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#42
He's not bad enough for us to come up with 101 reasons.![]()
Now that football season is here they have all forgiven him who hate him.
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Jerry Jones thinks he's JR Ewing. But Jerry is not a native and he's not funny.
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In hopes that we *will* get to #1, I'll call this one #42-A.Originally Posted by warlock55
Reason #42-A: He (via his cronies) tells the Cotton Bowl folks that he won't try to snatch the Texas/OU game, but tells Arlington voters that the new stadium would be a perfect place to move the aforementioned game.
Why Arlington would care is beyond me. Great, now the $300 million stadium will get used 9 times a year instead of 8? BFD.
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
#41 He owns a lot of real estate up north and is supporting sprawl.
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
#40 He is a "Get Rich Quick" kind of guy.
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
#39 He let Emmitt Smith leave citing that he was too expensive to re-sign. Maybe so, but he could have used all the extra money that Emmitt made for him during the "Chase for the Record" or "Watch Emmitt make History" marketing campaigns. Emmitt delivered and Jerry didn't.
Plus, Emmitt is still better than Eddie George and Troy Hambrick fat a**
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
^ # 38 Man I really hate Jerry Jones
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
#37 By convincing Arlington voters to spend the money on a stadium, integrating Arlington into a regional passenger rail system is doomed.
1) Most likely there will not be any public money for Arlington to contribute since this "partenership" with the Cowboys will result in city revenue increases barely able to meet the city's share. Arlington should include a pillory with the stadium for public officials who agreed to the terms of this "partenership."
2) Citizens and businesses in Arlington who end up depending on the regular flood of sports fan will remained convinced that commuter trains will hurt business by providing a easy way out of the city after the game.
WFAA.com says Smiley Jones is gonna be on NIGHTLINE tonight after the game...the poor man will have to stay up so late he might get bags under his eyes.
#36 He brought in Drew Bledsoe. Trade one old guy in for another.
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
#35, He won't fire Parcells. As much as I hate losing, its time to start over with a new crop and build. Parcells simply refuses to do this. You have some young potential superstars in Dallas. Why not build on it. I swear I enjoyed the tough, hustling group that Campo put out there more than last season.
^ edit by gc....we are counting down to #1 rantanamo sheesh...follow the rules!
And I am starting to see your point too.
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
#34 In 1996, Jerry Jones financed DART pullout elections in five suburbs.
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Did we run out of reasons?
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
No, I think it just got too easy. But I'd be happy to start again.Originally Posted by R. Mbala
#33: He made poor Ms. Maria spend her last days in a house marked for demolition.
Family makes way for stadium
08:41 AM CST on Tuesday, February 7, 2006
By JEFF MOSIER / The Dallas Morning News
ARLINGTON – Maria Villarreal planned to move recently to make way for construction of the new Dallas Cowboys stadium.
Instead, the 82-year-old lived her last days in the house where she raised a dozen children and stepchildren from the early 1960s to her death two weeks ago. Some of her adult children, who had been staying with her, moved from the house on Vine Street last week – marking both a beginning and an end.
The Villarreals were the last family to move from the small neighborhood that will be part of the footprint of the stadium, where dirt work will begin in about a month and the Cowboys will eventually play.
"All my memories of growing up are from that house," said son Troy Villarreal, 36. "Not only is that now gone, but my mother is gone, too."
A few days after her death, the hearse carrying Mrs. Villarreal's body drove down Vine Street as a final farewell to a once-familiar neighborhood that has become a ghost town.
The family's departure marks the latest stage in the development of the Cowboys' 75,000-seat retractable-roof dome, scheduled to open in 2009. Tarrant County officials, who are demolishing houses, apartments and businesses that will be in the footprint of the stadium, are hoping to finish the teardowns by the end of February.
More than 75 percent of the houses and more than 60 percent of the apartment units have been demolished.
The number of houses and apartments demolished was not immediately available. Officials are assembling those figures for a report that will be released soon to the City Council.
$650 million stadium
When demolition is completed, Manhattan Construction Co., the general contractor on the $650 million stadium, will start earthmoving work.
The land where the stadium "bowl" will be was once a quiet, hidden neighborhood near Collins Street and Randol Mill Road. Now, it's a checkerboard of vacant lots and empty houses. Barricades discourage drivers from turning onto many of the streets, and front doors sometimes stand wide open at the remaining houses.
Stray pieces of lumber or pipe that missed the trip to the city landfill dot the empty lots.
Evelyn Wray, who lives in a house on Randol Mill Road, adjacent to the Villarreals' neighborhood, said she's nervous about having the vacant structures nearby. A second house on her property has been virtually gutted by vandals and by looters looking for building materials to salvage.
