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    Knox-Henderson / Restoration Hardware Hotel

    ok, so this has not been released to the public- but a very large swing will be happening soon on Knox-Henderson. from someone who works at the store- the company has bought several parcels of land on Henderson that will be razed and developed as a hotel/mixed use/Restoration Hardware Gallery store. This will be a multi-story store with a rooftop terrace. The parcels will sadly include several respected and well known restaurants that hopefully will resurface elsewhere. This from a VERY reliable source who's part of the company. The size and scope of the project, other tenants and hotel flag I know nothing about. The time frame will be about 18 to 24 months. It represents quite a shift and major deal changer for the East side of 75. Also, Basset Furniture will be moving onto the Knox/McKinney corner as well as I.O. Metro which shuttered an Alpha Rd. location.

    If I learn about anything else, I will add to this post.

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    Pretty cool info... I guess we'll have to wait and see if this plays out- but if anyone has seen the new Restoration Hardware at Willow Bend Mall it's quite impressive (also 2 stories)!!

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    Hotel, mixed-use etc..that would seem to take more land than the former single-family home lots going down Henderson...

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    it could...hopefully we get to hear a press release with renderings soon.

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    Have the nimby brokers still managed to keep building heights maxed out at ~4 stories?

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    I'm sure Andres is cashing out on what they've been holding onto but I can't imagine a hotel fits in the area. I can see maybe some of restaurants/bars getting moved out by this if true but there will still be a majority of what is still on Henderson remain.

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    What's the source for this (an article, or a conversation you had)? I've heard about the concept, but on a Henderson location...

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    ^ this hotel/Restoration Hardware story has been previously reported in this thread:http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/sh...ation+hardware. please use the search feature to ensure there are not duplicates of the same topic. my source is one of the top store personnel at the Resto store on Knox.

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    threads merged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersatz View Post
    Dallas has been chosen for the launch of a new concept Restoration Hardware superstore combined with a new luxury concept boutique hotel creation by former CEO and largest shareholder, Gary Friedman.

    Upon his resignation after a sex scandal with a company employee just a few months ago, the company said Mr. Friedman, who is the company’s largest individual shareholder, would be starting a new “incubator” company with ties to Restoration Hardware. It said he would be the nonexecutive chairman emeritus and continue in an “exclusive advisory role, serving as creator and curator for Restoration Hardware with a focus on strategy, creative, and design direction.”

    The statement also said that Mr. Friedman’s new business “will be created to develop new lines of business, including apparel, accessories, footwear and jewelry, many of which will be complementary to the company’s new product development strategy.”

    The new store and the first of what is to be a new chain of high end hotels featuring the design talents of Gary Friedman, utilizing entire product lines from Restoration Hardware in a new and real world way. The rumored location will be on a combination triangle lot framed by Fitzhugh Avenue, Bennett Avenue and Mission Street with a possible annexation of a small section of Homer Street.
    Guess that "Obama economy" ain't doing so bad, huh?

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    If this is true, sure seems like an odd location for the launch of a new high profile concept. If they really want to make a splash- taking one of the vacant parcels in West Village seems like a better option. That area could use a hotel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smudoode View Post
    Guess that "Obama economy" ain't doing so bad, huh?
    You are too funny.

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    Interesting news on the location of Fitz... I heard it was on Henderson closer to Capitol.

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    Or now that I think about it, this would be pretty sweet in the design district!

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    This part of town is in desperate need of a nice hotel. At first, it's kinda hard to think of Old East Dallas as a place with with some nice 'boutique' hotel options, but the more I think about it, the more difficult it becomes to think Old East Dallas does not have ANY nice boutique or interesting or kitchy or cool or trendy-trucker-hat-hipster friendly accommodations. It may be safe to say East Dallas is on the verge of being converted back to a really nice residential extension of the Central Business District. Hum.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamtagon View Post
    This part of town is in desperate need of a nice hotel. At first, it's kinda hard to think of Old East Dallas as a place with with some nice 'boutique' hotel options, but the more I think about it, the more difficult it becomes to think Old East Dallas does not have ANY nice boutique or interesting or kitchy or cool or trendy-trucker-hat-hipster friendly accommodations. It may be safe to say East Dallas is on the verge of being converted back to a really nice residential extension of the Central Business District. Hum.....
    I think it unfair to call Old East Dallas a "residenial extension of the CBD" as it has it's own history and a culture of it's own. East Dallas used to be the nicest part of the city ( 1900-1940's ). I think the turnaround occurred closer to 2005 when the Andres Brothers began their renovations to Henderson Ave. East Dallas is the next Oak Lawn !

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    ^Sweet!

    East Dallas needs about a hundred building similarly scaled.

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    Nice find. That is gorgeous.

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    Reminds me of the Wilson Building downtown. When are they supposed to announce this?

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    wow, now that hits the urban spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersatz View Post
    Is this a picture of what the building could look like or what it will look like?

    We sure don't want to jump the gun...http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/sh...-)(Unannounced)

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    A little love from Steve Brown...

    http://www.dallasnews.com/business/c...nox-street.ece

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    ^Is this development on Henderson or Knox? Per Steve Brown it appears to be on Knox and Cole.

