Grapevine: Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center

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Gaylord Texan has carved own niche
Rival hotels find that Gaylord Texan is more a draw than a threat
02:04 PM CST on Saturday, December 11, 2004
By SUZANNE MARTA / The Dallas Morning News
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/121204dnbusgaylord.d9f4c.html


As the Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center was being built, local hoteliers and tourism officials nervously referred to the Grapevine behemoth as the "giant sucking sound to the west." But less than nine months after it opened, the Gaylord complex appears to be performing well beyond its developer's expectations – without stealing business from the competition. "It certainly has increased the level of competition, but it's also brought more attention to the area," said Phillip Jones, chief executive of the Dallas Convention & Visitors Bureau. "Clearly, we'd like to have all their room nights in Dallas, but in retrospect it's been a positive development for the area."

Company officials say the Gaylord Texan is doing well by almost any measure. Occupancy was 75.7 percent during the most recent quarter – up from analysts' expectations of 65 percent and significantly higher than that of Dallas downtown properties. "They've brought in a lot of new business," said Greg Crown, a lodging expert with PKF Consulting in Dallas. "I don't know anyone who's not impressed with their ability to put heads in beds." Mr. Jones estimates that room demand in Dallas rose 5.1 percent from a year ago. Occupancy was up 4.3 percent, and room revenue rose 4.2 percent. Some Dallas hotels have even snared group meetings from customers who came to visit the $480 million Gaylord property but decided to go with something downtown instead, Mr. Jones said.

At the Wyndham Anatole in Dallas, which is similar in size to the Gaylord Texan, bookings have been looking up this year and next despite the added competition. "Time will tell, but it doesn't appear to have had a significant impact on us," said Tom Faust, the Anatole's vice president of sales and marketing. "The fact that they're drawing attention to Texas and the Dallas area for conventions and meetings is great for us." Gaylord relies on groups for 80 percent of its business, a higher percentage than most hotel companies. Although convention guests typically pay lower room rates than individual corporate travelers, the segment is also less sensitive to downturns in the economy.

Local appeal

Gaylord Entertainment Co., based in Nashville, Tenn., also boosts traffic by designing its projects to appeal to locals. At the Gaylord Texan, an assortment of restaurants, bars and shops has been so popular with residents that the property is adding 1,200 parking spots early next year. Local traffic has been especially robust during the last few weeks, as visitors come to see the hotel's Lone Star Christmas light display and roving entertainment. Aiming to offset slow sales in December, when corporate travelers stay home for the holidays, Gaylord has transformed all three of its hotels into holiday-themed attractions.

"We've made it one of our busiest times of the year," said Jay Sevigny, chief operating officer for the Gaylord Hotels division. Gaylord seeks conventions that will rotate events among its properties, a practice followed by 43 percent of its group customers, Mr. Sevigny said. The company's first two convention and resort complexes were in the Nashville and Orlando, Fla., areas. When the Gaylord Texan opened in April, it provided a critical third entry point to the company's offerings. A fourth location is now under construction in the Washington, D.C., area. "We're finally at the point where we have the base that we want," Mr. Sevigny said.

Model for growth

Analysts say Gaylord's business model – attracting groups to its sites and getting them to eat, work and have fun on premises – will help the company outpace the industry for revenue growth. Shares in the publicly traded company, which has other leisure, entertainment and retail holdings, have outpaced counterparts in the hotel business over the past two months. On Friday, Gaylord stock rose 44 cents to close at $38.39. "No one else is providing a one-stop shop convention hotel like Gaylord is," said Will Marks, an analyst with JMP Securities in San Francisco. "They really capture the wallet of their guests because everything is right there at the hotel."

E-mail smarta@dallasnews.com

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Once the LRT is built to DFW Airport and Irving, I see Gaylord Texas providing a free shuttle between the hotel and the closest rail station.

I doubt it. Their whole business plan is to keep their guests spending all their money within the complex. And they would not want to give up the $7 in parking fees for the visiting locals.

[psukhu]

^ Many local hotels provide free shuttles to area tourist spots. (even the gentlemens' clubs on Stemmons)

Does Gaylord currently have a free shuttle?

[sterling]

I hear the Gaylord Resort is all done up as a spectacular CHRISTMAS WONDERLAND. I think that might add even ANOTHER layer of charm to the interiors already so beloved by posters in this thread. Don't all jump in your cars at once guys.

[F4shionablecHa0s]

Did they string lights on the fake oil derrick?

[Kelley USA]

Actually the Gaylord does have trolly buses that shuttle people to Main Street Grapevine and several other locations... On weekends you can see tons of people getting on and off at the designated stop. The shops are crowded, restaurants stay full- it's done wonders for Main Street. Also, there are several free parking areas in Grapevine where you can catch the trolly and take it to the Gaylord.

[CTroyMathis]

Posted on Fri, Feb. 11, 2005

Gaylord's dining popularity brings growing pains (http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/10874576.htm)
So many local people are coming for dinner that the resort is putting in a parking garage
By David Wethe and Ellena F. Morrison
Star-Telegram Staff Writers

GRAPEVINE - When the Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center on Lake Grapevine opened in April, officials proudly proclaimed that it would bring new business to the Metroplex.

Now it's also luring more Metroplex residents than expected to its three upscale restaurants.

Hotel officials won't say exactly how good that restaurant business is, but they point to a $9.4 million parking garage being built at the north end of the property as evidence.

The crowds have also led Texan officials to table plans temporarily for the roughly $11 million Glass Cactus, an entertainment complex originally scheduled to open this year.

"You cannot put in another venue when you can't get to it," said John Imaizumi, the hotel's general manager.

The 1,511-room hotel doesn't have enough parking spaces to accommodate its out-of-town guests, employees and restaurant customers. So it has temporarily moved employee parking two miles away to the sprawling Grapevine Mills mall.

When it opens in July, Gaylord's second parking garage will be more than twice the size of the current one, offering 1,700 spots on three levels.

Meanwhile, the hotel is enduring other growing pains.

To handle around-the-clock shifts of its 1,900 employees, Gaylord Texan is running a 24-hour shuttle to mall parking. And on extremely busy nights, guests have to park down the road from the hotel at an overflow lot on Texas 26 and Ruth Wall Road.

