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    Quote Originally Posted by tamtagon View Post
    So, like, that map lists almost 3,000 dwellings! Is Irving still dry?
    No; beer and wine may be sold in grocery and convenience stores within the city limits.

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    And, lucky for those guys in the district represented on the map, there are a ton of liquor stores right off of NW highway just off to the East where the city of Dallas starts

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    Crazy!!!! That map lists almost 3,000 dwellings, but like, um, doesn't note all of which are propose, approved, under construction...

    The message is clear, though, Las Colinas is finally evolving into what greater Dallas needs more than anything, the next Uptown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homeworld1031tx View Post
    And, lucky for those guys in the district represented on the map, there are a ton of liquor stores right off of NW highway just off to the East where the city of Dallas starts
    Yup. And of course restaurants can serve mixed drinks.

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    Has additional retail opened up on the Alta side of the lake? When I lived there it was severely lacking but I am hoping more comes with the building boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTroyMathis View Post
    Thanks, that's the one. It's a little easier to tell today as they've painter part of the building. I just couldn't find it on the Irving COC site.

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    There are 2 more mixed-use projects that will go before planning and zoning in the next few weeks... AMLI is looking to develop nearly 16 acres across from Alta Lakeshore with apartments and townhomes (NE corner of Las Colinas Blvd and Lake Carolyn Pkwy)- and down on the corner of O'Conner and Lake Carolyn a company called Catalyst Development is proposing to develop 10 acres of land (right in front of the Orange Line) with apartments, retail and office. I did a little looking at Catalyst Development and it turns out the President was once the President for ICON that had planned a large development on this same tract years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpepping View Post
    Has additional retail opened up on the Alta side of the lake? When I lived there it was severely lacking but I am hoping more comes with the building boom.
    No there still isn't anything which, I find really to be really pathetic. That side of the lake is going to be so great if they can fill it all with the same density of housing as what's there (which I'm sure the city planners only intend to allow for)

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    Thank you for the Alexan information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelley USA View Post
    There are 2 more mixed-use projects that will go before planning and zoning in the next few weeks... AMLI is looking to develop nearly 16 acres across from Alta Lakeshore with apartments and townhomes (NE corner of Las Colinas Blvd and Lake Carolyn Pkwy)- and down on the corner of O'Conner and Lake Carolyn a company called Catalyst Development is proposing to develop 10 acres of land (right in front of the Orange Line) with apartments, retail and office. I did a little looking at Catalyst Development and it turns out the President was once the President for ICON that had planned a large development on this same tract years ago.
    It's really exciting to see that the Urban Center will finally start getting filled in...in regards to the ICON/Catalyst connection, do you know if the development at O'Connor and Lake Carolyn will involve a similar looking tower as ICON's original rendering showed? will it involve a tower at all? Please tell me it involves a tower...
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    Yes, does anyone know if it involves a high rise? A high rise would break the stagnant skyline of LC if approved.

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    I live at the the Grand Treviso on Las Colinas Blvd and I am much happier than what I thought I'd ever be. The relaxed lifestyle here is awesome... I find myself walking around the lake and along the canals frequently and I even have a road and a mountain bike now. I just wish there were more dining options. I'm on the 10th floor overlooking the lake side so I have a view of several of the projects that you all have mentioned. I'll be sure to post photos soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan#1 View Post
    I live at the the Grand Treviso on Las Colinas Blvd and I am much happier than what I thought I'd ever be. The relaxed lifestyle here is awesome... I find myself walking around the lake and along the canals frequently and I even have a road and a mountain bike now. I just wish there were more dining options. I'm on the 10th floor overlooking the lake side so I have a view of several of the projects that you all have mentioned. I'll be sure to post photos soon.
    I live a block away from you and I know exactly what you mean. I thought I'd be in the LC for maybe 2 years and then back to Uptown. I just signed another lease and 3 years later I'm still here. It's become tougher for me to leave. I see great promise in the area and I know it's just a matter of time until we see some of these mixed-use developments get going. Apart from that though I just really love the area!

    As for the former ICON site, I don't know if a tower is included. I just read the zoning change on the Irving P&Z website. There might be a rendering somewhere but I haven't seen one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelley USA View Post
    I live a block away from you and I know exactly what you mean. I thought I'd be in the LC for maybe 2 years and then back to Uptown. I just signed another lease and 3 years later I'm still here. It's become tougher for me to leave. I see great promise in the area and I know it's just a matter of time until we see some of these mixed-use developments get going. Apart from that though I just really love the area!

