatrick said.

Police handcuffed him and moved him into the shade, Sgt. Kirkpatrick said. The man went into cardiac arrest and was taken to Baylor University Medical Center, where he died. His name had not been released pending notification of relatives.

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Mballar

. . .you decide.

http://www.google.com/search?q=exci...lient=firefox-a

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RobertB

How about "false dichotomy"?

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erw150

Wow

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trolleygirl

Sorry. I just can't work up enough sympathy for someone who has wrecked his/her body from a life of long-term drug use.

Anyway, it doesn't seem like the police did anything wrong here. Does anyone think they should have done anything differently here?

Mballar

Without a doubt.

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Mballar

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...ts.2b18ec7.html

Dallas officers asked some to sign blank tickets, inquiry finds

2 Dallas officers, who had been cleared, wrote in offenses later, police find Dallas: In citing habitual offenders, two policemen wrote in offenses later

12:00 AM CST on Saturday, December 15, 2007

By TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
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Dallas police investigators have concluded that two officers made homeless people, prostitutes and other habitual violators sign blank citations so that the officers could fill out the tickets later with whatever offenses they chose.
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In an interview with The News, R.B. Barton says he was regularly asked to sign blank tickets by Senior Cpl. Timothy Stecker. Senior Cpl. Jeffrey Nelson also was found to have used blank citations.

One of the two officers, Senior Cpl. Timothy Stecker, had earlier been cleared of any serious wrongdoing related to his ticket-writing practices. The other, Senior Cpl. Jeffrey Nelson, is already on restricted duty as he awaits possible disciplinary action for engaging in a pattern of misconduct related to ticket writing.

Several people have told investigators that Cpls. Stecker and Nelson made them sign blank citations while working overnight patrol shifts in Old East Dallas.

"They had me signing blank tickets every time they seen me," R.B. Barton, who was homeless until recently, said in an interview with The Dallas Morning News. "They said it was 'speed writing.' That's just where you sign the ticket and they'll fill it out later."

Another Dallas police officer backed up Mr. Barton's story, telling investigators that he was a witness when Cpl. Stecker made Mr. Barton sign a blank citation this year. He said Cpl. Nelson also watched that incident.

Cpl. Stecker admitted to investigators that he occasionally had Mr. Barton sign blank citations but said he did so as a "courtesy" because Mr. Barton often did not want to wait around for his copies. . . .

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Mballar

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...n1.36bdfe2.html

2 officers on leave after singer alleges assault

Old East Dallas: Accuser says off-duty police held him, friend at gunpoint

12:00 AM CST on Friday, December 28, 2007

By STEVE THOMPSON / The Dallas Morning News
stevethompson@dallasnews.com

Dallas police are investigating whether two off-duty officers were involved in an assault early Thursday against popular country music singer Steve Holy.

"It appears that two unidentified Dallas police officers met the complainant at an off-duty social event and later went to the residence of the complainant," police spokesman Lt. Vernon Hale said in a prepared statement. "At some point, witnesses state that one of the men assaulted one of the hosts" at the home.

Lt. Hale offered little further information about the incident, but a 911 call record shows officers were dispatched about 5:30 a.m. to the Old East Dallas home that belongs to Mr. Holy. And through an attorney late Thursday, the singer said he and a friend were assaulted and gave his own account of what happened at the house in the 5700 block of Vickery Boulevard.

According to the account Mr. Holy said he gave to police, he was home for the holidays from his tour and went out Wednesday night with a friend to a bar on Greenville Avenue near his home.

Once there, they ran into an off-duty Dallas police officer whom Mr. Holy had met before. That officer introduced them to two other officers, and the five of them began drinking together.

When the bars closed, Mr. Holy invited the group back to his home to play foosball in his garage. Shortly after they arrived, the officer he had met before left. The other two officers remained.

About 5 a.m., according to Mr. Holy's account, one of the officers became belligerent, challenging Mr. Holy about his identity as the country music singer. Mr. Holy showed them his picture on his album, but the officer still wasn't satisfied.

"Do you know who you're [expletive] with, you're [expletive] with a Dallas police officer," Mr. Holy told investigators the man yelled at him. He said the officers showed their badges.

The officer yelled to the second officer to bring him his gun from the car, according to the account, and soon the officers were holding Mr. Holy and his friend at gunpoint.

Mr. Holy told police one of the officers held a gun to the back of his head while he lay face down on the kitchen floor. At one point, he went upstairs, telling the officers he would get his identification, he said, and told his wife, who had been sleeping in a bedroom, to call 911.

Meanwhile, his friend escaped to the home of a neighbor, who called 911. The off-duty officers left before police arrived. According to Mr. Holy's account, they threatened him with retaliation should he tell anyone what happened.

