Reply With Quotethe kinkstah has my vote. will he be singing "asshole from el paso" on his radio spots??
Kinky Friedman for Governor in 2K6?
So, what do ya think about his independent campagin?
Here's him, btw: http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/about.html
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^ All that needs is a cowboy hat and a sign that says: " Kinky Friedman (for Governor,) Why the hell not? "
the kinkstah has my vote. will he be singing "asshole from el paso" on his radio spots??
the dude abides.
Gotta smile at anyone who has "De-Wussification" as part of their platform.
TG2
Who is this guy?
"And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed."-"Farewell to Penn Station," New York Times Editorial, October 30, 1963
He's an author of several books, for one.
Celebrating the urban greatness of Texas: Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, El Paso and Fort Worth.
I'll most likely vote for him.
Ive already got his T Shirt and Im going to vote for him. Why the Hell Not?
Somethings ya just can't change.
Thats what people said about Arnold, 'Why the hell not?!' Not saying that hes a bad governor, but come on, think before you vote!Originally Posted by X Factor
"And we will probably be judged not by the monuments we build but by those we have destroyed."-"Farewell to Penn Station," New York Times Editorial, October 30, 1963
for an introduction to the off kilter genius that is the kinksta, read the last page of any texas monthly magazine of recent vintage. or buy one of his books, which are almost all mystery novels starring an amateur detective named kinky friedman. he recently published what he says will be his last novel.
the dude abides.
He's a singer/songwriter as well as an author of mystery novels. His non-PC ways are legendary. He's a self-described "Texas Jewboy" (I kid you not, that's the name of his old band!) who revels in rocking the boat. He could bring a large turnout to the Gubanatorial election... if the Repos keep fighting amongst themselves and the Demos continue their amazing string of failures, there's no telling what might happen. If a former pro wrestler and The Terminator can get elected governor, then in Kinky's words, Why The Hell Not?
Here's a bullet list of Kinkyisms from answers.com
* Took accordion lessons in Texas when about 11 years old, switched to the guitar a year later;
* Liked Jimmy Rogers, Slim Whitman, and Hank Williams;
* His family were not into country music -- they were more keen on the likes of Paul Robseon;
* If you want to get into country and western having a college education is not a good thing -- the only other musician that came to mind was Kris Kristofferson; the other factors that weren't typical was being Jewish and being upper middle-class;
* Was Bar-mitzvah-ed in Huston;
* The only thing cowboys and Jews have in common is that both wear their hats indoors;
* Is the oldest living Jew in Texas who doesn't own real estate
* Ran in Kerrville for justice of the peace. Came second; the guy who came third had hacked his collie to death just before the election;
* Writing a novel is much easier than writing a country music song;
* All major characters signed releases and if they don't like what Kinky writes about them they can take it up with his lawyer, Sonny Corleone;
* Elvis, Jesus and Coca-Cola was written in an unhappy time in Kinky Friedman's life and is better for that reason;
* His friend, Don Imus gave the story to Simon and Schuster;
* When you have a name like Kinky Friedman -- you may as well run with it;
* Actual name is Richard Kinky 'Big Dick' Friedman;
* Borneo is what the world should be. They have an amazing New Year's parade where there is a candle procession and no sound; their word for 'fishing' means 'visiting the fish';
* Got tattoo-ed in Borneo
* Joseph Heller thought "They Ain't Making Jews Like Jesus Anymore" was an important song;
* Molly Ivins said his work spread more joy than Ross Perot's ears;
* There are uncanny parallels between Kinky Friedman and Jesus: They're both Jewish. Both didn't marry, both never had a home to speak of, neither held down a job, both travelled round the countryside irritating people;
* Didn't realise he was a writer until he was 42
* The British tour has been succesful -- the people love cowboys and they don't even mind Jews too much;
* a lot of modern country and western is decaffeinated country music -- and has no emotional heritage
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
With a name like Kinky, how can we go wrong?
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
FWIW, I would encourage everyone to pick up this month's Texas Monthly and read about his candidacy. He talks a lot of schtik, but he is serious. He has some great ideas: one being - quit paying for high school athletics and let the corporations - Nike, Wilson - pick up the tab.