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    The article references a project on Knox St, and the changes to that neighborhood over the years. It really doesn't belong in this thread.

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    It could be that the picture, one of three in a late design study, is for the Knox-to-Cole redevelopment plan.... or maybe Steve Brown linked to this thread not totally aware the topic is a Restoration Hardware superstore and Hotel....

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    I don't see what's so weird about this. He names a company and the exact lots. And it happens to be where Restoration Hardware is. The idea that it would be on Henderson is mentioned as only rumor on this very thread.

    The new store and the first of what is to be a new chain of high end hotels featuring the design talents of Gary Friedman, utilizing entire product lines from Restoration Hardware in a new and real world way. The rumored location will be on a combination triangle lot framed by Fitzhugh Avenue, Bennett Avenue and Mission Street with a possible annexation of a small section of Homer Street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheilock View Post
    The article references a project on Knox St, and the changes to that neighborhood over the years. It really doesn't belong in this thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by rantanamo View Post
    ... The idea that it would be on Henderson is mentioned as only rumor on this very thread.
    Ya, the title of the thread is misleading. The DMN article mentioned a stretch of Cole that's been rumored off & on for years to get a complete tear-down and redo, there's already a Restoration Hardware right there...

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    what's up with that?

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    Anyone know what became of the Restoration Hardware Gallery store/hotel project? Was it ever real? Is it going to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucy View Post
    Anyone know what became of the Restoration Hardware Gallery store/hotel project? Was it ever real?
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Brown
    So far Saroim and the property firms that work with it aren’t talking about their plans. But some supposed “spy” photos of development schemes for the project which have made it onto the Webshow buildings that would look at home on Chicago’s Michigan Avenue or fronting on Union Square in San Francisco.
    wistful

    Probably a concept and little more, maybe one day, though, Restoration Hardware will be a hotel brand as well as retail store...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucy View Post
    Anyone know what became of the Restoration Hardware Gallery store/hotel project? Was it ever real? Is it going to happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by tamtagon View Post
    Probably a concept and little more, maybe one day, though, Restoration Hardware will be a hotel brand as well as retail store...
    Poking this old thread since another thread got me remembering this concept as well. Looks like it is finally happening, but in NYC's Meatpacking District, not Dallas. It's not exactly the same as the rendering which was floated when the Dallas rumor was surfaced (I want to say brick and about 8-9 stories above a 2-story RH) but a flagship RH with the hotel "around the corner" which will be a showplace for RH merchandise in a boutique hotel setting.

    https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...t-hotel-report
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    If Dallas could land one I would be thrilled...what an interesting concept.

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    Well I can't say much- or anything at all- since no plans have been made, but this is still on the table. As some of you all know, I work for RH. The search for a location is still on. It might be on Knox, it might be the same building expanded or it may be something else. Dallas is very much on the radar as you can imagine it is a top volume store. Problem is real estate. The plan is to do something like one of these locations. https://www.restorationhardware.com/ (Scroll to the bottom to see newer stores) The idea is top stores will have a new, unique concept geared to each cities character. When I announced the above information, I wasn't an employee of RH. I am now, so I can not say anymore. We'll see what develops...

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    Glad to hear that the Knox store is a high volume store. Should bode well for the possibility of adding the concept here in the future. Knox/Henderson could use a nice boutique hotel, but if the tie-in is RH, it clearly belongs on the Knox side.

    As for real estate, that will be the hard part of the puzzle. It's getting pleasantly dense here. The old Weir's warehouse property is probably not in play or it would have been incorporated into Sarofim's Knox/Travis project. An expansion of the existing site could be workable - but will impact the street presence if taller than two stories. There are a couple of aging office buildings at NW corner of Oliver and Central that might be large enough if you add Ed Kellum's building as well - seems kinda removed from the retail action but would add freeway visability. The north side of Knox from McKinney Ave to Insurance Ln would be a good size, but Z Gallerie and La Duni would have to be sacrificed - La Duni could relocate to new TC project next door. There are creative ways to find more solutions, but of those three, I like the Z Gallerie idea. Didn't I hear that the property owner wanted a higher profile tenant? Bonus points for getting rid of a Mattress Firm in the process!

    PS - Don't even THINK about the SW corner of McKinney and Armstrong - gotta have my Kozy!
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    Wouldn't this look sweet and fit right on that spot that is/was Chili's (NE corner of Knox and Travis)?

    100% conjecture on my part - nothing new here, just my imagination running wild mostly because I love this proposal and really want it to come to be on Knox Street.

    RH DALLAS.jpg
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    cool image. did you create this yourself?

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    ^^No, that image first surfaced about 3-4 years ago in a story online about RH's new hotel concept. I assumed it came from RH.

    Meanwhile on the other end of the street at 3001 Knox Street (at NCX) - aka Knox Park Village - the new owner of this building may want to expand vertically above the stucco part (north end). The club that has occupied the second floor there for years has been (or soon will be) emptied and the story is the new owners want to add another 2-3 stories on top of the existing retail. Here are some pics of the existing structure (rumored expansion would be over the 2-story pic).