    As for the former ICON site, I don't know if a tower is included. I just read the zoning change on the Irving P&Z website. There might be a rendering somewhere but I haven't seen one...
    This is from 2007, but the "Las Colinas Station" rendering on page B6 I believe was the original rendering for ICON for the corner O'Connor and Lake Carolyn. Also, does anyone know if the "North Shore" development across from the Convention Center on page B4 is still relevant, or is that the development that keeps running into problems with the city?
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    You can see the rendering in the Agenda Packet for the site across from the station, the last zoning item. http://www.ci.irving.tx.us/city-secr...a%20packet.pdf

    Not sure how long this link will work though.

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    Cool nice find! Those images start at about page 160. The renderings look good to me as far as typical multifamily urban units go. This one seems to have a bit more glass than normal, which I like. I didn't take too close of a look at the actual site layout though

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    I love the pocket park in front of the condos! Is this development approved or on-hold?

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    I received a newsletter from the HOA today stating that there are 6 projects in the works in the area and that 5 of them are residential. Just an FYI

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    Here is a good link to those 6 projects: http://irvingtod.com/current-tod-projects/

    The IrvingTOD.com site has everything from places to eat in the area, current and future developments, as well as blog feed of construction updates. Hope this helps!

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    Came across some more info for Water Street today... Looks like they have hired Retail Street Advisors to handle retail leasing. They posted a site plan yesterday so the info is brand new.

    http://retailstreetadvisors.com/individual/water_street

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    Great find here is all the renderings posted as well.
















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    The pink spots are restaurants with the blue spots as regular retail. Of course you can see the residential along the edges and the empty plot BLOCK A at the northwest corner. Perfect for a future phase, I imagine it could become a office tower if there is enough demand.

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    Lol @ all of the office space numbers being thrown around in the Irving TOD page. That is the last thing we need there. Just build more residential and for the love of god add some retail.

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    Ah, good 'ole Google Sketchup.

    For those of you who frequent Google Earth, I've done most of Stemmons and the Central Expressway, Williams Tower in LC, Granite Park in Frisco, and some along the Tollway. It's quite fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyeagle05 View Post
    The divided six-lane O'Connor Blvd isn't exactly conducive to the posted 30 mph speed limit so it's good to see the eastbound side reduced to two lanes with new on-street parking. The pedestrian islands between Water Street and Williams Square are a plus too. Considering the proximity to the Las Colinas Urban Center DART station, I'd imagine with this development, and the dozen others surrounding it, will increase the number of cyclists in the area so it's too bad those angled on-street parking spots aren't using the "back-in/head-out design." The parking spots surrounding the buildings inside the development wouldn't have a need for cyclist visibility, but it will on O'Connor Blvd.

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    This is what they need around the AAC. I like it.
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    As promised, I have a photo to share of the construction site for the first set of apartments on the lake. The site is towards the center left.


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    Any renderings of this Alexan development?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NThomas View Post
    Considering the proximity to the Las Colinas Urban Center DART station, I'd imagine with this development, and the dozen others surrounding it, will increase the number of cyclists in the area so it's too bad those angled on-street parking spots aren't using the "back-in/head-out design."
    Reverse-angle parking was proposed in the original development but not embraced by the City (no good examples in TX, unlike now with South Congress in Austin among others) and disliked by the developer (thought people needed to park looking at the stores), so it defaulted to front-in. I had hoped the issue would be revisited with the renewed development, but perhaps not. Luckily, it is easy enough to change over when the time comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Traffic Guy View Post
    Reverse-angle parking was proposed in the original development but not embraced by the City (no good examples in TX, unlike now with South Congress in Austin among others) and disliked by the developer (thought people needed to park looking at the stores), so it defaulted to front-in. I had hoped the issue would be revisited with the renewed development, but perhaps not. Luckily, it is easy enough to change over when the time comes.
    I witnessed the reverse angle parking when I was down in Austin on South Congress a few months ago which inspired me to look up why it was done that way. I agree reverse seems to be the better option but its going to take a awhile to convince most suburban developers to do anything that's safer overall for the urban environment we are trying to build around here. Most developers in this country let alone in North Texas are used to developing everything around the car so when you start trying to encourage them to rethink things for the urban environment they get this puzzled look on their face and just build it the way they are used to.

