Political Theory and the demise of Dallas

[hamiltonpl]

Did you happen to read my prior post about how the mentally ill, the homeless and the poor southern people allow themselves to be used by others as the butt of jokes? I know that I can always depend on my friends in therapy. Can you say the same? The homeless will always laugh at anything for a buck. They are truly cool people. Poor southern people always have a foot in poverty and that is what makes them so wonderful. BBRD (Bring Back Roller Derby)

I have often wondered why poor southern people were poor. It seems as if we describe them as poor, they are poor. As if it were a preordained conclusion. Like people with fuzzy dice don't drive BMWs. Or the JFK assassination.
:bday:
NASCAR.

[mikedsjr]

It is widely known that air conditioning vents are the typical means by which the Illuminati transfer the mind-altering toxic gas;;;;;

Sounds like someone been trying this out on themselves.

[warlock55]

First we have to ask ourselves the question, "what is an uptownite?" Well, an uptownite is someone who will never allow themselves to be used as the butt of a joke. They always demand to be taken seriously. If you want to know the opposite of an uptownite, the inverse if you will, you will have to go on the other end of downtown to the area called "Farmer's Market." Here you will find people who are never taken seriously because they are always willing to laugh at themselves. These uneducated people are the very end of the butt because they are depicted as naturally prejudice, they perform daily the menial task of growing food and they often marry their cousins. Yet outside of the homeless and the mentally ill, these backwards, southern people are the only ones left in society who are willing to laugh with everyone else about themselves. I have a dream that one day no one will allow themselves to be the butt of the joke. We will all live in a perfect world of equality without humor.

OMG, he knows where I live. :eek:

Is roller derby really gone? I agree that it should be brought back if it is.

[trolleygirl]

Hey Mr. "Nifty"....

I am at the Windmill Lounge right now, getting slightly inierererbbrrrhreated..... *hickup*

AND! AND! I am in a "sssseeedy" area.. SHHH I'm not drink....I men drunkk!

It's on Maple at Denton Drive. Pretty cool... We're listening to some groovy lounge music. I think some people live in Uptown but I KNOW that Cowboy Dave lives in Ellis County and I'm pretty sure he handles rough stock.....hmmmmmmm. The owners here are Parkies. Then the patrons, OH THE PATRONS! They all live in Uptown and SLUM it on Lower Maple!!!

[hamiltonpl]

Lithium.






That is all.




BID.

[MisterNifty]

Hey Mr. "Nifty"....

I am at the Windmill Lounge right now, getting slightly inierererbbrrrhreated..... *hickup*

AND! AND! I am in a "sssseeedy" area.. SHHH I'm not drink....I men drunkk!

It's on Maple at Denton Drive. Pretty cool... We're listening to some groovy lounge music. I think some people live in Uptown but I KNOW that Cowboy Dave lives in Ellis County and I'm pretty sure he handles rough stock.....hmmmmmmm. The owners here are Parkies. Then the patrons, OH THE PATRONS! They all live in Uptown and SLUM it on Lower Maple!!!

That sounds both dangerous and adventuresome! Be careful, please. Did you know that you can rent a professional guide who will lead you on your many voyages into the surrounding wastelands of Dallas? That is right, beloved uptownites! You don't have to just look at Dallas from your balconies any more! We have a package right now going to the Dallas zoo. (Paid for by 'Safaris of Uptown')

[Haretip]

I'm not nearly normal, but:

The poor are about to multiply all over the globe, so much so that the oppressed masses will revolt and overthrow the ruling elite, culminating in a planetary golden age in which poverty will become a thing of the past.

The dust-bin of human history will for once contain the dreams of the downtrodden and the dreams of Jesus, even if the market doesn't like it.

Gold will be as worthless as the paper dollar, the paper yen, the paper Mark and the paper pound. A jerk with money will be equivalent to a jerk without capital, and a saint with a portfolio will be equivalent to a devil who never knew the difference.

So goes the current song.

Who gives a damn doesn't, and those who don't wont care. Everything is upside down, perfect for the re-imagination of the perfect society, nevermind the senators and the house as priests, nevermind the president as daddy rule-giver, the notion of democracy will be known to those who carry it out, and the means of disseminating information and ideas will be understood by enough of the fools who live in less than dirty and ignorant conditions that they finally get the difference between the hammer on the head and the hand on the hammer.

There is no cable that leads you from this place to the next; there is no kiss or helping hand, or a book you can read or a sexy girl to lead you, nor will you find an owner's manual with cute pictures and the number for technical support. You are a big girl or boy, and if you like the lies because they make you feel good about yourself, then you are a liar, and since like attracts like, you are not honest, and you are on your own.

They are licking their lips, waiting for you. Its a hot place for hot people.

[jdwillis]

I think this observation will fit in well with the general theme of the discussion.

A fellow I've known for a fair number of years once related the following story. After finishing up a stint in the Navy, he went back to his father's farm. It was a pig farm that was upwind of the home place. Upon complaining to his father about the smell of all the hogs and their unavoidable by-products, and how it wouldn't be so bad if they were moved to the field on the other side of the house and therefore downwind, his father replied, "Son, don't you know that smell?" The son allowed as how yes, he knew what that smell was and described it to his father in somewhat colorful terms. The patient father then carefully spelled it out for his obviously impaired boy. "Son, that's the smell of money!"

[MisterNifty]

I'm not nearly normal, but:

You are not normal on one hand but more than normal on the other yet not normal whatsoever.


