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ihavebeenseen
16 February 2009, 08:21 AM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-oncor_16bus.ART.State.Edition1.4c0eb55.html

Smart move on Oncor's (EFH) part. Oncor's $16M adds 6.5 MW of new generation capacity or enough for 2K homes. Given the fact that new nuke and coal plants are so expensive why not make that $16M into $1.6B?

It would be nice to see Big D throw some rebates into that mix as well, ala San Francisco’s solar program.



12:00 AM CST on Monday, February 16, 2009
By ELIZABETH SOUDER / The Dallas Morning News
esouder@dallasnews.com

Oncor will pay cash to homeowners and businesses that install solar panels.

The electricity delivery company, the arm of Energy Future Holdings that operates power lines, is expected to announce a program today to offer $2.46 per watt of solar power installed. An average home's solar electricity installation costs about $26,000 and would get more than $7,000 from the incentive program.

"This really hasn't been done at this scale by any utility in Texas," said Steve Wiese, a contractor working with Oncor to implement the program.

Oncor set aside $16 million for the incentives it will pay out during the next four years. Spokeswoman Carol Peters said the company wants to help pay for 1,400 installations.

Peters said the regulated utility won't ask the Public Utility Commission to charge consumers for the cost of the solar incentive. The $16 million is part of the promise Energy Future Holdings made to support renewable energy and efficiency when the company purchased TXU Corp.

Still, even with the Oncor rebate on top of a federal solar incentive, it takes decades for most solar installations to pay for themselves in terms of savings on utility bills. At this point, home solar installations tend to be hobbies for environmentalists and engineers. An average home solar system has about 3.2 kilowatts in capacity, costs about $26,000 including installation and generates about 4,500 kilowatt hours of power each year, according to Standard Renewable Energy, one of the companies participating in the program.

Oncor would pay a $7,872 rebate for the system, and the federal tax credit would be about $7,800.

If electricity costs 15 cents per kilowatt hour, and the cost rises about 10 percent a year, Standard calculates that it would take about 10 years for the utility-bill savings to pay for the cost of the solar panels. If electricity costs less or the customer takes out a loan to pay for the system, the payback time grows.

A second goal of the Oncor program is to create a group of solar panel installation companies with trained, certified workers. So far, 20 companies have signed up to work for the program.

"In just talking to customers, there's a lot of interest in solar water heating and solar photovoltaics, from people that sold the technology and customers that wanted it. But there's no middle piece, the people to actually install it, market it to end customers, etc.," said Michael Stockard, director of energy efficiency programs for Oncor.

He said the company will offer incentives for both solar photovoltaic installations, which generate electricity, and solar water heaters.

To get the incentive, a customer would contact one of the participating installation companies.

The installer first checks that a customer's home is suited for solar panels. The home must have a south-facing roof with little tree cover.

"We'll talk through all the positives and the negatives of the system. By the time we're finished with my initial consultation, you're going to know just exactly what is an appropriate installation for your roof and how much it's going to cost," said Jim Duncan, founder of North Texas Renewable Energy Inc., one of the installation companies working with the Oncor program.

The customer pays half the cost upfront, then Duncan can get to work.

He designs a system and orders the panels. Installation typically takes two or three days, he said.

After the system is in place and connected to the grid, Oncor sends an inspector to make sure the work meets the incentive program criteria. If so, Oncor sends Duncan a check, and the customer owes him the balance of the bill.

A solar installation can cut a customer's bill by generating power and by selling excess power back to the grid.

LH_Newbie
16 February 2009, 10:07 AM
Over a 25 year lifespan, with 60% rebates, that puts the cost per KwH of a system in the 8 cent range at current prices.

You get 30% from the Fed, 30% from Oncor and you still want more? And you want it paid by local taxes? I have to disagree. If at 60% off you aren't going to bite the bullet, you never are. At these discout levels, it's killing me that we don't have any good Southern exposure... I would totally put up a 5.8KW solar array, which on average would completely cover our electric usage. There's just no way I'm cutting down the trees in our front yard - they are a big part of why we moved into this neighborhood.

Brian

ihavebeenseen
16 February 2009, 10:18 AM
SFs program was designed to help lower income households with the cost. I have no problem with that. BTW we have the same problem here in LFH with too much tree coverage or else we would be all over it. Guess this is one benefit of living in the burbs.

UrbanHope
16 February 2009, 11:35 AM
I'll take it. I was considering putting solar on my next home. Sounds like a winner to me. Between this and the rainwater collection piece I should be in good shape.

jdwillis
16 February 2009, 11:39 AM
Austin Energy (http://www.austinenergy.com/Energy%20Efficiency/Programs/Rebates/Solar%20Rebates/index.htm) has a program.



Solar Photovoltaics
Austin Energy offers rebates to help customers implement solar photovoltaic technology in their homes and businesses. The rebates help offset the cost of a solar photovoltaic electric system.
Note: As a municipally-owned utility, Austin Energy may only offer this program to its customers.

Austin Energy offers customers one of the country's best solar photovoltaic rebates, at $4.50 per watt. This pays between 45% and 75% of the cost of installing a system.

For a typical residence, the cost of installing a one kilowatt (1,000 watts) solar photovoltaic system—the smallest considered practical—is between $6,000 and $10,000. Austin Energy will rebate $4,500 ($4.50 x 1,000 watts) of that.



Power Saver™ Program
Solar Photovoltaics—Customer Costs and Benefits

Purchasing a Solar Energy System
Residential Installations
The solar energy rebate for a residential installation is capped at 80% of the invoiced cost or a maximum of $13,500, whichever is less.

Not-for-Profit Installations
The solar energy rebate for not-for-profit installation is capped at 80% of the invoiced cost or a maximum of $100,000, whichever is less.