    Reversed parking just sounds like its making things more difficult for parking to most people even though its not. They like the instant front park method cause its easy to arrive they forget about how bad it is to backup when they leave and how many times i'm sure another car backing out of a space has almost hit them. No one wants to be the first in things like this. It will take a development like the West Village or a neighborhood like Bishop Arts to convince North Texas drivers and the developers to get used to and adopt the reverse parking model. Who wants to volunteer to be the first in North Texas?

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    The Dragon Boat Festival on Lake Carolyn will take place on Sunday, May 20th.

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    Compared to this earlier master plan, it seems the new one has quite a drastic reduction in retail/restaurant space. Is it just me, or is the hotel completely out of the new plans?

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    Anyone have any idea what's going in behind In-N-Out Burger at Royal and MacArthur?

    The City of Irving hasn't updated their new development map since November...
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    Two developers buy Las Colinas building site
    By STEVE BROWN Real Estate Editor
    Published: 17 July 2012 06:21 AM
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    One of the largest development sites in Las Colinas along the new DART light rail line has been purchased by a Chicago apartment builder.

    Amli Residential bought the almost 9-acre tract on Lake Carolyn Parkway from Park Cities Bank.

    The vacant property also fronts on Riverside Drive and is near DART's Las Colinas Urban Center station.

    Park Cities bank foreclosed on 16.8 acres at that location last year when the previous owners – a development partnership – defaulted on more than $6.7 million in debts.

    The property had at one time been planned for a high-rise development.

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    The developer plans to build 479 apartments on the property at Lake Carolyn and California Crossing.

    At the other end of the big block on about 7 acres, builder In Town Homes will construct a townhouse community at Colorado Drive.

    "They will be brining the first brownstone townhome project to the Urban Center," Stewart said.

    In Town Homes is already building a 2-block home community in downtown Dallas near the Farmers Market.

    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwcre8tive View Post
    They will be brining the first brownstone townhome project to the Urban Center," Stewart said.
    It's about time! The brownstone apartment/condo configuration is perfect for Urban Center residential!

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    Awesome!!! Here comes the developments around the Orange Line we've been waiting for...bring on more!!! Let's get a new highrise in Las Colinas!!!
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    Water Street keeps showing signs of life... Another new video was just posted just 6 days ago. The overall design has changed slightly- I actually like this one better! Even the design of the apartments has changed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelley USA View Post
    Water Street keeps showing signs of life... Another new video was just posted just 6 days ago. The overall design has changed slightly- I actually like this one better! Even the design of the apartments has changed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRHWMBuYYRw
    Thank you for this... I had just asked about this on the Orange Line thread. And I agree... this does look better than the last. It looks like they took out that funky valet loop that was by the water and made it more pedestrian oriented. Very nice. Still no sign of the once envisioned hotel... seems that may be gone. And I'm still a little bummed the original parking garages have been scrapped in favor of a parking lot along O'conner. Parking lots don't go over well in Las Colinas historically.

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    Pathetic showing from Irving City Counsel last night...
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...ion=reregister

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    More news on Water Street development today. City has agreed to proposal and they should be breaking ground early next year. Anybody have the detail behind this? I don't have subscription, and am unable to read full article.
    http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/pr...own-water.html

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    I wasn't able to read the full article, but could access the first page... From what I read, the project will include 50,000 sq ft of retail which will be primarily all restaurant space (maybe some small retail). They want to create a restaurant district. Let me just say that this is not a sure thing. The article says things like "IF the project moves forward"... If it does happen to move forward I think ground breaking is at least a year away at best. The article mentions that no financing is in place right now either. There are a couple of zoning change signs on the property, and this should go before council on Sept 6th.

    Who knows... I guess I should be happy that they're still working on something- but a bit disappointed to see this go from 150,000 sq ft of retail- to 80,000 and now down to 50,000... Everyone knows this area is in desperate need of SOMETHING, so if we can get this going maybe it'll be the catalyst for some bigger and better mixed-use developments!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelley USA View Post
    I wasn't able to read the full article, but could access the first page... From what I read, the project will include 50,000 sq ft of retail which will be primarily all restaurant space (maybe some small retail). They want to create a restaurant district. Let me just say that this is not a sure thing. The article says things like "IF the project moves forward"... If it does happen to move forward I think ground breaking is at least a year away at best. The article mentions that no financing is in place right now either. There are a couple of zoning change signs on the property, and this should go before council on Sept 6th.