The poor are about to multiply all over the globe, so much so that the oppressed masses will revolt and overthrow the ruling elite, culminating in a planetary golden age in which poverty will become a thing of the past.

The people of Oak Cliff are going to flood into the uptown area to overthrow the ruling uptownites. There will be much happiness afterwards because all fees to the Dallas Art's district will be waved.


The dust-bin of human history will for once contain the dreams of the downtrodden and the dreams of Jesus, even if the market doesn't like it.

The dreams of the downtrodden, this would be to purchase tickets to the weekend drag races and to buy lots of beer, and the dreams of Jesus, this would be for world peace, will be fulfilled. Of course, the market never cares about anything and never has.


Gold will be as worthless as the paper dollar, the paper yen, the paper Mark and the paper pound. A jerk with money will be equivalent to a jerk without capital, and a saint with a portfolio will be equivalent to a devil who never knew the difference.

Gold will become more common than paper making it worthless. The good education that one receives in business will have absolutely no value in the real, evil world of business.


So goes the current song.

General information. The common belief amongst the masses.


Who gives a damn doesn't, and those who don't wont care. Everything is upside down, perfect for the re-imagination of the perfect society, nevermind the senators and the house as priests, nevermind the president as daddy rule-giver, the notion of democracy will be known to those who carry it out, and the means of disseminating information and ideas will be understood by enough of the fools who live in less than dirty and ignorant conditions that they finally get the difference between the hammer on the head and the hand on the hammer.

Great run on! A good thought expressed in the stream of consciousness. "Snap! Snap!"


There is no cable that leads you from this place to the next; there is no kiss or helping hand, or a book you can read or a sexy girl to lead you, nor will you find an owner's manual with cute pictures and the number for technical support. You are a big girl or boy, and if you like the lies because they make you feel good about yourself, then you are a liar, and since like attracts like, you are not honest, and you are on your own.

You are a big boy. You have no one to blame but yourself. Take responsibility. Stop lying to yourself! Quit living in denial. Quit complaining. Do something about it.


They are licking their lips, waiting for you. Its a hot place for hot people.

The whole world is powered by sex and reproduction. After they are finished they will light you up and smoke you.

[MisterNifty]

I think this observation will fit in well with the general theme of the discussion.

A fellow I've known for a fair number of years once related the following story. After finishing up a stint in the Navy, he went back to his father's farm. It was a pig farm that was upwind of the home place. Upon complaining to his father about the smell of all the hogs and their unavoidable by-products, and how it wouldn't be so bad if they were moved to the field on the other side of the house and therefore downwind, his father replied, "Son, don't you know that smell?" The son allowed as how yes, he knew what that smell was and described it to his father in somewhat colorful terms. The patient father then carefully spelled it out for his obviously impaired boy. "Son, that's the smell of money!"

The Hispanics have a saying that they eat every part of the pig even to the point that they chew its anus like bubble gum. My uncle John's older brother, Uncle Bill, received all of their father's hogs in his Will when he passed away. My uncle John really got screwed and literally worked himself to the point that he eventually died of a broken back. My uncle Bill was indeed living high off the hog. When we drove past his hog farm we would yell out "Suey!" and those hogs would come thundering across their large pen. About 300 of them in total.

[Haretip]

Ah, the hook was set and yet the bait is only a dream from a different sleep. Your Aunt was wise to mark your chest with the scarlet dung. And though you try to clean it, the odor lingers. I have played this game before and now that I have measured its length, I shall play no more.

[MisterNifty]

Ah, the hook was set and yet the bait is only a dream from a different sleep. Your Aunt was wise to mark your chest with the scarlet dung. And though you try to clean it, the odor lingers. I have played this game before and now that I have measured its length, I shall play no more.

Sorry, but I feel that you despise me because I was born in Oak Cliff. I think we should try to improve our strained relationship by creating a cultural exchange program to better brisdge our upper and lower class distinctions. Perhaps we could tour uptown in one of your world famous trolly cars while later I could show you the Trinity River bottoms of deep South Dallas in my monster truck?

[trolleygirl]

Sorry, but I feel that you despise me because I was born in Oak Cliff. I think we should try to improve our strained relationship by creating a cultural exchange program to better brisdge our upper and lower class distinctions. Perhaps we could tour uptown in one of your world famous trolly cars while later I could show you the Trinity River bottoms of deep South Dallas in my monster truck?

Oh SHUT UP already, you are making me tired!!! And it's 2am and I'm getting irritated!!!!

So you were born in Oak Cliff. Big Friggin Deal. I live in South Dallas. Shut the hell up. It's a big wide world and you're not the the only one in it. Get a life.

[Haretip]

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[DalLove444]

Oh SHUT UP already, you are making me tired!!! And it's 2am and I'm getting irritated!!!!

So you were born in Oak Cliff. Big Friggin Deal. I live in South Dallas. Shut the hell up. It's a big wide world and you're not the the only one in it. Get a life.
Just hit the ignore button. I did. :)

[downtownguy25]

This thread has been over done. Its a waste of time but thats why I come to this site. When your therapist told you to talk about your insecurity issues, I think they meant you talk to a real person not an online forum. Go to a bar, tip the bar tender well, tell them your issues and if you tipped well enough they may act like they care.

[MisterNifty]

Oh SHUT UP already, you are making me tired!!! And it's 2am and I'm getting irritated!!!!

So you were born in Oak Cliff. Big Friggin Deal. I live in South Dallas. Shut the hell up. It's a big wide world and you're not the the only one in it. Get a life.