"My kids are scared for me to live here now," she said. "I keep my porch light on all the time."
Mrs. Wray, 72, hopes the light will be a signal to passers-by that someone still lives there.
But sometime this year, a county bulldozer will remove her home, too. Her houses and nearly 4 acres, bought by her family in the late '30s or early '40s, are just outside the stadium footprint area and not an immediate priority. She said her attorney and city negotiators are not close on the price.
"The next thing I hear will be 'That's a good offer' or 'Get out,' " Mrs. Wray said.
She's not sure which it'll be.
Eminent domain use
The City Council has frequently used eminent domain to acquire property for the stadium. Arlington officials said they have offered fair market value for the homes, while many residents, including Mrs. Wray, wanted to be paid for the commercial value of their property.
Mrs. Wray and the Villarreals are far from the last residents who will move this year to accommodate the stadium.
Roger Venables, Arlington's real estate manager, said his office would focus on purchasing businesses along Collins Street in the next 30 to 45 days. After that he will turn his attention to Stonegate Pines mobile home park on the eastern edge of the stadium site.
An employee at the management office declined to comment last week, but according to property records, there are more than 120 lots in the park.
Mr. Venables said he expects to have the rest of the land needed for the stadium and parking by the end of the year.
Jon Weist, Tarrant County Precinct 2 administrator, said his crews are demolishing structures as quickly as possible to clear the way for construction. Some apartment buildings have been torn down in as little as 20 minutes, though asbestos abatement and debris hauling make the task much more time-consuming.
The number of vacant buildings in the area has attracted a large police presence. The department has increased patrols, and officers have arrested several people who broke into empty houses, despite the bright yellow "No Trespassing" signs.
Mr. Villarreal said he often saw patrol cars cruising his neighborhood and shining lights into empty homes. But he still had his own run-in with looters.
One couple tried to steal deer sculptures from Mr. Villarreal's front yard. When he yelled at them, they drove away.
"I don't think they realized someone was still living here," he said.
Mr. Villarreal's family also struggled with phone, electricity and water problems because of the dismantling of local utilities.
Sporadic mail service
Mrs. Wray said her mail service has been sporadic, apparently because of the shrinking number of residents near her. Often, letters or bills have been returned to the senders or have simply disappeared.
"I had a bunch of mail that was lost in December," she said.
Mrs. Wray said she's bracing for utility problems and keeps candles on hand in case her power goes out. Despite the inconvenience, she said she would continue fighting for a good price, though she declined to reveal the city's offer or what amount would satisfy her.
Mr. Villarreal said he's glad to go. He'll miss his old neighborhood and house, but it's not the same as it was when he was growing up or even a year or two ago.
"My mom closed out the lights on this part of Arlington," he said.
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Here's the map. When I moved to DFW in 1986, I lived in one of the apartment complexes on Peach St.
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As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
gc...you need to scratch the bledsoe reason #36. He actually was great this year. Maybe replace it with a terrible OL.
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You are exactly correct.gc...you need to scratch the bledsoe reason #36. He actually was great this year. Maybe replace it with a terrible OL.
Originally Posted by mikedsjr
Good point. O-line....was not good at all.
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
"Did you like them three Super Bowls? I hope you did. I hope you did very much."
the dude abides.
that stadium site is still puzzling
i call him "the man of the hour, every hour ,on the hour"
#31, despite his lack of impromptu speaking ability, he never preps for a speech.
#30 He has a smarmy feel to him, like he is scheming all the time.
When it's a well-known fact, the presence of a simile is unnecessary.Originally Posted by FoUTASportscaster
#29 JJones tells his lawyers to tell everyone the stadium design will remain confidential under the Texas Homeland Security Act; releasing them would disclose the stadium's vulnerability to terrorist attacks.
'Bidness' as usual for Jones
08:07 AM CDT on Thursday, May 10, 2007
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I don't hate Jerry Jones. Or didn't.
While others have delighted in bashing the Cowboys owner over the years, I have mostly been a neutral bystander.
But maybe it's time for me to rethink that position. This latest act of civic treachery is just too much.
What a weasel.
While the city of Dallas was still breathing a giddy sigh of relief that the Cotton Bowl had apparently been saved, Jerry was jumping on his jet to try and undo the deal.
What a weasel! Or did I say that already?
To briefly recap: Word broke last Thursday that Dallas officials were close to reaching a deal with Texas Tech and Oklahoma State universities to play at the Cotton Bowl during the State Fair.
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The news came as a huge boost for the city and its efforts to save the historic stadium and its economic benefits.
So does Mr. Jones celebrate a win-win for the city and for himself? Does he rejoice over the Cotton Bowl game's move to his spiffy new stadium and Dallas snagging a great new college matchup for its Cotton Bowl stadium?