The hotel has also had to turn people away because it didn't have enough parking, said Kathryn Goldstein, the hotel spokeswoman.

"That's a great, positive thing that we have so much traffic," she said. "We truly have become a destination for local folks to come and hang out."

After about 9,000 people crammed into the hotel one night during the holidays, the Gaylord Texan began turning people away because there was no more room to park, she said. Many were there just to see the Christmas display.

But Greg Crown, vice president of PKF Consulting in Dallas, said the Gaylord Texan is building the garage for more than just restaurant customers and locals.

"I think they're thinking of the future," he said. "You don't build a garage that big and decide later that you want to add on to it. They may not get another shot at it logistically."

Hotel officials said the additional parking will be needed once the Glass Cactus is built. The 20,000-square-foot entertainment complex, to be perched on an outcropping overlooking Lake Grapevine, will feature nightly musical acts, steak and seafood, and 1,000 seats.

"The plans have been tweaked a bit. The casual atmosphere originally planned has morphed into a more high-tech image," said Kathryn Goldstein, a Texan spokeswoman. "It will be a nightspot not only for our guests but the locals as well."

A construction date for the Glass Cactus has not been set.

After the garage is built, the hotel will have about 2,700 parking spaces on site and 1,100 more off-site.

The largest local competitor, the Wyndham Anatole in Dallas, has 2,400 spaces.

The Gaylord Texan also has more spaces than the Gaylord Palms in Orlando, Fla., said Greg Rossiter, spokesman for Gaylord Entertainment, which operates properties in Grapevine, Orlando and Nashville, Tenn.

Colin Reed, president and chief executive of Gaylord Entertainment, has said he's pleased with the early results of the restaurants in Grapevine.

"The Texan has become quite a draw for local residents in the Dallas-Fort Worth market, which is consistent with our strategy of developing revenues outside of the rooms," Reed said in an October conference call with reporters and analysts.

Though it doesn't break out specific restaurant numbers, the company reports a statistic that measures average revenue per available room that's spent on everything but the room itself. That includes things like restaurants, banquets, room service and gift shops.

That number is $140.29 for the nine months that ended Sept. 30, according to the company's third-quarter filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. A more current figure will be released next week.

Reed also said in the conference call that the company was working on improving the parking situation.

"These types of issues are much more easier to address than not having sufficient revenue," he said.

To draw local business, the Gaylord Texan is leaning on three of its restaurants: the Texan Station, a sports bar with a 52- by 15-foot TV screen; Ama Lur, a restaurant run by the renowned Texas chef Stephan Pyles; and Old Hickory Steakhouse.

Besides the parking garage, the Gaylord Texan is working on building a children's arcade. The size and design is still being determined, but it will most likely be in the basement of the Texan Station restaurant space.

It's not unusual for large resort hotels like the Gaylord Texan or the Wyndham Anatole to use their upscale restaurants to lure local customers, Crown said.

Tom Faust, vice president of sales and marketing for the Wyndham Anatole, said: "We do a lot of local business. Everybody can't go to Orlando for vacation."

The 1,610-room Dallas hotel mostly promotes its 24th-floor restaurant, called Nana.

The restaurant, which offers 360-degree views of nearby downtown and the surrounding area, recently snagged a chef from the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Barcelona, Spain.

Although the Wyndham Anatole can't give specifics on its restaurant business either, it is part of the overall food-and-beverage department, which experienced its best year ever in 2004, Faust said. Sales of food and beverage grew 18 percent from 2003 to 2004, he said.

With all the competition for dining out in the Metroplex, it will be interesting to see how well the 10-month-old Gaylord Texan performs in the future, Crown said.

The hotel could be having success with its restaurants partly because it's still in the honeymoon period, he said.

"I suspect there's a lot of trial going on -- people going out there to check it out," he said. "Whether that continues on is anyone's guess."

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^ Wow, that is great for the Gaylord Texan. I have friends in Arlington and Fort Worth that drive there for dinner and drinks. I do not understand why, though, when there are plenty of nice joints in both cities. I guess it is the "experience".

I wonder when the "newness" factor will fade?

[Mballar]

Here is a link to a study that attempts to address the effects of the Gaylord Texan on the Dallas Hotel Market. I think that it will be an intersting read for those who want to check it out.
http://www.hotelnewsresource.com/pdf/hvs010305.pdf

[Mballar]

Unwanted at resort, cabbies protest
3 drivers arrested, prompting work stoppage at D/FW

10:01 PM CDT on Wednesday, June 1, 2005


By KATHY A. GOOLSBY / The Dallas Morning News

GRAPEVINE – Finding a taxi Wednesday at the Gaylord Texan was easy.

But cabbies said catching a cab at the Grapevine resort and convention center is not.

So dozens of cab drivers drove up and down State Highway 26 past the resort's entrance at Gaylord Trail to protest the lack of a taxi stand at the front door. A few carried signs near the highway admonishing the resort for not offering guests transportation choices.

"Customers have told us they've asked for a cab there, and they tell them there's none available or it'll take half an hour to get one," cabdriver Kevin Anderson said. "They want everyone to take their limousine service."

A Gaylord Texan spokeswoman said a taxi stand does not fit with the resort's image.

"We don't have a taxi stand on the property because cab companies do not meet the world-class service we offer our clients," said Kathryn Goldstein, Gaylord's director of public relations. "If a guest wants to use a cab, they can call one. Cabs are welcome on our property."

Three cabbies were arrested at the protest for minor traffic infractions, prompting a short work stoppage among some taxi drivers at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport.Driver Harbi Hassan, a spokesman for the cabbies, said his group began writing letters asking the Gaylord Texan for a cabstand soon after the resort opened in April 2004.

"We tried to set up an appointment to meet with them, but we never got anything back. No response," he said.

The three cabbies arrested shortly after the protest began for failing to signal a turn posted bail and were released.

Sgt. Bob Murphy, spokesman for the Grapevine Police Department, said the arrests for the Class C misdemeanors were justified.

"This has to be put into the context of the agreement we had with the group and the understanding that no citations would be issued unless there were violations," Sgt. Murphy said.

Mr. Hassan said between 30 and 40 taxi drivers participated in the protest at the resort when it started about 1 p.m. After the arrests, all but about a dozen cabbies left.