I didn't realize it was so late there sweety. I'm going to start posting earlier so that you don't have to stay up so late. There is no shame in living in South Dallas. Some of us are born into such parts of town. With hope one day we will all win the lottery so that we can all afford to live in uptown.
I would shut up right now but I am not talking. Silly. :)

[downtownguy25]

There is no shame in living in South Dallas. ...With hope one day we will all win the lottery so that we can all afford to live in uptown.


My friends modest home in oakcliff is more expensive than my highrise condo in downtown.

[trolleygirl]

I didn't realize it was so late there sweety. I'm going to start posting earlier so that you don't have to stay up so late. There is no shame in living in South Dallas. Some of us are born into such parts of town. With hope one day we will all win the lottery so that we can all afford to live in uptown.
I would shut up right now but I am not talking. Silly. :)

Um....no. You don't get to call me "sweety". There is only one person on the planet who gets to call me that and, unlike me, she has better things to do- like play in the rat race and earn a modest living so that she can take vacations to exotic places like South Carolina to visit friends- than I obviously do as I kill time on online forums waiting for her to get home at 2am.

And FTR- and if you bother to visit other threads on this forum then you'd know this- I am far from "ashamed" to live in South Dallas. Quite proud of it, in fact and I have worked very hard over the years to make my corner of the world a better place for everyone. And by "better" I mean safer, more accessible, healthier, you know, the things that modest people who work for a living care about. PS- I don't play the lottery and am offended by your assumption that people who live in poor South Dallas pin all their hopes and dreams on winning the lottery so that they can have a chance at moving into Uptown- as if we really care about that. Shows your arrogance in your thinking about people who live in poor South Dallas. My neighbors and I battle crime and drug dealing to protect our investments- not so that we can one day have the opportunity to live in Uptown. We have unique history, large lots, cohesiveness; we are a true neighborhood and we come together to work on our common issues and we share our lives with one another- we are more than neighbors, we are friends and extended family, we look after each other and care for one another's children. You can't find that synergy in many places and no, not really in most of Uptown either.

I have worked in Uptown for many, many years, even directed the trolley for several years, and I have watched it change and grow. And a rising tide helps all boats. I'm hapy that some areas in Dallas increase their tax bases so that it evens out the burden for the rest of us, it's how a city works. And I for one don't see that Uptown is surrounded by "slums" but rather, other interesting areas of Dallas. So what? Uptown used to be Dallas' Red Light District and somewhere in Dallas, someone looked down their noses from balconies from somewhere (or did they???) toward the area that was known as "Frogtown" for many years. Be happy that it's risen as one of Dallas' hottest markets- that's the very essence of what makes Dallas such a truly unique place; fortitude of the people who make it be better than what it was, what it could be, what it's destined to be, and what it shouldn't be expected to be. THAT's why Dallas is great.

(also, Mr Nifty, most of the people who live in Uptown aren't smart enough to frequent this forum and aren't giving enough to care about the quality of life in Dallas.... that's why you're not getting an audience in here, because you haven't contributed to a solution to a perceived problem; you've just gone on this rant about some obscure political theory as if you just read it in a book. And we don't really "get" the angle from where you seem to be coming, other than you loathe Uptown and see it as the epitome of Evil Dallas or some damn thing.)

Can we rename this thread "Mr Nifty hates Uptown"?

[trolleygirl]

Sorry, but I feel that you despise me because I was born in Oak Cliff. I think we should try to improve our strained relationship by creating a cultural exchange program to better brisdge our upper and lower class distinctions. Perhaps we could tour uptown in one of your world famous trolly cars while later I could show you the Trinity River bottoms of deep South Dallas in my monster truck?

Haretip doesn't live anywhere near Uptown, he doesn't even live in Dallas County. AND he drives a big 'ole truck too and I've seen it- it's pretty muddy. (I don't think they ALLOW big muddy trucks in Uptown) Plus, he's been to the Trinity River bottoms before, in fact I'm pretty sure he knows it well, pretty sure he's done some surveying work out there.

And, I have to know, where were you taking your monster truck in the Trinity River bottoms of Deep South Dallas? I'm pretty sure that four-wheeling is illegal down there. Did I call you into the City Marshall's office once? Do you have a red truck?

[hamiltonpl]

Moderators,

Please merge this with the "IDIOTS" thread.

Thanks,
Me

[MisterNifty]

Um....no. You don't get to call me "sweety". There is only one person on the planet who gets to call me that and, unlike me, she has better things to do- like play in the rat race and earn a modest living so that she can take vacations to exotic places like South Carolina to visit friends- than I obviously do as I kill time on online forums waiting for her to get home at 2am.

And FTR- and if you bother to visit other threads on this forum then you'd know this- I am far from "ashamed" to live in South Dallas. Quite proud of it, in fact and I have worked very hard over the years to make my corner of the world a better place for everyone. And by "better" I mean safer, more accessible, healthier, you know, the things that modest people who work for a living care about. PS- I don't play the lottery and am offended by your assumption that people who live in poor South Dallas pin all their hopes and dreams on winning the lottery so that they can have a chance at moving into Uptown- as if we really care about that. Shows your arrogance in your thinking about people who live in poor South Dallas. My neighbors and I battle crime and drug dealing to protect our investments- not so that we can one day have the opportunity to live in Uptown. We have unique history, large lots, cohesiveness; we are a true neighborhood and we come together to work on our common issues and we share our lives with one another- we are more than neighbors, we are friends and extended family, we look after each other and care for one another's children. You can't find that synergy in many places and no, not really in most of Uptown either.