Of course not. This is bidness, and that seems to be the only thing Mr. Jones understands.
Instead of being happy for the city, Mr. Jones loaded up a few cronies in his private jet and headed out to Lubbock on Monday to dangle his new megastadium under the nose of Texas Tech officials.
What gall. And what utter disregard for the city that happens to still be in his team's name.
Mr. Jones, you do remember that they are the Dallas Cowboys, right? Or have you come to think of them as simply Jerry's Cowboys?
I guess we're going to have to expand his job description to "socks and jocks and rocks." Who could imagine that the owner of the Dallas Cowboys would one day be throwing rocks at Dallas itself?
Just to be clear, this is about a lot more than civic pride or hurt feelings. A whole lot of taxpayer money is also at stake here.
When the Cotton Bowl game pulled out of the Cotton Bowl stadium earlier this year, the city was in the midst of a $50 million renovation of the stadium.
Very bad timing. And for a while it looked as if that might be $50 million flushed down a toilet bowl. The University of Texas and the University of Oklahoma also were making noises about pulling their storied rivalry out of the Cotton Bowl.
A lot of people were ready to throw up their hands and declare the Cotton Bowl dead.
But then came some great news. Three weeks ago, Mayor Laura Miller stood on the 50-yard line at the Cotton Bowl to announce that Texas and OU had extended their games there through 2015. Grambling and Prairie View A&M followed suit.
That was followed by last week's wonderful news that Texas Tech and OSU might join the great tradition of State Fair football in the Cotton Bowl. Things were really looking up for the city of Dallas.
Little did we know that Mr. Jones was getting busy trying to pull the rug out from under the deal with Texas Tech.
We shouldn't be surprised. Ms. Miller said this week that previous meddling by the Cowboys prompted her to meet personally with Mr. Jones' son, Stephen. She pleaded for the team not to undermine efforts to bring college games to the Cotton Bowl during the fair.
I guess Daddy's trip to Lubbock on Monday was the answer to that plea.
For his part, Mr. Jones is unapologetic. On Wednesday evening, the Cowboys released a statement saying:
"The purpose of bringing the country's finest new stadium to North Texas is to continue to provide a home for the very best college and high school football games to go along with the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL.
"The viability of a venue that can host these types of events creates business and economic benefits that will reach across Dallas, Arlington, Fort Worth and all of the neighboring communities."
How thoughtful of Mr. Jones to worry about all our "neighboring communities." But I'd still like to see a little more Dallas in the Dallas Cowboys.
I can't stand this man... Change the name of the team--there is nothing DALLAS about the Cowboys anymore.
Anyone have a good idea for a new name? DFW Cowboys? Arlington Boys?
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The hypocrisy on this board is phenomenal! We want to claim Jerry Jones as one of the Metropolis's billionaires and the Cowboys as one of our storied franchises (continuously one of the top 3 sports franchises + how many Super Bowl appearances/Super Bowl victories? = NFL/sports franchise history), yet, whenever Mr. Jones makes a move that enhances the Cowboys' brand, even at the City of Dallas' expense, the knives come out. Let's move forward! Does anyone here really think that any of Mr. Jones' efforts won't benefit the City of Dallas in the end?
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
thank you.Originally Posted by Mballar
“We shape our Cities, thereafter they shape us.”
#28 - Even though he's not a native, he's more powerful than all the mayors in the metroplex, combined.
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
Its not hypocritical to like the Cowboys and not like the owner. They were there before Jerry and will be there after.Originally Posted by Mballar
I'm taking from your post that we should put the Dallas Cowboys interests ahead of the City of Dallas. I'm a huge football fan, but no. Never. Sorry.
What exactly is Jerry doing for Dallas? We had to pay the vast majority of the municipal money to be a part of his Superbowl bid. Instead of negotiating with the City of Dallas after County negotiations broke down, he ran to Arlington. The only thing he's done for Dallas is hire a great organization for about 6 years. He's a suburban developer. He's part of the oil lobby. I don't like him. I have no reason to. I don't see why we have to move on when the thread is about why we don't like him. Sorry, don't like him.
and #28 is just weird, as most mayors really don't have much power. Just figure heads.
Ya, I'll always be pissed off that JJones didnt try harder to get the Cowboys back in Dallas.Originally Posted by rantanamo
RobertB raises his handOriginally Posted by Mballar
As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals... Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake. - B. Obama 1/20/09
sorry man, but jerry's efforts are just for jerry. and no one else. selfishness never does anyone any good.Originally Posted by Mballar
Dallas will benefit from a Superbowl in Arlington.