Cabdrivers at the airport were outraged when word of the arrests reached them, and many participated in a 90-minute work stoppage.


Staff writers Eric Aasen and Marice Richter contributed to this report.

E-mail kgoolsby@dallasnews.com

[tamtagon]

"Customers have told us they've asked for a cab there, and they tell them there's none available or it'll take half an hour to get one," cabdriver Kevin Anderson said. "They want everyone to take their limousine service."

A Gaylord Texan spokeswoman said a taxi stand does not fit with the resort's image.

"We don't have a taxi stand on the property because cab companies do not meet the world-class service we offer our clients," said Kathryn Goldstein, Gaylord's director of public relations. "If a guest wants to use a cab, they can call one...."

Interesting to read the comments from a cab driver and the Gaylord's director of public relations in the DMN article, then to read from the HVS, Int'l study, this concept description of Gaylord's Opryland in Nashville:


Opryland is designed to function as an attraction in and of iteslf, with expansive atriums, restaurants, retail stores and other attractions. Located in a suburban setting, event attendees are encouraged to remain at the facility during the course of the event and dine, shop and sleep on-site.

The Opryland concept internalizes the visitor spending that most convention centers loose to nearby hotels, restaurants and stores. By capturing this spending, Gaylord is able to make a profit on convention business where as most convention centers operate at a deficit.

Makes it real easy to believe the cab drivers. Who wants to bet that in a year, Gaylord Texan announces an expansion to include more hotel rooms, but even more restaurants and shops??

[freewaytincan]

"We don't have a taxi stand on the property because cab companies do not meet the world-class service we offer our clients," said Kathryn Goldstein, Gaylord's director of public relations. "If a guest wants to use a cab, they can call one. Cabs are welcome on our property."

Wow.

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Gaylord Entertainment reports $13 million quarterly profit
By DAVID WETHE
Star-Telegram Staff Writer

The Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center on Lake Grapevine once again helped boost the earnings for its Nashville-based parent company in the first quarter.

For the three months ended March 31, Gaylord Entertainment reported a profit of $13 million, or 33 cents per share, on revenue of $242 million. That compares with a net loss of $8.9 million, or 22 cents per share, on revenue of $214 million for the same quarter in 2005.

The Texan saw $140.27 in the quarter for nightly revenue per available room, or revpar, a common industry measurement of a hotel’s financial health. That’s up 20 percent from last year’s revpar of $117.24.

The two-year-old property is one of the main reasons why the company’s hotel segment is doing so well, said Colin Reed, chairman and chief executive of Gaylord Entertainment.

“We’re managing our revenues very well and it’s cascading to the bottom line,” Reed said of the Texan.

The 1,511-room hotel posted a year-over-year, double-digit gain in occupancy – from 69 percent to 82 percent. It also boosted the average daily rate from $168.96 to $172.19.

Gaylord officials cited information from Smith Travel Research, a hospitality consulting firm, that the Gaylord Texan is number one in Texas for revpar, occupancy and average daily rate.

“The hotel business is on fire,” Reed said of the company’s business unit that includes five hotels and will soon see a sixth one open. “We have spent four years building a world-class brand that is really starting to show tremendous returns to our shareholders.”

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Don't know if this has been posting but I drove by the other day and it is well under construction... with a nice view of the lake!

Gaylord Entertainment Breaks Ground on Glass Cactus at Gaylord Texan Resort and Convention Center; A Spectacular Entertainment Complex to Be Built Overlooking Lake Grapevine

Business Wire, Sept 29, 2005
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Gaylord Entertainment Co. (NYSE:GET), the leading hospitality and entertainment company and parent company of Gaylord Hotels, today announced the ground breaking of the much anticipated "Glass Cactus" entertainment complex being built on the grounds of the landmark Gaylord Texan Resort and Convention Center on Lake Grapevine, outside Dallas. The nearly $16 million, 29,000 square-foot venue, with an additional 5,000 square feet of decking, will overlook Lake Grapevine and is set to open in the early fourth quarter of 2006. Glass Cactus will offer nightly live entertainment, dancing and a select menu.

"Glass Cactus will be the perfect addition to our existing venues, offering our guests a fantastically unique place to listen to live music, dance or host a private party," said Colin Reed, chairman and chief executive officer. "From the mariachis in Riverwalk, salsa band in our award-winning restaurant Ama Lur, and a 52 foot big screen TV in our sports bar at Texan Station, Glass Cactus adds the final touch to our numerous entertainment options."

The 60' x 30' state-of-the-art sound stage in Glass Cactus will feature musical acts ranging from rock and roll to country to jazz. Both top-named national entertainment and local/regional talent will be showcased at the venue.

Guests visiting Glass Cactus can park in the hotel's new 1,700 parking space garage or take the hotel trolley from the main entrance of the resort. Glass Cactus will be open to the local guests as well as overnight guests of the resort.

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From http://www.gaylordhotels.com/gaylordtexan/GlassCactus.cfm

Glass Cactus
Coming Summer 2006!

http://www.gaylordhotels.com/gaylordtexan/images/GlassCactusRendering_hero_1.jpg

"Glass Cactus" nightclub is a nearly $16 million, 39,000 square-foot venue, with an additional 13,000 square feet of decking, overlooking Lake Grapevine. Glass Cactus will offer nightly live entertainment, dancing, and a select menu.

The state-of-the-art sound stage in Glass Cactus will feature musical acts ranging from rock and roll to country to jazz. Both top-named national entertainment and local/regional talent will be showcased at the venue.

Guests visiting Glass Cactus can park in the hotel's new 1,700 parking space garage or take the hotel trolley from the main entrance of the resort. Glass Cactus will be open to the local guests as well as overnight guests of the resort.