I have worked in Uptown for many, many years, even directed the trolley for several years, and I have watched it change and grow. And a rising tide helps all boats. I'm hapy that some areas in Dallas increase their tax bases so that it evens out the burden for the rest of us, it's how a city works. And I for one don't see that Uptown is surrounded by "slums" but rather, other interesting areas of Dallas. So what? Uptown used to be Dallas' Red Light District and somewhere in Dallas, someone looked down their noses from balconies from somewhere (or did they???) toward the area that was known as "Frogtown" for many years. Be happy that it's risen as one of Dallas' hottest markets- that's the very essence of what makes Dallas such a truly unique place; fortitude of the people who make it be better than what it was, what it could be, what it's destined to be, and what it shouldn't be expected to be. THAT's why Dallas is great.

(also, Mr Nifty, most of the people who live in Uptown aren't smart enough to frequent this forum and aren't giving enough to care about the quality of life in Dallas.... that's why you're not getting an audience in here, because you haven't contributed to a solution to a perceived problem; you've just gone on this rant about some obscure political theory as if you just read it in a book. And we don't really "get" the angle from where you seem to be coming, other than you loathe Uptown and see it as the epitome of Evil Dallas or some damn thing.)

Can we rename this thread "Mr Nifty hates Uptown"?

There are two metaphorical places in this world and they are both represented in Dallas -- the city of the red horse :afire: . The top 2% of the world, these would be the international citizens who commute about the air on planes, are represented by the uptownites in Uptown while the other 98% of the overly populated masses, burdened American citizens who have to live on the ground, are represented by the Oak Cliffers in Oak Cliff --sometimes referred to as deep south Dallas. While tourists passing through the city get the impression that the city is growing because lots of money are just being spent on the infrastructure of central Dallas, the rest of the people living in the uncomely parts surrounding the city are the ones truly paying for such corruption -- let us all remember that governments will always feel that they need twice the amount of money necessary to get jobs done in corrupt fashions. (The state alone just got through passing 650 laws to make more money off the poor). If the rich were taxed and penalized for all the wonderful stuff being built in their fabulous uptown neighborhood, they would quickly move back out into the suburbs again. In this case they would move to Las Colinas. Does this not sound like a reasonable argument?
Sorry if I mixed my metaphors.

[MisterNifty]

Haretip doesn't live anywhere near Uptown, he doesn't even live in Dallas County. AND he drives a big 'ole truck too and I've seen it- it's pretty muddy. (I don't think they ALLOW big muddy trucks in Uptown) Plus, he's been to the Trinity River bottoms before, in fact I'm pretty sure he knows it well, pretty sure he's done some surveying work out there.

And, I have to know, where were you taking your monster truck in the Trinity River bottoms of Deep South Dallas? I'm pretty sure that four-wheeling is illegal down there. Did I call you into the City Marshall's office once? Do you have a red truck?

I don't have a red truck, no, but I am worried about what all those make-believe bridges are going to do to my off-roading along the Trinity River bottoms. And what about all the hog hunting that I do down there? I've heard the city is considering raising taxes even further so that they can build fake ships to go under all those pretty, ornamental suspension bridges when they get finished.

[MisterNifty]

My friends modest home in oakcliff is more expensive than my highrise condo in downtown.

Last month while trying to count the numerous 13 to 17 story buildings in uptown, there are 16 of them by the way, I was interupted by what sounded like a pretty woman. I figured she just needed directions and being that I am a gentleman originally from the deep south of Oak Cliff, I went to oblige her. Upon approching the woman I was horrified at her appearance. Apparently she was just a homeless person and her makeup while covering the deep wrinkles of her face upon closer look took on a very messy appearance . This is how Dallas truly is. Uptown is just makeup. It covers up a lot of past and present neglect by the city government. The solution is simple but painful. The city needs to see that it is time to turn the corner and stop spending so much on the infrastructure of the central city. Instead they need to concentrate more on the rest of the city. Free enterprise should keep uptown booming even when less social money is being built on its infrastructure.

[trolleygirl]

There are two metaphorical places in this world and they are both represented in Dallas -- the city of the red horse :afire: . The top 2% of the world, these would be the international citizens who commute about the air on planes, are represented by the uptownites in Uptown while the other 98% of the overly populated masses, burdened American citizens who have to live on the ground, are represented by the Oak Cliffers in Oak Cliff --sometimes referred to as deep south Dallas. While tourists passing through the city get the impression that the city is growing because lots of money are just being spent on the infrastructure of central Dallas, the rest of the people living in the uncomely parts surrounding the city are the ones truly paying for such corruption -- let us all remember that governments will always feel that they need twice the amount of money necessary to get jobs done in corrupt fashions. (The state alone just got through passing 650 laws to make more money off the poor). If the rich were taxed and penalized for all the wonderful stuff being built in their fabulous uptown neighborhood, they would quickly move back out into the suburbs again. In this case they would move to Las Colinas. Does this not sound like a reasonable argument?
Sorry if I mixed my metaphors.

Huh? You bring up some interesting points that belong on an entirely other thread, but why did you respond to my quote? Are we reading from the same book?

[trolleygirl]

Last month while trying to count the numerous 13 to 17 story buildings in uptown, there are 16 of them by the way, I was interupted by what sounded like a pretty woman. I figured she just needed directions and being that I am a gentleman originally from the deep south of Oak Cliff, I went to oblige her. Upon approching the woman I was horrified at her appearance. Apparently she was just a homeless person and her makeup while covering the deep wrinkles of her face upon closer look took on a very messy appearance . This is how Dallas truly is. Uptown is just makeup. It covers up a lot of past and present neglect by the city government. The solution is simple but painful. The city needs to see that it is time to turn the corner and stop spending so much on the infrastructure of the central city. Instead they need to concentrate more on the rest of the city. Free enterprise should keep uptown booming even when less social money is being built on its infrastructure.