Those of you here old enough to vote, consider abstaining from the March Primary and sign his petition. He must get 45K signatures - of people who did not vote in either primary - in 60 days to get on the ballot. The Republicans and Perry have demonstrated their impotence ... it is time for a fresh idea.
As my boss said in July's Texas Monthly "Kinky wakes up intoxicated with his own fame."
Well, crazier things have happened -- like electing an Aggie.
Last edited by CEHughes; 29 August 2005 at 04:42 PM.
^ I'd like to see you do a better job. The fact that he is an Aggie has nothing to do with it, a Longhorn, Red Raider or a Bear would have the same outcome.
Somethings ya just can't change.
^A Longhorn, Red Raider or a Bear with no vision or ability to lead would produce the same outcome. I'm conconvinced my 2-year old son may have produced a better outcome. At least he knows how to get peoples' attention when he complains.
What a great Aggie he is
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^Excellent find!
Amazing how he always looks so fabulous.
Pappy O'Daniel was the first Aggie governor. However, the school was then called the Agricultural and Mechanic School of Texas. Wilbert Lee "Pappy" O'Daniel (1890-1969) had his own band. His musicians played music that was "hillbilly" before "country" was cool.
In 1939, before 60,000 Texans in UT's Longhorn Stadium, a chorus of 10,000 Texas school kids screamed the lyrics to the radio song Pappy had written: "Bee-yoo-ty-ful, bee-yoo-ty-ful Texas, where the bee-yoo-ty-ful bluebonnets grow ..."
Historians don't recall Pappy's years in the Governor's Mansion, followed by a half dozen years in the U.S. Senate, as bee-yoo-ty-ful. Much like our current Aggie governor Rick Perry, Pappy is regarded as a charlatan, a populist demagogue who promised much but delivered little. He ran on promises of cutting taxes and calling the Courts communist. Not much has changed in one hundred years.
^^ Glad to see you're still here, with your wonderfully alternative telling of history. However, for the benefit of any school kids writing their Texas History reports, I would suggest the Handbook of Texas as a slightly... shall we say, "more mainstream" view?
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
Pappy O'Daniel never went to A&M
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The Kinky Friedman campaign has started organizing locally and regionally with a series of Yahoo Groups. Fort Worth (Tarrant Co.) and Dallas each have their own group, then there's the "North Texas" group for the counties north of DFW, and the "North Central" group for us south-side folks. It'll be interesting to see if suburban counties like Collin and Rockwall stay in the same group as Grayson and Hunt -- I bet there are some adjustments. There are a lot of ways to split up 254 counties!
Kinky Gets Local!
http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/index.p...sk=view&id=143
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
Since I've thought about politics, I've thought Texas is the one place in America where an actionable political alternative to Republicans and Democratics would take hold. Maybe this is a start. What is Ross Perot up these days?
The fella is funny and has a lot of good quotes. But does he have any substantive plans?
DAGNABBIT!
As opposed to Perry, who is not even funny.
HA!
DAGNABBIT!
Actually, I thought Adios, Mofos! was freakin' hilarious. I can't wait for Perry to hit the comedy club circuit...
... because it'll mean he's not the governor any more.
I was getting out of the car just as they started talking about Proposition 2, aka the hate and fear amendment. Perry was announcing his support for the bill, because "I'm a Christian". (I'm a Christian myself, and I just don't see that it's the government's job to tell me who I can marry.) I can just imagine Kinky's reaction -- did someone make Christianity a requirement for the office of Governor while we weren't looking? "Sorry, Kinky, you can't run for Governor as a Jew. Care to convert?"
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
It's ridiculous how these guys have taken Christianity as their own. I can't believe that we are on the verge of writing discrimination into our constitution! Gay people pay the same taxes as everyone else, they should have the same rights.Actually, I thought Adios, Mofos! was freakin' hilarious. I can't wait for Perry to hit the comedy club circuit...
... because it'll mean he's not the governor any more.
