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    Quote Originally Posted by James Michael
    I'd be happy to share my proposal, but it's a 100Mb, 43-slide PowerPoint that would take a lot of time to translate into a PDF. More than that though, I think to post it would make it appear I was making a case for my concept and possibly perpetuate the same idea downtownguy can't seem to let go of, that I only like my ideas and nobody else's.

    If it helps though, I'll simply describe it: My medium is found-object sculpture, and my proposal was to work with businesses and residents to gather actual objects from the neighborhood that relate to the history and culture of Deep Ellum. From those I intended to design and construct sculptures that would represent people like musicians, factory workers, or any of the other archetypal characters from the district's past. There is a relatively new technology that allows three-dimensional objects to be laser scanned and recreated in enlarged molds and cast in bronze, so that, for instance, I could create a fifteen-foot high assemblage of a blues musician with the torso of a greatly enlarged guitar or other musical instrument, complete with the most accurate details.
    If Deep Ellum grows and thrives, I don't see why your proposal couldn't be used sometime in the not too distant future. Sounds like a great idea to me.

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    Comparing Deep Ellum Station art to Deep Ellum Gateway

    Quote Originally Posted by BigD5349
    I was one of the guys who was disappointed to see the Good Latimer tunnel demolished, but I do like the way the new DART station is shaping up. On the train platform, they've now hung artwork in the panels where they typically hang advertising. They are ghostly images of the area from the past, but definitely pretty cool IMO.

    Blind Lemon Jefferson and old Deep Ellum:


    Good Latimer Tunnel:


    Meadows Block:
    With so much more attention being paid to Million-Dollar Gumby --er-- I mean Traveling Man, and to the hand-painted murals nearby, I'd like to ask if you folks are as fond of this more understated art in what DART calls the windscreens of the station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Michael
    With so much more attention being paid to Million-Dollar Gumby --er-- I mean Traveling Man, and to the hand-painted murals nearby, I'd like to ask if you folks are as fond of this more understated art in what DART calls the windscreens of the station.
    I am just as fond of them. What's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeroD
    I am just as fond of them. What's your point?
    I'm not trying to make a point. I just noticed that the windscreens, which I find more interesting and engaging, did not seem to be getting quite as much favorable attention on this forum. So, realizing I have atypical tastes and often find myself outside the mainstream on things like this, I wanted to find out if people really didn't care as much for them, and if not, why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Michael
    I'm not trying to make a point. I just noticed that the windscreens, which I find more interesting and engaging, did not seem to be getting quite as much favorable attention on this forum. So, realizing I have atypical tastes and often find myself outside the mainstream on things like this, I wanted to find out if people really didn't care as much for them, and if not, why.
    Deep Ellum was always an eclectic place. You had a toy store, a brewery, a southwest furniture store, a jazz bar, a whole slew of different musical venues, among other things call Deep Ellum home.

    This clash of the screens, Gumby and murals in my not-so-humble opinion actual take us closer to the Deep Ellum of yore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbus Civil
    I still miss the animated kitty that fell down and hit his head
    Does anyone know if that was a J.Sasso creation?

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    I like the screens just fine. They're not terribly iconic or noteworthy -- but they seem like a nice subtle touch to the station. However, whenever I next get back down to Dallas I'll be heading to the area to check out the sculptures and murals and probably won't spend much time with these screens: unless I have an ungodly long wait for the train.
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    DART Green Line: Deep Ellum station doesn't really serve Deep Ellum
    7:53 AM Tue, Sep 08, 2009
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    http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallas...en-line-2.html

    Last week, we had an opportunity to get a sneak peek at the new DART Green Line stops that run from the Pearl Street Station down to MLK Boulevard. I was very impressed with the stations at MLK and Fair Park, as I blogged last week, but there's still a lot to be done in the surrounding areas to take full advantage of those stations.