Uptown isn't the wealthiest part of town by any means. That distinction goes to Preston Hollow (I'm intentionally excluding the Park Cities.) Before 20 years ago Uptown was very neglected. The reason why we need more infrastructure in Uptown now is because it is becoming so dense. More people flushing toilets in one area, and we need bigger sewer lines. We can't make McKinney Ave. any wider so we have to make the area as pedestrian freindly as possible and provide convenient transit. It's real simple. It's not at the "expense" of other parts of the City. What comes at the expense of other parts of the city are tax abatements and TIF's given away to wealthy developers. If I we can't afford basic maintainence on our parks, it's not because more people have moved into Uptown- in fact, the opposite is true- the more moving into Dallas, the more tax $$ to the general fund, more $$ to fix stuff around town. If you don't like the way Oak Cliff seems to be getting shafted in the infrastructure maintenance department, then talk to your council person!!! Besides, of the council's "priorities", Uptown is not on the list, sweety. It's free enterprise working.

[MisterNifty]

Uptown isn't the wealthiest part of town by any means. That distinction goes to Preston Hollow (I'm intentionally excluding the Park Cities.) Before 20 years ago Uptown was very neglected. The reason why we need more infrastructure in Uptown now is because it is becoming so dense. More people flushing toilets in one area, and we need bigger sewer lines. We can't make McKinney Ave. any wider so we have to make the area as pedestrian freindly as possible and provide convenient transit. It's real simple. It's not at the "expense" of other parts of the City. What comes at the expense of other parts of the city are tax abatements and TIF's given away to wealthy developers. If I we can't afford basic maintainence on our parks, it's not because more people have moved into Uptown- in fact, the opposite is true- the more moving into Dallas, the more tax $$ to the general fund, more $$ to fix stuff around town. If you don't like the way Oak Cliff seems to be getting shafted in the infrastructure maintenance department, then talk to your council person!!! Besides, of the council's "priorities", Uptown is not on the list, sweety. It's free enterprise working.

I don't consider such areas as the Park Cities and Preston Hollow as parts of Dallas. Most of the people in those cities live in the international community and they have an agenda that goes well beyond just the local concerns of Dallas.
As mentioned in a prior post, I consider Uptown to metaphorically represent the top 2% of society while Oak Cliff represents the other 98%. There just isn't enough nutrition going into the rest of the city of Dallas as a whole figuratively speaking. There are only spots of health here and there. Still the whole system works by taxing (penalizing) the poor. Dallas is just cosmetically pretty. She is running off of 5 and 10 year plans just as the socialist nations of China and Russia once did.

[MisterNifty]

Huh? You bring up some interesting points that belong on an entirely other thread, but why did you respond to my quote? Are we reading from the same book?

While attending a superior southern university for my education, I learned in my government class that the main function of a government is to perform garbage collection. Now the main function of the local government of Dallas today is to collect as much money as possible while they cut back on all those civil services that were once taken for granted.
Since when did the notion become popular to give the city a lot of money? Isn't this against the theory of capitalism? The citizens of Dallas need to quit handing over their hard earned money so easily to the government of Dallas. They need to buy things that will help the private sector and then let the public sector get back to the business of collecting it as garbage when it wears out.

[MisterNifty]

Moderators,

Please merge this with the "IDIOTS" thread.

Thanks,
Me

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[downtownguy25]

This thread has been over done. Its a waste of time but thats why I come to this site. When your therapist told you to talk about your insecurity issues, I think they meant you talk to a real person not an online forum. Go to a bar, tip the bar tender well, tell them your issues and if you tipped well enough they may act like they care.

MisterNifty, I have a very good therapist I can suggest you to, or a bar or two.

[downtownguy25]

Perhaps Dallas needs a slap to get back in line. Last night, I was denied access to two bars for what I was wearing. I was not allowed to go into obar because I was wearing shorts, then after I put jeans on, I was not allowed in candle room because I had flip flops on. Come on Dallas, its a weekday night, both bars were half empty and its the middle of summer. I have never had an issue being served in Dallas before for what I was wearing. Nove, Texas Club and Bobs are just a few places that are nicer than the two bars and do not care what you wear. Oh also what is up with cabbies having a fist fight over waiting in line? Talk about quick responce time as well, before I even had a chance to dial 911, a police car pulled up, then mins later 2 more.

[downtownguy25]

http://www.quickdfw.com/poplife/weekendq/stories/DN-pop--candleroom_30ick.ART.State.Edition1.42a7c5b.html

Humm, guess they forgot to add no flip flops under what to wear.

[MisterNifty]

Perhaps Dallas needs a slap to get back in line. Last night, I was denied access to two bars for what I was wearing. I was not allowed to go into obar because I was wearing shorts, then after I put jeans on, I was not allowed in candle room because I had flip flops on. Come on Dallas, its a weekday night, both bars were half empty and its the middle of summer. I have never had an issue being served in Dallas before for what I was wearing. Nove, Texas Club and Bobs are just a few places that are nicer than the two bars and do not care what you wear. Oh also what is up with cabbies having a fist fight over waiting in line? Talk about quick responce time as well, before I even had a chance to dial 911, a police car pulled up, then mins later 2 more.