    Who knows... I guess I should be happy that they're still working on something- but a bit disappointed to see this go from 150,000 sq ft of retail- to 80,000 and now down to 50,000... Everyone knows this area is in desperate need of SOMETHING, so if we can get this going maybe it'll be the catalyst for some bigger and better mixed-use developments!
    Agreed... I just hate to see such a prime spot (probably the best in the Urban Center) without the density it deserves. I agree their initial design was way overly optimistic in it's retail aspirations, but replacing that with a parking lot along O'conner is not good. There shouldn't be ANY single level parking lots within the Urban Center.
    With the loss of the hotel aspect, I still think there is enough residential demand here to have replaced it with apartments.. Everything in this area is over 97% occupancy with very high rents. This would be a money maker and I'd think Gables would realize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muncien View Post
    Agreed... I just hate to see such a prime spot (probably the best in the Urban Center) without the density it deserves. I agree their initial design was way overly optimistic in it's retail aspirations, but replacing that with a parking lot along O'conner is not good. There shouldn't be ANY single level parking lots within the Urban Center.
    With the loss of the hotel aspect, I still think there is enough residential demand here to have replaced it with apartments.. Everything in this area is over 97% occupancy with very high rents. This would be a money maker and I'd think Gables would realize that.
    I've always seen this area as the chicken or the egg dilema. Since moving to Dallas in 1996 I've never understood what justified high rent in Las Colinas. Still don't. This could help.

    I agree... If they build this out to be a true hot spot approaching something like the Legacy area then I can start to see justification for higher rent.

    My main desire is to see the developments like this spark more use of the people mover tho... I love it... sad to see it have no greater purpose. :-(

    I love the waterfront portion of the plan and the open spaces in the middle. The canopies really add some character to the design as well. Hope those make it into reality.
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    Water Street passed City Council tonight with acclaim and high expectations. I think Gables is right in describing this level of retail/restaurant as a proof of the market, the next steps can be larger (e.g., southeast corner of O'Connor / Las Colinas Blvd).

    ETA: Also passed the TDI multifamily site on the northwest corner of Las Colinas Blvd and Northwest Highway. Just MF though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelley USA View Post
    From DMN...

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/commu...ion=reregister

    Just as multiple economic downturns dampened decades-long hopes that the Las Colinas Urban Center would grow into a bustling downtown, the latest recession stalled earlier plans for Water Street. ... The Urban Center has a daily population of more than 30,000 people. More than 20,000 of them are office workers, who routinely complain that there aren’t enough easily accessible places to eat near their workplaces.
    Hopefully the development will really advance the bustling downtown goal of the LC Urban Center. With Light Rail finally contributing to the connectivity of three of the region's biggest employment centers, Downtown Dallas, Stemmons/Medical Center and LC Urban Center, the pedestrian component of a bustling downtown will allow Sunbelt urban pioneers a pretty good array of residential settings.

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    I like this plan much better than the last. I see they got rid of the parking lot fronting O'conner. Good move... I noticed there's still no hotel, and it seems they moved the people mover station much closer to Las Colinas blvd (if that's what I think that is).

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    Here's another small article in the DBJ...

    http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/ne...-approval.html

    The new design looks nice. 1) I pray this actually moves forward! 2) If it does, I'm very curious to see what level and what type of retailers and restaurants they can attract.

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    Irving will be the site of a $105 million proton therapy cancer treatment complex to be built and operated by Baylor Health Care System, Texas Oncology and McKesson Specialty Health, the companies announced today.
    Wow, so we're getting two of these facilities? Nice! Also, I'm glad to see that this one is being built in an area right next to my parents house that hasn't seen development in years. This facility is distinctly different from the one of the same type that was just announced and is posted in the Parkland thread. Can't wait to see renderings. The ONLY downside of this, to me, is that it'll block a KILLER view of Las Colinas and Downtown Dallas that is offered by the very slight elevation advantage that the lot this is to be built on offers. Really, someone with a good camera should go out there with a ladder and snap a few pictures.


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    Just thought I would post some news and notes on Las Colinas...

    - A new 7-11 is currently under construction on the corner of Royal and Riverside (near La Vallita and the new Amli apartment complex).
    - Restaurant Tilted Kilt has filed for an alcohol license near the corner of Royal and MacArthur. I'm not sure if they are looking at going into the development already under construction, or if this will be a new building. My thought is that they'll build on the vacant parcel closest to the NYLO Hotel. This is the same development that Margarita Ranch will locate to from Mockingbird Station.
    - Twin Peaks has filed for an alcohol license for the former Luby's location on 635 (near Razzoo's). Clearly a major remodel will be in order!

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