Key Facts
39,000 square feet of interior space
13,000 square feet of decks on two floors
2 bars - Tequila River, Fire Bar
2 levels
"Texas chic" decor
VIP entrance and level, providing an upscale and secluded spot for private parties

[dfwcre8tive]

And while you're out there why not take a Duck cruise on Lake Grapevine? I saw one of the vehicles on the road the other day.

http://www.grapevineexcursions.com/

Video Here (http://www.grapevineexcursions.com/press/lonestaradventureAvi.html)

http://www.grapevineexcursions.com/gfx/meetduck03.jpg

http://www.grapevineexcursions.com/gfx/meetduck06.jpg

Boat walks like a duck and swims like a duck
Grapevine: Sightseeing tours offered in vehicles from World War II

12:00 AM CST on Friday, November 25, 2005
By MARICE RICHTER / The Dallas Morning News

An amphibious vehicle known as a "duck" has waddled into Grapevine, offering tourists a chance to sightsee from land and water.

Grapevine resident Jim Vallilee launched his duck tour venture this week, hoping to capitalize on the success of similar duck boat operations in other popular tourist destinations, including Boston, Branson, Mo. and Galveston.

"We have this wonderful lake here and this is an opportunity to get people out there to enjoy it," said Mr. Vallilee, a former computer software designer. "We have a lot of ways to attract tourists but not a lot of ways to get them on the lake."

This is apparently the first attempt to bring these vehicles to a Dallas-Fort Worth area lake, according to Mr. Vallilee and Grapevine city officials. "We researched it and found the next closest duck boats to be in Austin," said Grapevine police traffic Lt. Ken Murray.

The "duck" name is a spinoff of the vehicle's official name, DUKW, a military vehicle used to transport cargo during World War II. About 20,000 of the vehicles were manufactured between 1943 and 1945 and were used as landing craft in Europe and the Pacific during the war, officials said.

Duck boats can cruise at up to 55 mph on land and 5 mph in the water, Mr. Vallilee said. About 2,000 of the vehicles exist, with about half being used by tour companies around the country, Mr. Vallilee said.

Mr. Vallilee's company, Grapevine Excursions, purchased two vehicles from a Chicago operator and plans to buy two more. Only one is being used at a time, Mr. Vallilee said.

The Grapevine City Council recently granted Mr. Vallilee permission to drive a route around Grapevine Mills Mall and the dam area of the lake.

The route then takes the vehicle to a boat launch at Silver Lake Marina, where it enters the lake for a 30-minute tour. The tour lasts about one hour, and the vehicle can accommodate 28 passengers.

For now, duck boat rides begin and end at Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center on Lake Grapevine. Grapevine Excursions will reimburse riders the parking fee at the resort.

Mr. Vallilee had originally requested to drive the vehicle into downtown Grapevine, but council members refused to give him permission.

"There are a lot of people in this community who think this would be too out of character for our historical downtown, which is a shopping district," said Mayor William Tate. "People didn't want to see commercial vehicles like this driving up and down Main Street."

Mr. Vallilee said he hasn't given up on the idea of eventually driving the vehicles into downtown Grapevine. "We are hoping to show that we are good stewards of the land and the water," he said. "Then hopefully, they will open up Main Street as a route for us."

E-mail mrichter@dallasnews.com

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Grapevine nightspot is ready for a crowd
Glass Cactus has town bristling with excitement
11:45 PM CDT on Sunday, September 17, 2006
By MARICE RICHTER / The Dallas Morning News

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/09-06/0917cactus.jpg

A new addition to the sprawling Gaylord Texan Resort and Convention Center debuts this week, capitalizing on the complex's setting on Grapevine Lake and raising a bar for local nightlife. After years of planning and construction, the $16 million Glass Cactus opens Wednesday.

The Glass Cactus is being promoted as premiere entertainment venue and a departure from all other nightclubs in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Resort officials said it's similar to what can be found at the resorts of Las Vegas.

"Between the quality of the facility and the variety of the entertainment, there is nothing else like it around here," said Glass Cactus general manager Jim Biafore. "This is truly a world-class entertainment venue."

Designed to complement the $480 million resort, Gaylord officials created an indoor-outdoor facility with state-of-the-art sound, music and lighting systems and decks that provide sweeping views of the lake and North Texas sunset. "It is absolutely fabulous," said Grapevine City Council member Darlene Freed.

She recently attended a private preview party for local officials and event planners. "I could sit on the deck and stare out at the lake all day long. It's absolutely mesmerizing," she said.

The event, which featured a performance by singer LeAnn Rimes, was intended to a show off the typical evening roster of live entertainment mixed with recorded dance music.

The facility plans to host headline performers as well as local cover bands that represent the full gamut of musical styles from rock to country to blues. Comedy acts and other types of performances are also among the entertainment possibilities.

The facility also will be home to the Texas Music Project, a nonprofit group benefiting schools. "We plan to offer something for everyone from age 25 to 60-something," Mr. Biafore said. "There will be a variety of experiences to appeal to guests who want to sit up close enough to the stage to be sweat on by the entertainer to those who want to spend a quiet evening outdoors overlooking lake."

The facility has a capacity of 1,600.

The Glass Cactus will have a ready audience of resort guests, but officials expect the bigger part of the crowd to be local residents looking for an evening of fun and entertainment. "We think this is something that will be good for the community," said Paul Corliss, a spokesman for the Grapevine Convention and Visitors Bureau. "We've been hearing for a while that we need an upscale nightclub. This certainly fills that void," he said "It is very impressive."

When the resort opened in April 2004, Gaylord officials were unprepared for the response from local residents, who came to eat in the restaurants and clamored to book company holiday parties, weddings, family reunions and charity luncheons at the facility.

Thousands of visitors poured in during that first holiday season to look at the lavish decorations in the hotel atrium. Last year, more than 200,000 families visited an elaborate ice sculpture display the resort hosted, officials said.

As a result, Gaylord delayed construction of the Glass Cactus to first build a 1,700-space parking garage to meet demand.

From the start, the Glass Cactus was intended for a wider audience than resort guests, officials said. "It's definitely a place I would go with friends," said Beth Woodward, a marketing assistant for Triad Hospitals in Dallas, who attended the preview event. "Once people see it, they will love it."

The club will offer a wide range of appetizers, light meals and signature drinks such as a prickly pear margarita.

The nightly cover charge will be $5 for resort guests and the general public. The club will validate the $8 parking fee for all guests.

E-mail mrichter@dallasnews.com

Irresistible Numbers

39,000: Square feet of the two-level interior with entertainment and lounge space

13,000: Square feet of decking overlooking Lake Grapevine

2,000: Square feet of dance floor

165: Employees

125: Varieties of tequila
Online at:

[FoUTASportscaster]

Irresistible Numbers


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[tamtagon]

Irresistible Numbers
???