Although Uptown is spiffier than it ever was before with its people mingling late into the night until they stumble home to throw up on their dogs, Oak Cliff is just altogether a cooler place to hang out. First off, Oak Cliff is far more the multi-cultural place to party. If you happen to be out on the hunt late at night prowling for a life partner, come to southeast Dallas where more cultural flavors exist to choose from. So drive across the Trinity and pay us a visit. Wear shorts and flip-flops if you so desire.
Oh, you won't have to worry about police in Oak Cliff because people here are too poor to own a lot of materialistic things. The criminals who live here typically leave the area late at night to commit crimes in wealthier parts of town.

[downtownguy25]

Although Uptown is spiffier than it ever was before with its people mingling late into the night until they stumble home to throw up on their dogs, Oak Cliff is just altogether a cooler place to hang out. First off, Oak Cliff is far more the multi-cultural place to party. If you happen to be out on the hunt late at night prowling for a life partner, come to southeast Dallas where more cultural flavors exist to choose from. So drive across the Trinity and pay us a visit. Wear shorts and flip-flops if you so desire.
Oh, you won't have to worry about police in Oak Cliff because people here are too poor to own a lot of materialistic things. The criminals who live here typically leave the area late at night to commit crimes in wealthier parts of town.

The funny thing, is neither place I was denied access to were in uptown.

On the hunt for a life partner, I dont date people for over 6 weeks. After 6 weeks they tend to care and like me.

Not all crimes are due to materialistic things. The one I saw last night just had to do with a cabbie cutting in front of another cabbie.

[MisterNifty]

MisterNifty, I have a very good therapist I can suggest you to, or a bar or two.

Thank you for that information, downtownguy25. Did you know that we have a new art movie house over here in Oak Cliff? It is called the Texas Theater and it is now showing the classic hit "Bubba Fever" again for a limited engagement. It is a steamy romance about a promiscuous Uptown woman who likes to scratch an itch by driving over to the other side of the Trinity River to visit a trailer house owned by a southerner named Bubba. The second feature is called "The Day of the Elderly!" This original movie begins innocent enough with the U.S. government spraying around the area of Uptown in an attempt to poison all the homeless who wander in and about the area. Unbeknownst to the hapless government, the ingredients in the spray have the opposite effect as intended as they actually land onto bedridden elderly people in nearby nursing homes causing them to become energized. These old folks then rebel against their medication as they start climbing forth from out of their beds to wander in and about the streets of Uptown. Well! As you can only imagine, the Uptownites next flee in horror as they first mistaken these elderly folks as homeless people. I recommend that you take your sweety along with you to watch this horror classic because she will certainly be frightened and hanging all over you.

[downtownguy25]

I recommend that you take your sweety along with you to watch this horror classic because she will certainly be frightened and hanging all over you.

What ever happened to life partner?

[MisterNifty]

What ever happened to life partner?

Oh yes. Please excuse me. You could take either your sweety or your life partner. We are very open minded over here in Oak Cliff.

[trolleygirl]

Perhaps Dallas needs a slap to get back in line. Last night, I was denied access to two bars for what I was wearing. I was not allowed to go into obar because I was wearing shorts, then after I put jeans on, I was not allowed in candle room because I had flip flops on. Come on Dallas, its a weekday night, both bars were half empty and its the middle of summer. I have never had an issue being served in Dallas before for what I was wearing. Nove, Texas Club and Bobs are just a few places that are nicer than the two bars and do not care what you wear. Oh also what is up with cabbies having a fist fight over waiting in line? Talk about quick responce time as well, before I even had a chance to dial 911, a police car pulled up, then mins later 2 more.

Um, question: Do you wear flip-flops at Bob's? I'm pretty sure the Maitre'd cares what you wear into Bob's and I think that she's kicked out people for that.

[MisterNifty]

Um, question: Do you wear flip-flops at Bob's? I'm pretty sure the Maitre'd cares what you wear into Bob's and I think that she's kicked out people for that.

Normally normal people can't wear flip-flops into Bob's, yes. In the meantime, trolleygirl, I think you will find this article very interesting.

Cannon ball falls well short of Uptown
By Jack Rathman / The Dallas Mourning Zoo
Rathman@Newzoo.com
In what can only be described as a major disappointment, a test firing today of Oak Cliff’s only military weapon delivered a cannon ball well short of its intended target of Uptown -- an internationally famous bastion for tyranny.
“Yep. It just flew half way towards the buildings and fell harmlessly into the Trinity,” said acting Commander and Chief, General Jack Jolly.
The failed test was a major disappointment for the 2 million or so hopeful who assembled to watch the impending destruction of Uptown.
“We were really hoping to kill all them @#!bastards over there,” screamed Mrs. Milton over what was now an out of control mob of booing and hissing.
Meanwhile, it was just another day in Uptown as business went on as normal for the 5,000 or so who live there.
“Those people on the other side of the Trinity River should have been more serious when they went to school. They should have paid more attention to their conduct during that crucial time in their lives. They should have studied harder to make better grades,” pointed out acting Uptown Mayor Mike Marshmallow upon learning about the intended destruction of his neighborhood, “then they wouldn’t have to suffer living out such an impoverished lifestyle of manual labor.”
After retrieving it later on from the river, further inspection concluded that the ingredient of fodder was forgotten to be stuffed around the cannon ball before it was fired from the cannon.
It will take a lot of worthless fodder to deliver this cannon ball to Uptown, “said General Jack Jolly metaphorically, “we will schedule another test for next week.”