Lt. Hale said Thursday that it was unclear who the two officers were. At least one witness indicated they were officers Randy Anderson and Paul Loughridge, Lt. Hale said. Both were placed on administrative leave Thursday.

"The Dallas police public integrity unit will investigate the possible criminal allegations," his statement said, "and Internal Affairs will investigate the administrative portion if these in fact were officers."

A recent roster indicates that Officer Anderson, 25, and Officer Loughridge, 48, have been with the department since 2005.

"There have been no charges or arrests at this time," Lt. Hale said. "Detectives will continue to investigate the incident and take appropriate action."

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trolleygirl

What a couple of effin morons. WTF is worng the recruits that we keep hiring? Dallas used to be one of the best departments in the country. Why do we keep hiring idiots?

And on that note, I still firmly believe that we should have a residency requirement for DPD officers. I think that if they all live in Dallas then they will care a little more about their community and will behave better while out in public where their neighbors know who they are.

KBilly

Amazing!

Also, someone should tell the DMN that the 5700 block of Vickery isn't "Old East Dallas." It's smack dab in the heart of M-Streets/Lower Greenville, around the corner from Terelli's!

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psukhu

I guess cops like the cops from the movie Superbad are not that far fetched.

Mballar

I totally agree TG. It's important to have officers living in the community they're sworn to protect. Otherwise they'll feel detached and won't care as much.

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MisterNifty

I met a lot of people in college who were trying to get their required 60 hours to be elligible for training as police officers. It would be interesting to check on the grade point averages of police officers in general because at the time most felt like this requirement was BS. Perhaps this unnecessary education by police officers goes to their heads? Perhaps officers are out of touch with most of society because of this unnecessary eduation?
Perhaps one should have these officers go through a Marine boot camp, instead, before having them also spend a year in some kind of civil service.

trolleygirl

Sorry but you have it all wrong. It's not the education that gos to their heads. Nothing goes to these idiot's heads but too much testosterone. My sister was a cop (fired last year due to DUI) and she dated one of these guys mentioned in the story. It's difficult to fathom that my sister actually has a Bachelor's degree in the first place. The guys in the story were recruited together and they are just little dickheads- I know. I am smarter than they are put together and I have less college than they do put together. The one guy, he's like 25 and thinks he's some stud with the ladies. He totaled my sister's car once. Doesn't say much for her intelligence, again, for dating a moron like that. The Dallas Police Department is like one big giant frat party- it's where young people go when they don't want to grow up. The party never ends with these guys. The fact that they wear a badge and carry a gun makes it just that much more scary. then they end up doing stupid-ass shit like writing blank tickets and stealing cell phones from the property room for their girlfriends to use (something that another ex-boyfriend of my sister's did...remember the guy who screwed up the stolen cell phone ring??) The list of crap like this just goes n and on.

MisterNifty

Well, if these peace officers act the way you say with an education, they certainly wouldn't act any worse without one. Perhaps we could do way with the education requirement altogether and save a lot of money?
I know a lot of old people who could sure use a lot of help mowing their lawns, a lot of prostitutes who need a lot of help finding qualifed housing to live in as a habitat and a lot of youth today could sure use role models to help them stay off dope.

trolleygirl

The education requirement is a total load of crap. It does absolutely nothing for the department. Come on, we still have to offer $10,000 sign-on bonuses and there is no requirement that they stay with DPD after they graduate the academy. So, we have a hard time finding qualified officers in the first place, we require that they are "educated" (okay we want them to be able to at least read and maybe spell big words like 'adjudication' and I suppose college is the best place for that?????), then we have to bribe them to join the department where we pay them a nice salary to train (come on, $42,000 entry level position with only an associates degree, maybe not top cop pay in the metro where the median household income is $38,000, still that's a pretty sweet deal), and then they are free to go after we just paid for their $90,000 TCLEOS training. No wonder they treat their jobs as a joke. I mean, who gets drunk, screams about being a Dallas cop (big effin deal) and then holds a gun up to somebody's head who has just spent all night buying you booze??? Only an idiot. By the same token, what kind of a moron invites two strangers over to his house to drink and party until the wee hours??? Who is this "Steve Holy" person anyway?

(ah, there's my case-in-point....only an idiot would listen to country music...)

I like your idea of military training more and more. You should see some of these recruits when they come out of academy. Some of them are so out of shape they are immediately assigned desk jobs. It's pathetic what passes for mediocrity from the DPD. Screw "good', we settle for far less than that.

LH_Newbie

But round is a shape!

AeroD

Usually a lot of ex-military (esp. USMC and Army Infantry guys) end up in law enforcement. But nowadays, you have companies like Irving's own Dyncorp, that hire ex-military and pay them 6 figures to do security detail in places like Baghdad.