I was getting out of the car just as they started talking about Proposition 2, aka the hate and fear amendment. Perry was announcing his support for the bill, because "I'm a Christian". (I'm a Christian myself, and I just don't see that it's the government's job to tell me who I can marry.) I can just imagine Kinky's reaction -- did someone make Christianity a requirement for the office of Governor while we weren't looking? "Sorry, Kinky, you can't run for Governor as a Jew. Care to convert?"
Here's an idea. Let's abolish state-sanctioned marriage all together. The state could recognize civil unions and leave he marrying to religious organizations. Then there could be no "assault" on marriage. If your church didn't want to perform same-sex marriages, they'd be well in their rights not to.
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I'm still waiting for the amendment to keep Texas women from wearing gold and pearls, as the Bible directs...
What's next? Men wanting to legally marry their dogs?
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So, how do you know when you are getting close to College Station? When you get out of the car to take a piss, the sheep back up to the fence.
Was Perry an A&M CT or shop teacher ( I mean yell leader)?
And of course, we all know that G_d hates shrimp.
Is the consumption of shellfish condemned in the New Testament?
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Actually, Jesus was rather blunt on this point. While the religious leaders of the time stood on ritual -- what you can't do on the Sabboth, what you can and can't eat and when, Jesus basically told them they were full of it. It's not what goes in your mouth that defiles you, it's what comes out of your mouth. I'm not defiled by my love of bacon -- and Gov. Perry can't hide behind his faith.
Back to a previous point:
A friend of mine ran for the Texas House in the mid-'90s on the Libertarian ticket. One of the planks of his campaign was that the state should ban same-sex marriage. I pointed out to him that this government-imposed restriction on what free citizens may or may not do goes contrary to the Libertarian principle that government should leave people alone. My friend thought about this for a while, and came up with pretty much the same idea as ksig121: the state shouldn't be in the "marriage" business in the first place. However, to comply with his conservative religious views, his official plank became "To the extent that government is involved in marriage, it should not sanction same-sex marriage". Still contrary to my views, but at least my friend was honest and consistent. If I'd been in his district, I'd have voted for him.
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
But Jesus condemned homosexuality several times. Look it up.
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I need to -- I managed to read through Leviticus, but didn't make it to the second half of the Book. However, aren't most of the condemnations actually in the letters of the apostles?
But in any case, this ain't Iraq, where the Koran is "a source of law" under the new Constitution. While the Founding Fathers drew inspiration from their faith, the Christan Bible is not the basis for our laws. For some people, every word of the Bible is immutable law directly from God and must be obeyed... by them. For others, the Koran occupies a similar role -- even more so, because the Koran goes into excruciating detail (which foot must enter the bathroom first, etc). The Jewish faith includes sects whose rules limit the number of steps they can take on the Sabbath -- and others with a much looser interpretation. I'm sure that other faiths I'm not as familiar with -- Hinduism, Buddhism, Rastafarianism -- have their own rules for personal holiness.
But your personal holiness is not my law! And if I am true to my own faith, then someone else's lack of perceived "holiness" is not a threat to mine. As bearers of the Gospel, we Christians are instructed to guide others to Christ... but He also told us that if we're not wanted, we should shake off the dust of the town and move on (I can't find the verse, though). We are *not* instructed to force others to our point of view -- because a conversion under duress is a false conversion. Worse still, such attempts only cause us to be dismissed as intolerant kooks, driving the lost even further from salvation.
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
I was going to vote against this until I saw what these people did to Sheryl Swoopes.
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I'm not even going to respond to most of this regarding Christianity. Frankly, and unfortunately, I think most people have not come in contact with unadulterated Christianity. Its very sad too, but very understandable as well. Unadulterated Christianity is not what most people really want. It's very desire is for the lost of this world and how to they may minister with the love that can only come from knowing Christ. It also requires the person to be transparent as well. They have to be willing to admit their faults and daily admit them to God, because without being totally transparent about our sins, it blocks the power of the holy spirit to truly work magnificent feats through our lives.