[trolleygirl]

That's lovely and all.... why don't you just start a new thread, "Uptown vs. Oak Cliff"?

[MisterNifty]

That's lovely and all.... why don't you just start a new thread, "Uptown vs. Oak Cliff"?

You don't have to tell me that I'm not in touch with reality, Trollygril. That is why I'm going to therapy and taking medication. The problem I have with real reality though, the reality written by Uptownites that is, is that it interprets the vast majority of us in Dallas as living in squalor. Therefore, although my medication has helped with most of my mental problems, I still choose to delude myself into believing that my Oak Cliff is better than Uptown. That is my right as a mental patient according to my therapist.
There is something about the raw poverty over here in Oak Cliff, Trollygirl. The screeching of tires, those shots that come out from nowhere, the lonely screams in the dark that cry for help and those scary crowds who hang around the housing projects while drinking malt liquor. This is what makes a real neighborhood fascinating.
I also like thinking of myself as a multi-cultural sophisticate, Trollygirl, because I get out on the freeway in my unconditioned car here to sweat and scream with my minority brethren. Please don't take offense that I love my part of town and hate others who don't.

[DalLove444]

My GOSH!! Cant bear to read more of Lil' NiftyPants' posts! Im all for starting a new thread, perhaps, "Niftmanship Against Urbanization" -:P

[MisterNifty]

My GOSH!! Cant bear to read more of Lil' NiftyPants' posts! Im all for starting a new thread, perhaps, "Niftmanship Against Urbanization" -:P


The land of Uptown represents the old idea, DalLove444. This antiquated notion is based on the fallacy that you have to know a lot or be rich enough to visit everywhere in order to be interesting enough to edit content. But this scheme has globally warmed our world with fiction novels, DalLove. Our landfills runneth over with the romantic misconception that one cannot combine learning with sweating. We can no longer weave together the fabrics of our arrogant society because sewing is, lets face it, a menial task of a housewife. We have become smothered by our skyscrapers of knowledge. Content today has become so deep that no one knows who is in control of the spigot. We can no longer be serious about anything because 9 out of 10 commercials are funny. Pain itself has become humorous. We have become so smart and sophisticated that we have lost the ability to read and recognize a simple smile.

Indeed, DalLove. Muhammad did say "don't tell me what you know, but tell me where you have been. Still where has Muhammad gotten us, DalLove? Isn't the earth suffering from solar cooling because of global travel? Besides, aren't his followers blowing themselves up?

We over here in Oak Cliff don't need to know any more than a smile, DalLove. We don't need to travel anywhere. Oak Cliff is the metaphorical center of the universe.

[trolleygirl]

You don't have to tell me that I'm not in touch with reality, Trollygril. That is why I'm going to therapy and taking medication. The problem I have with real reality though, the reality written by Uptownites that is, is that it interprets the vast majority of us in Dallas as living in squalor. Therefore, although my medication has helped with most of my mental problems, I still choose to delude myself into believing that my Oak Cliff is better than Uptown. That is my right as a mental patient according to my therapist.
There is something about the raw poverty over here in Oak Cliff, Trollygirl. The screeching of tires, those shots that come out from nowhere, the lonely screams in the dark that cry for help and those scary crowds who hang around the housing projects while drinking malt liquor. This is what makes a real neighborhood fascinating.
I also like thinking of myself as a multi-cultural sophisticate, Trollygirl, because I get out on the freeway in my unconditioned car here to sweat and scream with my minority brethren. Please don't take offense that I love my part of town and hate others who don't.

.....that I'm driving myself crazy trying to do so many things at once and that I should consider taking a break to try a personal life. So I quit all of my civic stuff- including heading up my neighborhood association in South Dallas (far, far away from the Cliffs), and now I limit my civic engagement to this forum. And to voting, natch.

I don't think that anyone in Uptown perceives "everyone in Dallas" as "living in squalor". I am a multi-cultural "sophisticate", not because I get in my unconditioned car to sweat and scream with the minorities in Oak Cliff (as if OC is the only place in Dallas where poor minorities live...), but because I actually have friends who are (gasp) minorities. You wax about the poverty that you see in OC, you try to be among the poor minorities as if observing poverty and living in OC somehow makes you more enlightened than the planners and architects and community activists and public servants who put verbs in their speeches and actually do those things that make a difference.

By-the-way, don't get too cozy over there because OC is on its way to full-scale gentrification. If you really want to impress me with your sweating and screaming among the great unwashed, then pick up your s**t and move on over to Pleasant Grove.

And, for the record, my minority friends and neighbors in South Dallas have air-con in their cars and homes, and as far as I know, they don't scream about anything except drugs in the parks, speeding cars and random gunfire, and they limit that type of screaming to Crime Watch meetings. Other than that, they are model citizens, caring for their families and working their jobs so that their kids have a chance at a better life....it's called the American Dream. And instead of fleeing to Uptown when they get a chance, they either opt for suburbs for the schools, or stay and add on to their houses. But hey, Mr Nifty, I do appreciate your broad assumptions about the entirety of fully half of the City living south of I-30. Thanks for speaking up for me and the other 30 neighborhood associations in SoThro. Maybe I should try going without air-con for a day so that I know what it feels like to live in OC. On second thought, I'll just drive to Uptown and hop on one of those hot streetcars instead. At least there's a Starbuck's or to over there....

[mikedsjr]

That's lovely and all.... why don't you just start a new thread, "Uptown vs. Oak Cliff"?
The wealthy always win these fights because they can money whip the poor.