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trolleygirl

Maybe the City of Dallas would be better off subcontracting police duties with Dyncorp.

MisterNifty

There was a political theory going around which claimed that a negative effect of ending the cold war would be increased persecution and civil rights violations by our government towards its own people. This amounts to the highschool football team bullying all the kids in school because their football season got cancelled.

Mballar

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...er.29a9f27.html
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Lawyer alleges police intimidation by Dallas officer

06:16 AM CST on Tuesday, January 15, 2008

By TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
teiserer@dallasnews.com

A longtime Dallas lawyer says an officer already facing a disciplinary hearing for the way he wrote tickets recently tried to intimidate him at the Frank Crowley Courts Building.

Ed Gray, 68, also says Senior Cpl. Timothy Stecker enlisted another officer's help to threaten him with a citation for disorderly conduct or assault because he had angered Cpl. Stecker.

Both Cpl. Stecker and the other officer, Senior Cpl. Dean Overall, face an internal affairs investigation in the incident.

"I never said, 'I'm going to put you in jail or write you a ticket.' I just wanted to make a point that his conduct wasn't right," Cpl. Overall said in an interview.

Haakon Donnelly, Cpl. Stecker's attorney, declined to comment in detail but said Mr. Gray made "comments to Mr. Stecker that weren't very gentlemanly."

Cpl. Stecker already faces a disciplinary hearing after internal investigators determined that he made people sign blank tickets so he could fill in their offenses later.

Mr. Gray said he came to the courthouse Dec. 19 because his son, who is his law partner, was representing a couple accused of public lewdness. Cpl. Stecker had made the arrests in that case.

When he arrived, he said, he learned prosecutors had dismissed the cases. He said he saw Cpl. Stecker in the prosecutors' workroom in civilian clothes.

Mr. Gray admits that what he did next was meant to be provocative.

As he and Cpl. Stecker left the courtroom area, he told him, "Stecker, I thought they [suspended] you." (He used an expletive associated with someone being fired.)

Cpl. Stecker, who is on restricted duty, then demanded Mr. Gray's name, according to Mr. Gray's internal affairs complaint and a police report that lists Cpl. Stecker as the complainant.

The police report and Mr. Gray say that the lawyer told Cpl. Stecker that he wasn't going to tell him his name because he didn't want a bogus citation sent to a bogus address.

Mr. Gray said he then walked away.

The police report states that Mr. Gray was yelling and talking in an "extremely loud voice" and describes Mr. Gray as "fleeing out the door."

Both men soon encountered each other again in a lobby.

The police report states that Cpl. Overall, who was in uniform, approached Mr. Gray and asked for his name for a police report.

According to Mr. Gray's complaint, Cpl. Stecker waved over Cpl. Overall, who then asked for his identification. Mr. Gray said he demanded to know why they wanted his identification.

What Mr. Gray said occurred next was not in the official police report, later filed by a third officer at Cpl. Stecker's request to document the incident.

Mr. Gray said Cpl. Overall told him he needed his name because he was going to issue him a citation for misdemeanor assault, an allegation that Cpl. Overall denied.

"Do you think I touched Stecker?" Mr. Gray asked, according to his complaint to internal investigators.

Mr. Gray said Cpl. Overall replied that he was going to charge him with "verbal assault" before then telling him that he was going to cite him for "disorderly conduct."

Mr. Gray said he informed Cpl. Overall that the definition of disorderly conduct is "abusive, indecent or profane language which tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" and added, "Where is the breach of the peace here?"

After he began quoting the law to them, Mr. Gray said, the two officers walked away.

"I was astonished" by what happened, said Mr. Gray, a prosecutor at the courthouse in the 1970s. "It was beyond surprising. It was unbelievable, and that's why I got so indignant."

Cpl. Overall said in an interview that all he was trying to do was identify Mr. Gray because Cpl. Stecker wanted to file a complaint with the bar over Mr. Gray's behavior. He said he told Mr. Gray there was a possibility that he had "verbally assaulted Tim Stecker."

Cpl. Overall said he also told Mr. Gray that he may be guilty of disorderly conduct because Cpl. Stecker had a witness who was offended by Mr. Gray's earlier comments to Cpl. Stecker.

Cpl. Overall said once he confirmed Mr. Gray's identity, he ended the conversation and walked away, but Mr. Gray followed him to the elevator and continued to talk to him.

"He kept telling me that he's a citizen, that he had a right to talk to anybody he wanted," Cpl. Overall said. "I told him a couple of times, I said: 'You're an officer of the court. You're not a private citizen in this courthouse.' "

Mr. Gray recalled the conversation differently.