This is pretty irresistible to me:

13,000: Square feet of decking overlooking Lake Grapevine

125: Varieties of tequila

[TexasStar]

This could be something outstanding.

[dfwcre8tive]

Gaylord beats 3Q estimates, eyes expanding resort capacity
Dallas Business Journal - 2:51 PM CST Monday

Strong revenue built on higher occupancy rates at its resorts drove strong third-quarter results for Gaylord Entertainment Co. as it bested analysts' estimates, and company officials are talking about expanding room capacity...

Gaylord is considering expansion of all its facilities because its resorts are running near the 80 percent capacity mark, said Colin Reed, Gaylord chairman and CEO, during a conference call on Monday.

At each resort, the company will probably build 100 more rooms, as well as additional meeting space. The expansion at particular resorts will depend on which communities will be favorably inclined to the growth.

Adding rooms and meeting space is a relatively efficient way to generate high returns for the company's shareholders, says Reed, because there is no additional expenditure on food and beverage amenities.

Further information on expansion plans will probably be presented in about a month, officials said.

Web site: www.gaylordtexan.com

http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2006/11/06/daily5.html?surround=lfn

[dfwcre8tive]

This is cool:

http://www.glasscactusnightclub.com/

[RobertB]

In the thread discussing The T's rail expansion (http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=6020), it was noted that Gaylord gave $5,000 to the campaign to vote "Yes" on the proposal to contribute 3/8 of a cent of sales tax revenues to expand rail service to Grapevine. We properly lauded Gaylord for their enlightened self-interest -- which contrasts with Jerry Jones' attempts to redirect Irving's sales tax dollars for his own benefit.

But Gaylord is a business, after all. Can they justify their support to their shareholders?

This Google aerial shot (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=grapevine,+tx&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=32.945337,-97.065496&spn=0.023013,0.041714&t=h&om=1) says they can. Note the location of "Gaylord Trail", the road to the resort (still under construction in the photo). Now, look directly to the south of the junction of SH 26 and Gaylord Trail... that white east-west line is the Cotton Belt railroad. That's where The T will be building its link directly to downtown Fort Worth and to D/FW, with plans on the DART side for rail straight to downtown Plano. And the most logical Grapevine Station location is virtually at Gaylord Texan's front door.

Now *that's* enlightened self-interest! (Too bad Jerry Jones didn't see DART expansion near Texas Stadium that way!)

By the way, take a look at the Google photo again and you'll see an airplane on its takeoff climb! It's down near the Cotton Belt tracks. Its shadow is way out in front -- up near SH 26. Cool!

[dfwcre8tive]

Gaylord Hotels going smoke-free
02:24 PM CST on Monday, January 8, 2007
Associated Press

Following an industry trend, Gaylord Hotels will go smoke-free in February, the company announced Monday.

Smoking will end Feb. 12 at the Gaylord resorts in Nashville; Kissimmee, Fla.; and Lake Grapevine near Dallas. Gaylord's fourth resort in Prince George's County, Md., which is slated to open in 2008, will also be smoke-free.

Two major hotel chains – Marriott International Inc. and Westin Hotels & Resorts – both eliminated smoking rooms last year.

Gaylord Hotels said the decision was based on guest and employee preferences, as well as keeping their massive indoor atriums clean.

"We pride ourselves on offering extraordinary environments at our properties, which include climate-controlled glass-covered atriums featuring acres of indoor foliage and plants," John Caparella, executive vice president and chief operating officer, said in a news release.

Gaylord Hotels, which offer shopping, convention rooms and exhibition space, are owned by Nashville-based Gaylord Entertainment Co., which also owns the Grand Ole Opry country music show.

Caparella said guests increasingly requested nonsmoking rooms among the more than 7,000 rooms available. The chain had 245 smoking rooms available at the three resorts.

Gaylord will auction off 10,000 ashtrays with proceeds going to the American Lung Association.

[dallasrookie]

Gaylord beats 3Q estimates, eyes expanding resort capacity
Dallas Business Journal - 2:51 PM CST Monday

Strong revenue built on higher occupancy rates at its resorts drove strong third-quarter results for Gaylord Entertainment Co. as it bested analysts' estimates, and company officials are talking about expanding room capacity...

Gaylord is considering expansion of all its facilities because its resorts are running near the 80 percent capacity mark, said Colin Reed, Gaylord chairman and CEO, during a conference call on Monday.

At each resort, the company will probably build 100 more rooms, as well as additional meeting space. The expansion at particular resorts will depend on which communities will be favorably inclined to the growth.

Adding rooms and meeting space is a relatively efficient way to generate high returns for the company's shareholders, says Reed, because there is no additional expenditure on food and beverage amenities.

Further information on expansion plans will probably be presented in about a month, officials said.

Web site: www.gaylordtexan.com

http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2006/11/06/daily5.html?surround=lfn

I Know that this article happen many moons ago, but did you all hear anything about this expansion?

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Posted on Mon, Aug. 20, 2007
Grapevine seeking rooms to grow
By DAVID WETHE
Star-Telegram staff writer
http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/207580.html

GRAPEVINE -- Like clockwork, the trolley motors down Main Street.

The boutiques it passes along the way sport signs that welcome the latest group of conventioneers staying at the nearby Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center. Every other hour, the blue-and-white bus -- made to look like an old-time trolley -- drops off guests from the Gaylord Texan like an armored truck dropping off moneybags.

The trolley highlights this town's dependence on one of the strongest convention hotels in the state. But the ties stretch beyond Main Street.

Each year, the 1,511-room property hosts 35-40 groups that are so large they spill guests out into other hotels around Grapevine. It's so much business that more hoteliers are looking for a piece of the action.

While the Grapevine hotel market has almost doubled since before the Gaylord Texan opened in April 2004 -- from 2,300 rooms in 11 hotels to 4,500 rooms in 16 hotels -- it's not done yet.

An additional 1,500 rooms scattered across four hotels are in the works, all partly because of growth at the Gaylord.

"The effect of the Texan can't be overstated," said Kevin Gallagher, a Dallas hotel executive looking for space to build a hotel for his company somewhere near Main Street in Grapevine. "I think very few people really were aware of how much demand they were going to induce."