    But at the Deep Ellum station, I have a major concern about the station itself. The station isn't really tied in to an already very well developed neighborhood, the historic (if struggling) Deep Ellum. I understand the need for it to be a couple blocks north of Deep Ellum. You can't change the line and drag it south. But the way the station is designed is a 180-degree difference from MLK. Whereas that station draws you toward Fair Park and the neighborhood, this station leaves you standing in the middle of a very busy intersection.

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    this station leaves you standing in the middle of a very busy intersection.
    Yes, right where our nifty tunnel was. Great job, guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjatune™
    Possibly a beacon for ET.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjatune™
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    A reflection of snow clouds et al?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjatune™
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    Quote Originally Posted by tamtagon
    A reflection of snow clouds et al?
    Nay, tis only one 'snow flake'.

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    "The Traveling Man is too trite for such a gritty area known for bluesy nightclubs, repair shops, underground theater and tattoo joints. He is too light and cheerful; with a guitar headstock on stainless steel tubes, he looks like the spawn of Gumby and the pipe people from the Vesicare commercials."

    This idea of what Deep Ellum is or was, is itself a moving target. What I remember when I was younger from Deep Ellum was Left Brain/Right Brain, and La Casa Mexicana. These stores where not necessarily gritty. Different? Absolutely. That is why "Gumby" fits. Not everything in Deep Ellum was a Nirvana show. The Deep Ellum Cafe, Sambuca or the Green Room also examples of business that were different, but not gritty.
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    Well, the article that calls the Traveling Man "too trite" also starts out like this, so perhaps the writer's perspective tilts a bit to the West anyway:
    There’s not much in Dallas that needs to be closer to Fort Worth. The drive east is easily justified for fancy stores, new restaurants and art cinemas. When you get right down to it, it’s better that they are on that side of the Trinity River. Let Dallas deal with the bad traffic and abysmal infrastructure. If it has something we need, it’s only 30 minutes away
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    I think the Traveling Man fits the area perfectly.

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    I love it!

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    New burger joint in old house between Deep Ellum Station and Baylor Hospital on Gaston:

    http://www.urbandaddy.com/dal/food/1...DAL_Restaurant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakewooder View Post
    New burger joint in old house between Deep Ellum Station and Baylor Hospital on Gaston:

    http://www.urbandaddy.com/dal/food/1...DAL_Restaurant
    That looks awesome. Thanks for the tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmstreetdallas View Post
    That looks awesome. Thanks for the tip!
    I think pegusus had a review of this as well. Simple burgers cooked well. Nothing gimmicky. I like it.

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    Based on the pictures they posted on urbandaddy.com the place looks like someone spent a good amount of time planning and remodeling the interior. The inside certainly looks like a quality operation lets hope they can find enough customers though.

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    http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2011...urgers-baylor/

    started by homebuilder, who redid the spot himself, hence the nice finish out. The choice of chefs certainly seems to match the decor, but the owner doesn't have too much experience in the food industry. Still, I have high hopes.

    This might make up for losing Metro just up the street.


    Also heard that Ben Spies of MotoGP fame is an investor..... which is pretty cool. Apparently the F1 track in Austin is still going forward after some significant delays. MotoGP and V8 Supercars to race starting in 2013.
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    Stackhouse opens tomorrow per their facebook page.

    https://www.facebook.com/stackhousetx



    UPDATE: tomorrow could mean today, since they posted that 14 hours ago.
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    OK, dumb question alert::::

    I'm sure I missed it, but were *any* of the tunnel murals saved before the Station was built? If so, are they preserved/displayed anywhere?

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    I think there are a few pieces mixed in with the new sculptures, right?

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    The Traveling Man - Waiting on a Train guy (the one sitting down with a guitar in his hands) is sitting against a piece of the original tunnel wall. Unfortunately, all the murals were destroyed. I have them all documented, I'm sure a few others did, too.