Dallas uber alles
In the end, I believe building the stadium in Arlington will force the Fair Park Cotton Bowl to become a truely competitive venue during 80% of the year.Originally Posted by Mballar
In a fight between JJones and T. Boone Pickens, my money is on T.BP, and as long as he likes OSU playing TTech at the Texas State Fair, the increasingly important game will be staged in the Cotton Bowl.
Until the Cotton Bowl is modified for the Olympics (...that daydream again), the stadium in Arlington will always be a more impressive venue, but the Texas State Fair atmosphere will always more than make up the difference.
So no, I do not really think JJones approaching TTech to play a game in Arlington will not benefit Dallas, but his timing sucks!
Huh? What are you talking about? It does Jerry PLENTY of good.Originally Posted by UrbanLandscape
Yes, I've heard he takes care of several women.
I'm surprised we're not hearing about Arkansas playing there. I thought for sure he'd try to get a UT-Arkie matchup or a Arki-OU matchup. If being a Hog is not listed in this post, ad that, LOL. Sorry Hogs, I was just kidding.
I think this is where we have a fundamental difference of opinion, and where City of Dallas & County messed up. You seem to suggest through your statement that Jerry was under some mandate or other obligation to locate his new stadium in Dallas. :2lol: If that's true, why would you think something like that?Originally Posted by rantanamo
Additionally, it was very clear, for a number of years (at least since then Arlington Mayor Elsie Odom announced his city's interest in the team), that Jones was considering Arlington as a place to build the stadium. The City of Dallas had plenty of notice that there was going to be competition for this stadium, and that the City was going to have to put together an incentive package to get Jones to build in the city limits. That's why former Mayor Kirk was talking to Jones every chance he could, over a period of years, about bringing the team to Dallas. He (Kirk) realized that the stadium wasn't going to be a slam dunk for Dallas, and he tried to do what he could to get Jones to give Dallas the "first shot" at the stadium.
Jerry knew he needed that stadium by 2009 for BCS Bowl consideration (his son & Cotton Bowl Board Member Stephen Jones probably told him that :2lol: ). For his stadium to be completed in 2009, it was MANDATORY that it be voted on in November, 2004. The recent departure of the Cotton Bowl Classic to Jerry's new stadium shows us that Jerry planned, and continues to plan well ahead. . .the City of Dallas/Laura Miller/Dallas County Commissioner Margaret Keliher did not.
By the way, the City of Dallas paid a "vast majority of the municipal money to be part of [a regional] bid," because the City of Dallas performed a cost-benefit analysis, and determined that the City of Dallas would receive the "vast majority" of benefit from the Super Bowl. Jerry didn't hold a gun to our head or anything. As a matter of fact, we had the leverage in that situation, but we would only have been leveraging against ourselves.
Last edited by Mballar; 13 May 2007 at 01:02 PM.
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
Reason #27: Dallas can't keep up with the Joneses!
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
No.
Dallas was asked to pay this amount. Dallas, then performed a cost benefit analysis to determine if they should and what they should demand to justify this cost. They demanded, and local media jumped on them for it. That was the gun and the bid committee knew it. Dallas would have been blamed as the bid would have easily lost without them allowing the NFL some municipal controls for certain events and amenities. It would have been a PR nightmare. Crafty business, by crafty businessmen.
Jerry wanted to be there for the 2011 Super Bowl because he knew the 2012 bidding might go international as well as having the competition of New York and the possible total renovations in Atlanta and Miami as well as other strong Superbowls becoming eligible for 2012. He went to the step to apparently even book the stadium for something in 2012 to create the must win in 2011 situation. He could not win in 2012 or 13 and he knows it. That was the hurry. A stadium has to be completed two years before it can host a Super bowl. The BCS comment is wrong because we don't know if the BCS will exist after that. Fox could dissolve it after this year as the new contract holders. Jerry would like this game.
The whole, was headed to Arlington is bull, clear and simple. That original stadium was designed for two places: Las Colinas or The Cedars. Notice the significantly scaled back nature of the development. The place was designed to be new urbanist and include light rail.. The current site reaks of last minute move. Where did all the talk of museums, hotels, shopping plaza all at a plaza of one endzone where patrons could see onto the field? Jones would not have bothered with months of negotiations for these two sites if there was no intention to build there. Jerry took what he could get in time, plain and simple. Compared to what he was negotiating with Irving and Dallas County, he got little in land, little in infrastructure and little in municipal monies.
I guess you think I'm angry the stadium is not in Dallas, because of some love for the Cowboys or Dallas. I love Dallas, but I sincerely think this is a missed opportunity for all involved. The same way the TMS fastbreak to killed boundless motorsports park was a missed opportunity. The same way the IRL and CCWS continue to stay split. Instead of showing the world greatness, we end up with the short path again showing that we can spread out further than you and give the world a big parking lot. No vision.
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