Bringing more upscale demand

Grapevine hotels are booming, experts say. The market is considered one of the hottest in the state.

A common industry measurement of a hotel's financial health is its revenue per available room, or revpar. The average revpar for hotels in Grapevine grew 29 percent in three years, to $101.43 in 2006, according to Smith Travel Research. That's almost twice the average for all hotels in Texas during 2006, which was $51.30.

"A lot of downtown areas would be envious of their numbers," said Todd Walker, vice president at Source Strategies, a San Antonio-based hotel consultant.

Hotels along the Riverwalk in San Antonio have almost an identical average revpar, but they're also a little more empty -- 68 percent full compared with Grapevine's 72 percent occupancy, Walker said.

Much of the reason for such a high revpar in Grapevine is attributed to the Gaylord Texan and the Embassy Suites next to the Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World, Walker said.

Both are the type of upscale, full-service hotels Grapevine would like to see more of.

In fact, in 2000, the city passed an ordinance requiring new lodging to have at least 300 rooms, 10,000 square feet of meeting space and a full-service restaurant. The ordinance applies to most parts of Grapevine but excludes downtown.

Grapevine officials think the city has reached its "maximum threshold" for limited-service hotels, said Barry Lewis, spokesman for the Grapevine Convention & Visitors Bureau.

Limited-service hotels generally don't have room service or full-service restaurants that are open throughout the day.

"We're really trying to establish Grapevine as a destination for both leisure travelers and the groups and meetings convention market," Lewis said, "and not just an airport-hotel destination."

That's kind of what Grapevine was before the Grapevine Mills mall opened in 1997, he said. The mall helped give more hotels more of a destination to build around.

All the hotel development has really occurred over the past 11 years, when 13 hotels popped up on the Grapevine map. Before that, the only hotel in Grapevine that wasn't on Dallas/Fort Worth Airport property was the 393-room Hilton DFW Lakes Executive Conference Center, which opened in 1983.

But as much as Grapevine wants to be more of a place for big-dollar, full-service hotels, there's still some work to be done to attract the clientele that stays there, said Greg Crown, vice president for hotel adviser PKF Consulting.

While Grapevine has attractions such as the mall, lake, downtown and Gaylord Texan, it doesn't have a lot of office space. More office space means more corporate travelers in town visiting clients. They're the ones who can generally afford the higher room rates that Grapevine is after.

"Quite frankly, the reason all the commercial guys stay in Grapevine is it's a great central location from which to serve the greater Dallas-Fort Worth and the greater D/FW Airport area," Crown said. "It's less driven by Grapevine itself than what it is that surrounds Grapevine."

Yet because of the high revpar and occupancy numbers, Crown still sees Grapevine as "among the hottest markets around."

New growth

Most of the hotel development planned for Grapevine makes sense, Crown said.

Officials for Gaylord Entertainment, the Nashville-based parent of the Texan, recently announced that they're talking with officials from the city and the Army Corps of Engineers -- owner of property that part of the Texan sits on -- about adding 500 rooms and as much as 300,000 square feet of meeting space to the hotel.

Several experts said Gaylord's expansion would help bring in even larger conventions than it's already attracting.

The American Bus Association is one example of the huge meetings the Gaylord Texan is already attracting. In January, the group brought 3,000 people to town and spread them over nine hotels in Grapevine, Lewis said.

Just across Northwest Highway from the Gaylord Texan is the construction site for Great Wolf Lodge. That hotel is expected to open in December with 402 rooms. But already officials for the Madison, Wis., parent company are looking at adding 204 rooms after it opens.

The hotel will pump 435,000 gallons of water through its 80,000-square-foot indoor water park. The hotel will complement the Gaylord Texan because Great Wolf will seek primarily leisure travelers while its counterpart goes after group meetings, said Jack Bateman, the general manager for Great Wolf.

Great Wolf also hopes to get some of the Texan's spillover business that's going to other hotels in Grapevine, he said.

The water-park hotel concept is popular up north, especially in Wisconsin and Minnesota.

But Crown is skeptical about its success in the South. He points out that most business travelers don't travel with their families and argues that they won't warm up to the water park.

"I just don't understand what you're going to do in that place Monday through Thursday nights in the key commercial periods," he said. "Why would I stay in that hotel?"

With 30,000 square feet of meeting space, Great Wolf will try to attract some group business, Bateman said. But he added that the hotel's bread and butter will be leisure travelers. And some may be stolen away from other leisure destinations around Texas.

"You're going to have some cannibalization, there's no doubt about that," he said. "But the fact is that the brand is so unique that people are going to come up and give trial visits."

Just across Texan Trail from Great Wolf Lodge, Joe Champ is looking to put up a 300-room hotel.

To meet the 300-room minimum required by the Grapevine ordinance, the hotel would carry the "aloft" and "element" brands, both new hotel concepts from Starwood Hotels and Resorts. Plans call for two lobby entrances, said Champ, formerly chief investment officer for Dallas-based Wyndham Hotels and Resorts.

Champ expects to close on the land, which is inside the Grapevine Station development, closer to year's end.

A Hilton Garden Inn is also under construction near Main Street, south of Texas 121/114. Although that's expected to open sometime in 2008 with only 110 rooms, the hotel was grandfathered in. The city approved the permits before the ordinance went into effect seven years ago. But 9-11 and a slowing hotel industry put the job on hold for a while, Lewis said.

Main Street business

The city's 300-room minimum does not apply to hotels along Main Street in downtown Grapevine.

That's because no hotels at all are allowed along the historic road, said Scott Williams, director of development services for the city. But that doesn't mean a developer couldn't ask for council approval to change the zoning for his property.

To build a hotel, the developer would also have to get approval from the city's Historic Preservation Commission.

Gallagher, vice president of business development for Dallas-based Prism Hotels & Resorts, is interested inbuilding a small hotel somewhere near Main Street.

Experts disagree on whether a hotel could survive there.

Regardless, the Grapevine hotel market looks good from a pure numbers standpoint, Gallagher said.

"It's not just that it's a fun place," Gallagher said. "It's because the underlying fundamentals of occupancy are strong. It's a simple supply-demand equation. When demand is up, you can add supply."