    Knox Park Village.jpgknox-park-village-782.jpg

    HINT to new owners: Please find a new tenant for Mattress Firm space on the corner, do we really need three Mattress Firms on the same block?
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    just wondering since I work @ the Knox location and have never seen it. I can't even remember if I posted it when I started the thread in 2012. people I work with have heard the old Chili's location will be knocked down for a multi-use, multi-story structure that will span over to Starbucks. I don't know if that's just someone spinning tales in relation to what's occurring all around. I have seen a permit notice in the door of former Chili's- maybe I'll walk over and see if I can make out the use.

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    Man, no kidding. Mattress stores have become as prevalent as bank branches.

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    Who's buying all these mattresses? I rarely see anyone in these stores...

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    This is the type of models they are running in Denver, Boston West Hollywood etc. I even saw one being built in Yountville (Napa)

    https://www.restorationhardware.com/...yatCherryCreek

    Here is a video for Chicago one.

    https://youtu.be/h7fYM630JMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelley USA View Post
    Who's buying all these mattresses? I rarely see anyone in these stores...
    Mattresses and beds have huge markups, so they don't actually have to sell many per month to pay for the store. Also, no chains sell a mattress with the exact same specs as another chain even if they sell the same brands, so it's not really possible to cross shop for the best price. As such, they can located pretty closely together as they don't have to compete ruthlessly on price.

    In other words, mattresses are more like steak restaurants than mass-produced retail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOverdog View Post
    Mattresses and beds have huge markups, so they don't actually have to sell many per month to pay for the store. Also, no chains sell a mattress with the exact same specs as another chain even if they sell the same brands, so it's not really possible to cross shop for the best price. As such, they can located pretty closely together as they don't have to compete ruthlessly on price.

    In other words, mattresses are more like steak restaurants than mass-produced retail.
    Well, if you believe mattress ads that say the weight of your mattress DOUBLES in a mere 8 years due to an accumulation of sweat and dead skin cells , then you should buy a new one every 8 years. I mean, they wouldn't lie to us, would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongonBigD View Post
    Wouldn't this look sweet and fit right on that spot that is/was Chili's (NE corner of Knox and Travis)?

    100% conjecture on my part - nothing new here, just my imagination running wild mostly because I love this proposal and really want it to come to be on Knox Street.

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    bumping this thread because RH is trending on the Knox general thread. (did I use "trending" correctly there?)
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    Yes, that would have been nice.

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    I was in Seattle a couple of weeks ago. Had to make a stop at the Amazon Books store in University Village. The Restoration Hardware is a couple of doors north of Amazon. A couple of more doors north of that, they are building a new, improved RH. It looks like the Melrose Ave RH in LA (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...790238!6m1!1e1). 2-3 stories, stair-stepped back as you go up.

    If this is the plan for Knox Street RH, just wow. Of course, for that to work like Seattle, they would have to build a new RH (perhaps where Chili's/PB Kids is now) and move once completed. That would leave the existing RH for new tenant(s). Any update from RH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongonBigD View Post
    I was in Seattle a couple of weeks ago. Had to make a stop at the Amazon Books store in University Village. The Restoration Hardware is a couple of doors north of Amazon. A couple of more doors north of that, they are building a new, improved RH. It looks like the Melrose Ave RH in LA (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...790238!6m1!1e1). 2-3 stories, stair-stepped back as you go up.

    If this is the plan for Knox Street RH, just wow. Of course, for that to work like Seattle, they would have to build a new RH (perhaps where Chili's/PB Kids is now) and move once completed. That would leave the existing RH for new tenant(s). Any update from RH?
    LongonBigD, are you the Forum member I met at the Gallery not to long ago?

    Yes, the Gallery prototype you saw going up in Seattle is what the plan is for Dallas. Or at least that's the plan for larger markets- going forward. One flagship Gallery per major market. Smaller markets like Tulsa or KC might get updates of their "legacy" stores or slightly enlarged Gallerys. There are still no concrete plans for Dallas. The landowner doesn't seem agreeable to partnering with RH to develop the current location in Dallas. RH is not doing deals without landowner partnership- this after flying the owner to the Chicago Gallery to see the potential. So it's wait and see. Other developers are courting RH for a location. I can't say where, but there are discussions. There is a possibility of two flagships in the DFW area since it's a growing and booming market. Sadly the second non-Dallas location is more concrete, but I can't disclose. I'm sure there are people on here that can make a good guess as to where. On the positive side, the current Knox Gallery is being renovated mid-August. Reset, repainted and half the Gallery converted to the Modern line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noelamador View Post
    LongonBigD, are you the Forum member I met at the Gallery not to long ago?
    No, I haven't been in the store in a long while. Only walk past regularly. Good to hear RH has a modern line. I have only ever purchased some bathroom fixtures from there as I find most of the inventory doesn't fit my aesthetic. Excited to see the new look and hope they can stay in KH.

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    I'm not sure that a mammoth RH is a good fit for Knox. I'd rather see fewer home goods and more apparel (nike, patagonia, cos, opening ceremony, etc..)

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