I say that to say this: People have to make their decisions up in their own minds. Frankly the passing or failing of this amendment says nothing of society, because frankly if people were as transparent as the ought to be, they would realize we are all worthy of death, which the Bible says is the penalty for our sins. My purpose, despite the outcome, should be to do God's will.
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I wonder if someone may know the answer: Is marraige in this nation considered a right or a previledge given to us? Is this about money? Are we voting on this because the gay lobby group is much larger than for polygamy or brother-n-sister marriage lobby groups?
Listen to the Dividing Line, Pirate Christian Radio, CARM, White Horse Inn and RTS University the most nowadays.....
A sin is a sin according to the bible and God judges--I'm not saying homosexuality is a sin or is not a sin. But, I'm saying that if this was truly about the sanctity of marriage then and divorced heterosexual couples should also be banned from marriage.
This thread now may be getting dangerously close to getting closed....
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
You had to see it coming with the word "kinky" in the thread title
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No, this is about rights. Period. When a heterosexual couple gets married, they automatically have over 1000 new rights granted to them simply because they are married. This includes next-of-kin rights, rights to property, etc. These are given automatically, whether you are Britney Spears who was married for 40 hours or Nancy and Ronald Reagan.
Same-sex couples can obtain some of those rights. There is much hassle and expense associated with it. You have to get separate powers of attorney drawn up for medical reasons, estate matters, child custody, etc. and there is still no guarantee that these won't be challenged by your partner's family.
There are instances where two people have been partnered for 20 years where one get sick or dies and their family (who they haven't seen or heard from in over 20 years) swoops in and takes over everything regardless of the wishes of the sick or deceased. That's not right.
GLBT people pay the same taxes as everyone else, they should be afforded the same rights. This proposition goes much farther than simply defining marriage as the union between one man and one woman. It also goes on to ban any such state recognition of any union similar to marriage. I don't think that many people in the GLBT commnity care too much about what you call it. The most important thing is to have those same rights.
I would remind you that the GLBT community did not push this issue. The "religious" right pushed this issue. They are heads and shoulders better funded than the GLBT lobby.
As a Christian, it offends me that such hateful measures are being carried out in Jesus' name. Jesus makes no mention on same-sex marriage in the Bible, but he has a lot to say about divorce. I don't see these right wing fanatics scrambling to ban divorce.
It's sad that we can't get our schools funded, but we can waste time and energy on this.
Oops, thanks for the warning... I really did intend to keep this a Kinky Friedman thread, not a Prop 2 thread. I'll take back the daringly witty and insightful reply I was about to post.
Although, it must be noted that we're all getting along quite well, considering the inflammatory nature of the off-topic diversion!
Back to the original topic: has anyone ordered their Signed, First Edition Kinky Friedman Talking Action Figure yet? It's yours if you donate $100 to the campaign. I don't think I'll get one, myself -- I signed up to donate an amount per month that will total over $100, but I think this gift is for lump-sum donations.
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As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
Bingo!Are we voting on this because the gay lobby group is much larger than for polygamy or brother-n-sister marriage lobby groups?
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With friends like these ...
When the Klan is on your side, you know you're on the right track.
The sheeted ones have gotten permission to stage a rally in Austin in support of the constitutional amendment to outlaw same-sex marriage.
The KKK's support is giving state Rep. Warren Chisum an apoplectic fit.
"I hate to say that we don't need friends like that, but we don't need friends like that," said Chisum, a Pampa Republican spearheading the amendment.
I, for one, sure hope the rally includes a burning cross. There's nothing quite so heart-warming as a burning cross.
Now if only we could get the neo-Nazis and the Taliban to help out ...
I wonder if Prussian Blue will perform.The sheeted ones have gotten permission to stage a rally in Austin in support of the constitutional amendment to outlaw same-sex marriage.
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That answer it all probably.
Bingo!
Listen to the Dividing Line, Pirate Christian Radio, CARM, White Horse Inn and RTS University the most nowadays.....
Maybe a coverband called Prussian theft, starring the old grey wolf.
Listen to the Dividing Line, Pirate Christian Radio, CARM, White Horse Inn and RTS University the most nowadays.....
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