And when hotel demand is up, you can also add nearby retail. That's why Paul Ryan and his wife, Kathleen, are holding down a couple of retail spots downtown. One is a Texana-themed gift and novelty shop, Tolbert's Texas Trading Co., and the other is a chili restaurant called Tolbert's, both named after Kathleen's dad, Frank X. Tolbert.

"We wouldn't have opened if the Gaylord hadn't gone in," Paul Ryan said.

Many retailers end up staying open a couple of hours later than their usual 6 p.m. closing time some days, just for the conventioneers spilling out of the trolley after a day of meetings at the Gaylord Texan.

"We love seeing the Gaylord trolley come down," said Kathleen Socket, an assistant manager at Auntie's Beads, a small store on Main Street. Socket, who's lived in the area for 15 years, remembers when times were not so busy downtown.

"I brought my mom up and down these streets 10 years ago and there was nothing," she said. "Now it's just crazy."

[Mballar]

I wonder how much the City of Dallas and its retailers benefits from the Gaylord. Surely, the guests of the hotel don't spend their entire time in Grapevine. I'm sure the Dallas Convention and Visitor's Bureau has a strong partnership with the Gaylord.

[tamtagon]

While I doubt Gaylord would put another facility in North Texas, The Gaylord Texan is exactly the type of hotel facility the Dallas Convention Center needs to secure through the public contribution of millions of municipal dollars. Maybe one of those Disney themed hotel resorts would work....

...anyway, great for Grapevine. That area is turning into a fantastic draw into the Metroplex. It would be nice to know what percentage of total trip spending is done in Dallas among the visitors to the Gaylord Texan.

[Geaux Tigers]

It would be nice to know what percentage of total trip spending is done in Dallas among the visitors to the Gaylord Texan.

Aside from a few trips to the Sixth Floor Museum and run over to the Galleria or maybe Northpark, I'd guess the answer would be not much. There's plenty to do in Grapevine and adjacent Southlake. It's no wonder why Bob's Steakhouse is opening in Grapevine.

[mgd323]

They send vans to Sam Moon's; the day I was there they were coming and going quite frequently.

[mikedsjr]

While I doubt Gaylord would put another facility in North Texas, The Gaylord Texan is exactly the type of hotel facility the Dallas Convention Center needs to secure through the public contribution of millions of municipal dollars. Maybe one of those Disney themed hotel resorts would work....

A Disney themed, Gaylord sized Hotel in Dallas would be cool. I would go to it. But I'm truly TRULY a kid at heart. For me, a cheesy and/or touristy hotel is better than the glitzy hotels. I feel so awkward in one of those hotels with my jorts on.

[Geaux Tigers]

They send vans to Sam Moon's; the day I was there they were coming and going quite frequently.

Isn't that technically Farmers Branch?

[kenc]

Aside from a few trips to the Sixth Floor Museum and run over to the Galleria or maybe Northpark, I'd guess the answer would be not much. There's plenty to do in Grapevine and adjacent Southlake. It's no wonder why Bob's Steakhouse is opening in Grapevine.

That's pretty much on the money. They run shuttles from the Hotel into Dallas for shopping, Sixth Floor Museum, and the World Aquarium. Also into Ft. Worth for the Stockyards area, and to the Mesquite rodeo when in season. Otherwise the $$ stays in Grapevine.

[mgd323]

Isn't that technically Farmers Branch?

:errrr: .....my bad.

[Tnekster]

11:12 AM CDT on Wednesday, September 5, 2007
By SUZANNE MARTA / The Dallas Morning News
smarta@dallasnews.com
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/090607dnbusgaylordexpansion.a442bb6e.html

Officials for Gaylord Entertainment Co. confirmed Wednesday that they plan to move forward with a $315 million expansion to their Grapevine resort.

Gaylord will add another 500 rooms and 200,000 square feet of meeting space to its massive Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center on Lake Grapevine starting next year.

The long-rumored project would create the largest hotel in Texas when finished in 2010.

Gaylord said Wednesday that it has received approvals for economic incentives from the Grapevine City Council, and it was still waiting for necessary approvals by the Army Corps of Engineers and by its own board of directors.

The project includes a resort pool and other recreational amenities aimed at the hotel’s growing leisure business.

Colin V. Reed, Gaylord’s chairman and chief executive, said in a statement that the project would create new jobs, add to the local tax base and help the hotel complex better accommodate demand.

[tamtagon]

Wow!

Is there a resort on Lake Grapevine that has dinner cruises (yet)?

Oh, and, has DART proposed (yet) to The T and/or Grapevine Tourism folks that the commuter rail route from DFW Airport to downtown Grapevine be conditioned to accommodate Light Rail vehicles?

[gc]

Wow is right!

[dallasrookie]

I Know that this article happen many moons ago, but did you all hear anything about this expansion?

\Back in july 3rd i figure we will hear something about the expansion, too many key local economic forces fell together. That is good to hear.

Now it Dart turn to make some news, i bet.

[rantanamo]

anyone think they are going broke for the Superbowl. They would now be candidates for the NFL experience.

[dfwcre8tive]

What a kid: Gaylord Texan helps pull parent out of red
David Wethe
dwethe@star-telegram.com
http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/461032.html
Posted on Thu, Feb. 07, 2008

The Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center once again led the way, helping pull its corporate parent out of the red from a year earlier.

For the three months ending Dec. 31, Nashville-based Gaylord Entertainment reported a profit of $3.8 million, or 9 cents a share, on revenue of $209 million. That compares to a loss of $93.7 million, or $2.30 per share, on revenue of $199 million for the same period a year earlier.

For the year, Gaylord Entertainment recorded a profit of $111 million, or $2.73 a share. That’s up from a loss of $79 million, or $1.96 a share, in 2006.

The 1,511-room Grapevine property led all three of Gaylord’s mega hotels with the highest average daily rate as well as the most total revenue per available room, or revpar, which is a key industry measurement of a hotel’s financial health.

The Gaylord Texan had revpar of $375.60 for the quarter. Occupancy there was essentially flat at 72 percent, and rooms sold for an average of $176.79 a night, a $5.29 increase from the previous year, the company said.