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    Stackhouse burger was as good as any I've had commercially in Dallas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhops View Post
    Stackhouse burger was as good as any I've had commercially in Dallas
    I was underwhelmed. But it's a cool place and has other sandwiches and salads on the menu, so I'll just get something else next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers100 View Post
    I was underwhelmed. But it's a cool place and has other sandwiches and salads on the menu, so I'll just get something else next time.
    for reference, what places have overwhelmed you?

    I am generally not impressed with any commercial burger in town, although I haven't tried the fancy burger at the Grape yet.

    Had fish sandwich at Stackhouse last night and it was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhops View Post
    I am generally not impressed with any commercial burger in town, although I haven't tried the fancy burger at the Grape yet.
    Have you tried the burger at Maple & Motor (on Maple Ave. south of Medical District)? I don't eat beef, but my wife, friends, and D Magazine all love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by profbarium View Post
    Have you tried the burger at Maple & Motor (on Maple Ave. south of Medical District)? I don't eat beef, but my wife, friends, and D Magazine all love it.
    several times, yes. Very decent burger. I think Stackhouse has the edge on beef and bun quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhops View Post
    several times, yes. Very decent burger. I think Stackhouse has the edge on beef and bun quality.
    Awesome. Thanks for the tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by profbarium View Post
    Awesome. Thanks for the tip!
    that's my opinion anyways, but I certain enjoy Maple & Motor, Angry Dog and the other standards.

    I also enjoy the point burger at First & Ten, and all of the burgers at Cock & Bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhops View Post
    for reference, what places have overwhelmed you?

    I am generally not impressed with any commercial burger in town, although I haven't tried the fancy burger at the Grape yet.

    Had fish sandwich at Stackhouse last night and it was good.
    I don't really shoot for an overwhelming... but look to at least be whelmed and not underwhelmed.

    I'm not a big burger fan and don't eat them often. So I'm no expert on them or the local options.

    The place was cool though and I give extra room for error to people investing in the parts of Dallas that matter (e.g. Deep Ellum) so I look forward to going back and trying a different sandwich or salad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangers100 View Post
    I don't really shoot for an overwhelming... but look to at least be whelmed and not underwhelmed.

    I'm not a big burger fan and don't eat them often. So I'm no expert on them or the local options.

    The place was cool though and I give extra room for error to people investing in the parts of Dallas that matter (e.g. Deep Ellum) so I look forward to going back and trying a different sandwich or salad.
    ha... whelmed is good.

    I like it because it seemed to be less SYSCO foodsie. And I like a place that will cook burgers rare-ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhops View Post
    And I like a place that will cook burgers rare-ish.
    As I guy who orders a steak by telling the waiter to walk the cow by a candle, you are just asking for problems when you order ground beef anything other than well done. If purchased ground, on average there are 7 cows in that burger, plus who knows how much bacteria is mixed into that ground beef.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downtownguy25 View Post
    As I guy who orders a steak by telling the waiter to walk the cow by a candle, you are just asking for problems when you order ground beef anything other than well done. If purchased ground, on average there are 7 cows in that burger, plus who knows how much bacteria is mixed into that ground beef.
    As a guy who eats a pinch of ground beef raw (with salt and pepper) while making hamburgers at the house, I ain't skurred. But I've definitely made some bad food decisions in my life. I guess the mixing of cows is bad?

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    For the record Stackhouse offers "pink" or "done".... it's not overwhelmingly rare.

    You can get bloody rare at 1&10 and the Balls on Midway.

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    ^ On the matter of good raw beef, anybody got a favorite Steak Tartare place in town? Don't mean to take this even further off topic but been trying to find some...
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    Quote Originally Posted by msutton View Post
    ^ On the matter of good raw beef, anybody got a favorite Steak Tartare place in town? Don't mean to take this even further off topic but been trying to find some...
    I remember having it at Kuby's once or twice and it was highly edible. I'm sure there is better quality stuff at fancier places.

    L'Ancestral perhaps?

    I know that St. Martins' has it as an appetizer.

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