Commercial Installations
A solar energy rebate for a commercial installation is capped at 80% of the invoiced cost or a maximum of $100,000, whichever is less.

LH_Newbie
16 February 2009, 12:39 PM
FYI:

Before getting a solar array, it's better to decrease usage as much as possible (so the size of system required is smaller). We added a bunch of attic insulation, replaced a few windows, replaced the old non-ic rated recessed lighting with IC-rated cans (so insulation can be placed on top of them), upgraded to a 16-SEEER dual stage HVAC system and installed a tankless hot water heater. Our winter bills are 30% lower now; our summer bills are 50% lower. Today, we would only need a 5.8Kw solar array to equal an average of 100% our usage; prior to the upgrades, we would have needed about 10Kw. From a financial perspective, we invested about $10K total (self installed everything) in the energy efficiency upgrades. The 4.2Kw difference in solar array would have cost $20K if installation costs were free... so as you can see, efficiency certainly pays for itself. In our case, with the upgrades we did, that's a 2-to-1 ratio. Now that the federal government upped the energy efficiency tax credit program to 30%, up to $1500 for new windows/doors/insulation - we are looking at possibly replacing the rest of our windows, which should decrease our summer and winter bills by an additional 15% (on top of increasing our resale value and quieting the inside of the home).


As you can probably tell, we've had a pretty methodical process of decreasing our energy usage.

Brian

electricron
17 February 2009, 01:27 AM
I agree with LH.

It may not be as glamorous as generating your own heat or electricity; getting your home more energy efficient saves more money quicker and cheaper. Becoming more energy efficient can be done one step at a time, vs spending all at once.

UrbanHope
17 February 2009, 09:56 AM
good stuff. We definitely will do everything else before we get an assessment for solar, although we were thinking about overbuilding our solar capacity in case we get a plug-in car.

downtownguy25
17 February 2009, 10:05 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ethicalman/2009/02/ethical_man_is_reborn.html

KBilly
17 February 2009, 04:29 PM
good stuff. We definitely will do everything else before we get an assessment for solar, although we were thinking about overbuilding our solar capacity in case we get a plug-in car.
Michael... building on the others here, put every last cent into SIPS or ICF construction, wood or vinyl low-e, argon filled windows, spray foam insulation, possibly a sealed attic, a metal rood (immediate 25% yearly discount on homeowner's policy), tankless hot water and a separate water meter only for your yard watering (no more big sewer charges!), before ever spending a cent on solar. Then you are prepared.

This program looks interesting, but only if I CAN pick the installers.

ihavebeenseen
21 February 2009, 02:03 PM
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-solarbills_21bus.ART.State.Edition1.4c80014.html



SOLAR BILLS

12:00 AM CST on Saturday, February 21, 2009

Texas lawmakers have filed several bills this session to encourage people to install solar panels. Some bills remove hurdles for solar, others set targets for solar capacity installation.

SB 618

Author: Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso

What's in it: Exempts solar devices and installation from sales taxes.

SB 236

Author: Royce West, D-Dallas

What's in it: Prevents property owners associations from restricting solar installations.

SB 677

Author: Shapleigh

What's in it: Requires some builders to offer solar equipment options in new homes.

SB 600

Author: Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio

What's in it: Adds solar technology to a program requiring utilities to invest in helping customers reduce their electricity consumption. The bill includes targets for the amount of solar capacity: 200 megawatts by 2011, 500 by 2013 and 1,500 by 2019.

SB 601

Author: Van de Putte

What's in it: Requires electric utilities to help build an infrastructure of service providers to work on renewable energy systems for homes and businesses. Also requires utilities to offer efficiency and renewable programs to cut peak demand 0.5 percent by 2012 and 1 percent by 2015. This replaces a requirement for utilities to cut annual demand growth. The change encourages solar installations because the sun typically shines during peak demand hours.

SB 598

Author: Van de Putte

What's in it: Creates a loan program for schools to install solar panels.

SB 545

Author: Troy Fraser, R-Horseshoe Bay

What's in it: Requires electric utilities to offer incentives to customers to install solar panels. Residential customers would pay for the incentive with a 10-cent-per-month fee on their electricity bills.

HB 278/SB 427

House author: Rafael Anchia, D-Dallas

Senate author: Florence Shapiro, R-Plano

What's in them: Joint bills set a goal of 2,000 megawatts of renewable "distributed generation," or power generation on the customer side of the electricity meter, by 2020 and 1,000 megawatts by 2015. They also require electric utilities to offer incentives for distributed generation.

ihavebeenseen
23 April 2009, 08:37 AM
http://www.solarindustrymag.com/e107_plugins/content/content_lt.php?content.2986



Texas Senate Approves Solar Incentive Fund

in News Departments > Policy Watch
by SI Staff on Wednesday 22 April 2009


The Texas Senate has passed S.B.545, a measure aimed at moving Texas to the forefront of solar energy generation in the U.S.

Over the next five years, the bill would create a $500 million incentive fund to offset the capital costs of distributed solar power - mostly for residential rooftop panels, as well as for utility-grade solar power. Funds would be raised through monthly surcharges on electric bills - $0.20 for residential users, $2.00 for commercial users and $20.00 for industrial users.

The money will go toward rebates for homeowners who wish to install panels on their houses, and the Public Utility Commission will use the fund to incentivize the construction of large-scale solar complexes. Other provisions in the bill would prohibit homeowners associations from banning solar installations in most cases, and would require that homebuilders offer solar as an option to their customers.

SOURCE: Texas Senate

LH_Newbie
23 April 2009, 01:15 PM
Is this on top of the Fed rebate + Oncor rebate? Depending how much is offered per watt, this could be the piece that makes solar economically viable in the DFW area.