David Kloeppel, the company’s chief financial officer, described the Texan’s quarterly performance as “solid,” in a conference call with analysts. He said the increase in total revpar is “largely a result of our continued success of our outside-the-room offerings at the Texan.”

That includes ammenities such as the new Glass Cactus night club.

The company did not mention anything about the financial dispute between Gaylord and the companies that built the $16 million facility that overlooks Grapevine Lake.

Brian Abrahamson, a spokesman for Gaylord Entertainment, said after the call that the lawsuit between the company and Fort Worth-based Westwood Contractors, which was the general contractor, has been settled. He declined to release details of the settlement, citing a confidentiality agreement.

Shares of Gaylord (ticker: GET) rose $2.73 to $33.20 on Thursday.

DAVID WETHE, 817-685-3803

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Gaylord expansion opposed by local residents
February 15th, 2008

It's a massive tribute to North Texas, complete with its own Alamo and it towers over Lake Grapevine. New plans call for the Gaylord Texan to get a whole lot bigger. But neighbors say no way, not wanting a 12-storey building virtually in their front lawn. Channel 8's Darla Miles reports.

http://www.wfaa.com/video/index.html?nvid=218573

[GuerillaBlack]

Typical.

[jimbone]

Typical.
If you don't live there what does it mean to you.

[dfwcre8tive]

Grapevine residents balk at Gaylord Texan expansion plans
04:19 PM CDT on Wednesday, March 26, 2008
By MARICE RICHTER / The Dallas Morning News
mrichter@dallasnews.com
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032708dnmetgaylordtexan.1190a6b.html

The Grapevine City Council's unanimous approval of the Gaylord Texan Resort and Convention Center's proposed expansion has angered some residents, prompting them to look at new ways to fight the plans.

Dozens of residents packed council chambers on Tuesday night to speak at a joint public hearing of the council and Planning and Zoning Commission.

About 40 residents – supporters and opponents – spoke during a five-hour hearing of the resort's $315 million expansion, which would add a 12-story tower with nearly 500 new hotel rooms and 200,000 square feet of additional convention space.

"We think of this as a win-win situation," said Gaylord Texan general manager John Imaizumi. "We understand the concerns of the neighborhood, and there are concessions in our plans to address those concerns.

"But this is a great opportunity for Grapevine to move forward as a destination city. We are very excited."

Some residents who live within blocks of the resort wore blue T-shirts with a logo stating "in the shadow." They pleaded with city officials to rethink the expansion proposal.

...

Among the conditions, Gaylord must install shorter light poles on the parking garage, use light barriers in the upper levels of the parking garage and develop a plan within 90 days to mitigate outdoor noise at the Glass Cactus nightclub.

Gaylord officials also agreed to build a 31.7-foot tall wall around outdoor air-conditioning chillers to shield neighbors from the sound.

[I45Tex]

If you don't live there what does it mean to you.

This expansion is a case of dispersed benefits and concentrated costs. The benefits of this expansion to Metroplex companies, salaries, and travelers are obviously going to be greater than its additional impact on already impacted property values and quality of life for a few neighbors, but as your comment shows, the neighbors figure that the benefits to everybody else are invisible enough not to be worth thousands of non-neighbors noticing and fighting for in advance. So the few figure that they can use pressure to pare the project down - even though it's a net loss for the city and region to do so in order to maintain the neighbors' privacy - before the many could possibly get their dander up about that spread-out net loss.

[I45Tex]

Sentimentalized, it's a case of wanting a +4 situation for one's kids even if it means -1 for five other people's kids.

[NThomas]

Gaylord Texan named hotel of the Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Business Journal
June 25, 2009
Full Article (http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2009/06/22/daily56.html)

The Gaylord Texan Resort & Convention Center in Grapevine has been named the official hotel of the Dallas Cowboys, the team said.

The partnership will last for two years, said Martha Neibling, spokeswoman for the resort.

"We've always worked a lot with the Cowboys, and they're a first class organization," Neibling said. This pairing marks the first official partnership for the hotel with a professional sports team.

The Gaylord will be the host hotel for the Cowboys players, coaches and staff, who will stay at the resort on the night before home games, along with the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders — and fans visiting from out of town. The resort will be promoted on the Cowboys fan Web site, Neibling said...

[aygriffith]

Gaylord Texan named hotel of the Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Business Journal
June 25, 2009
Full Article (http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2009/06/22/daily56.html)

Hell of a lot better hotel than the DFW Marriot North where they used to stay... Although harder to control. Fans were always outside of the Marriott trying to signatures and pictures of the players before they went to the game.

[cowboyeagle05]

I guess that really counts out the previously announced Westin Hotel that was to be built nearby the stadium. Course they could still build it within the next two years and nab up the sponsorship.

[hvresident]

I thought the Westin hotel was cancelled.

[dfwcre8tive]

Paradise Springs at Gaylord Texan Now Open to Hotel Guests!

Gaylord Texan's western-themed 10-acre resort pool & lazy river complex, Paradise Springs, delights visitors with entertaining water features, tasty cuisine, outdoor lawn games, and sun bathing decks. Grab an inner tube to begin your relaxing journey down a 600-foot-long winding lazy river or start soaking up the sun on one of the pool's 1,200 seats including chaise loungers, beach chairs, family-style rounds, and private cabanas. Make a splash in the 6,000-square-foot family lagoon featuring a 27-foot-tall winding waterslide, 2 horseshoe-shaped hot pools, and a dedicated toddler pool. For those craving outdoor adventure between dips in the pool, the game pavilion offers bocce ball, croquet, tossers, shuffleboard, and a large campfire pit. And to satisfy the Texas-sized appetites that accompany a day of play at the pool, Paradise Springs offers a full-service Pool Bar & Grill, quick-order concession stand, and poolside menus. Pack your bags to escape to the most enchanting pool in the Wild West!

http://www.gaylordhotels.com/gaylord-texan/grapevine-dallas-entertainment-attractions/waterpark-pool-complex/index.html?intcmp=gt-pl=cnav-cid=GenL-paradise-springs-pr

http://www.gaylordhotels.com/assets/hero-images/texan/GT_paradise-springs-lazy-river-hero.jpg

Here are the original renderings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gffarchitects/sets/72157626902215746/with/5806196664/