He said Cpl. Overall told him that he shouldn't have talked in such a disrespectful manner to a police officer.

"I responded that 'Stecker and I are both citizens, and I have a right to speak to him like I would to any citizen,' " he wrote in his complaint.

He said that Cpl. Overall responded: "He is not a citizen. He is a police officer."

Police Chief David Kunkle said police investigators are taking Mr. Gray's allegations seriously.

"If the officers used the power of their position to do something that was either unprofessional or illegal, that violates the very strong standards we have in the department," Chief Kunkle said.

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A lot of officers (not just DPD) engage in this kind of abuse of power all too often. If a citizen says something to an officer that he/she doesn't like, the officer threatens a "disorderly conduct," or "verbal assault" charge/arrest. As the attorney in this story correctly pointed out, the standard is "abusive, indecent or profane language which tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace" NOT whether the officer liked the comment or felt disrespected. This type of misconduct needs to be highlighted and corrected. The respect that police deserve is born partially out of the public's trust that our officers conduct themselves pursuant to a code of ethics that implies a higher standard of conduct than what has been exemplified lately.

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trolleygirl

Mballer- I agree 125%. I mean, just lok at the case where the two officers were fired because they held that country mucic singer at gunopint (I think that story is filed in the "Idiots" thread...)

The DPD is one big huge frat ahouse. If you aren't a good ole boy, or if you don't "go along to get along", they will screw you and the Chief is the "grand poobah" of the whole affair. He fired a female officer because of some allegations that she "stole" $8 worth of toilet paper, then the guy who stole tires from the impound lot and solld them on Ebay- for the whole world to see- gets reinstated. Kunkle says he's weeding out corruption and the perception of a poorly run department, then he's talking about allowing officers with drug offenses. Oh please; he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. He is doing NOTHING good for the department. Well, unless you're in the club, you don't make waves and you don't get caught doing stupid shit.

Okay kids, here's a fun, posted in the Dallas Obverver's Unfair Park today (courtesy of yours truly...) KIt's appropos for this thread. Enjoy.

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unf...pd_youre_it.php

jdwillis

Someone has a fine sense of irony.

Mballar

I hope Chief Kunkle's message is starting to sink in with the rank and file. This type of behavior can't be tolerated. Police officers are charged with an enormous amount of power. When that power is abused, and then fellow officers try to cover it up, the police become nothing more than a gang themselves.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...d.81770e66.html
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2 Dallas police officers disciplined in West Dallas pepper-spraying 3:06 PM CT

03:26 PM CDT on Tuesday, September 16, 2008

By TANYA EISERER / The Dallas Morning News
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Dallas police have placed on administrative leave two officers involved in an August incident in which a man was taken to West Dallas, doused with pepper spray and left there.

Police officials are also asking that a grand jury review the actions of Officer Michael Loeb and Senior Cpl. Antonio Lopez to determine whether there was criminal misconduct.

Grand jurors will be asked to consider whether Officer Loeb should be indicted on a charge of official oppression, a Class A misdemeanor. They will also be asked whether both officers should face indictment over allegations that they tampered with a government record, also a Class A misdemeanor.

Both officers wrote reports that police officials believe are not truthful.

Early on Aug. 26, a man identified as Michael Reyes, 19, had been hanging around a northwest Dallas neighborhood and asking a 77-year-old man for money, officials said. Officers responded to a “prowler call” about 2:45 a.m., police said.

Officer Loeb and Cpl. Lopez wrote in reports that they gave Mr. Reyes a ride to West Dallas and that Officer Loeb’s pepper spray canister malfunctioned, accidentally spraying them and Mr. Reyes.

Mr. Reyes reported the incident to police. Investigators questioned a rookie officer whom Cpl. Lopez was training, but they have declined to say what he told them.

All three officers are assigned to the northwest patrol station. Officer Loeb was hired in 2004 and has no record of being disciplined. Cpl. Lopez, a nine-year veteran, has received minor discipline for a variety of infractions.

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bmartin

I am researching a case where two young men were pulled over by police during this time the passanger answered his cell phone, the police screamed at him from their vehicle get off the phone so passanger told person on phone I have to go and hung up! Police than ran towards the passanger and took him to the ground then screamed at driver to get the h_ __ out of there! The police then continued to beat the passanger!

PLEASE IF YOU HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF SIMULAR SITUATION CONTACT ME!

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Someone

wow this case would almost sound horrible

but I have a strong suspicion that you left out a multitude of details about what the original pull over was for

like the passenger doing a drive by, an armed robbery, known wanted felons in the car, high speed chase just before they stopped

next time please tell the whole story not just the part that helps make your "big payout" cases sound so bad

downtownguy25

Its the first post by the member, prob just spam.