[MisterNifty]

.....that I'm driving myself crazy trying to do so many things at once and that I should consider taking a break to try a personal life. So I quit all of my civic stuff- including heading up my neighborhood association in South Dallas (far, far away from the Cliffs), and now I limit my civic engagement to this forum. And to voting, natch.

I am speaking of perception here, Trollygirl. Not reality. There are certain perceptions that one develops while sampling assorted wafers and sipping international teas from balconies of Uptown condominiums. If you are arguing that such views are skewed . . . well . . . I totally agree.


I don't think that anyone in Uptown perceives "everyone in Dallas" as "living in squalor". I am a multi-cultural "sophisticate", not because I get in my unconditioned car to sweat and scream with the minorities in Oak Cliff (as if OC is the only place in Dallas where poor minorities live...), but because I actually have friends who are (gasp) minorities. You wax about the poverty that you see in OC, you try to be among the poor minorities as if observing poverty and living in OC somehow makes you more enlightened than the planners and architects and community activists and public servants who put verbs in their speeches and actually do those things that make a difference.

In the future, Trollygirl, such "enlightened" planners, architects, community activists and public servants will pass laws and regulations designed to penalize the vast majority of us into severe poverty so that we can no longer afford to pollute the earth by buying things and traveling to other places. Unless you are a member of the chosen generation -- one who is born into a super rich family, has a job working for the government which provides a prerequisite of health insurance (at any cost) or has received social security before the system went flat out bankrupt -- you won't be able to afford to pollute any longer. So Oak Cliff becomes an inward spiritual sanctuary for the vast majority of us to meditate on in order to escape from such a cruel future. It becomes a transcendent antithesis to the outward, materialistic Uptown.


By-the-way, don't get too cozy over there because OC is on its way to full-scale gentrification. If you really want to impress me with your sweating and screaming among the great unwashed, then pick up your s**t and move on over to Pleasant Grove.

The same happened in Uptown some 20 years ago, Trolleygirl, and the process eventually uprooted all the minorities. Does gentrification mean doing away with anything that isn't new and anglo? Does everything need to be so planned and structured? The value of Oak Cliff is the spontaneity it gets from its raw poverty.

Pleasant Grove is the land of the "untouchables." As you already know, the untouchables were considered less than even a worm to the ruling Hindus of India to the point that they didn't even count. They weren't even part of the process to where they could be reincarnated as a worm. As a result, the only jobs obtainable for such untouchables was to clean the toilets of the Hindus. Likewise, one just cannot see deep south Dallas from an Uptown balcony.


And, for the record, my minority friends and neighbors in South Dallas have air-con in their cars and homes, and as far as I know, they don't scream about anything except drugs in the parks, speeding cars and random gunfire, and they limit that type of screaming to Crime Watch meetings. Other than that, they are model citizens, caring for their families and working their jobs so that their kids have a chance at a better life....it's called the American Dream. And instead of fleeing to Uptown when they get a chance, they either opt for suburbs for the schools, or stay and add on to their houses. But hey, Mr Nifty, I do appreciate your broad assumptions about the entirety of fully half of the City living south of I-30. Thanks for speaking up for me and the other 30 neighborhood associations in SoThro. Maybe I should try going without air-con for a day so that I know what it feels like to live in OC. On second thought, I'll just drive to Uptown and hop on one of those hot streetcars instead. At least there's a Starbuck's or to over there....

I think you are preaching to the choir, trollygirl. My argument here is that it is better to live in the antithesis of Uptown, this would be the metaphorical "Oak Cliff," than it is to waste away in the sterility of the mythological land of "Uptown." Even Dorothy came to this conclusion, trollygirl. There is no place like home and Oak Cliff is the epitomy of it.
We don't need to change the general perception in Dallas, Trollygirl, but the misperceptions that are created from an Uptown balcony. Just because a person can see a black person or a Hispanic person from their balcony through the lens of a pair of binoculars does not mean that they actually have a black friend or a Hispanic friend. I have actually bumped into such people and touched them in real life, Trollygirl, while in the heat of battle to purchase the best bargains down at the many local flee markets we have here in Oak Cliff. It is no longert about black or white with me, Trollygirl. Things have acrtually evolved to the point that it isn't just a racial issue. In fact, the last person to give me the finger on an Oak Cliff freeway was a little old white woman. Things are changing here for the better.

[jdwillis]

In fact, the last person to give me the finger on an Oak Cliff freeway was a little old white woman. Things are changing here for the better.


Is that all it takes to make things better? How does that reasoning work?

[MisterNifty]

The wealthy always win these fights because they can money whip the poor.

My attitude is to never interfere with the flow of entertainment. The fountainhead of entertainment begins at the point of editing -- this would be Manhattan Island -- where it gets flushed towards the polluting chemical plants of New Jersey. As this sewage continues on it gushes out towards the smokey factories of the midwestern heartland or into the primitive badlands of the single toothed hillbillys. From there it oozes out into the wilderness of the vast frontier of the wild west or gets lost in the depths of the deep, d-e-e-p south.
The point here is that it becomes pornographic -- in that it fails to get to the womb of any meaning. Information becomes stopped up along the way and becomes quite filthy.
One does not fix this problem by focussing on the place of origin -- the fountainhead -- for this never works and leaves one as impotent as it gets. The best solution is to expose the premise by showing how rediculous it is when reasoned out all the way to its utter means.
In other words:
Conclusion: Southern farmers are prejudice because they have to live more in solitude while growing food. Nothern people are not prejudice because they have an education which allows them to survive in more populated areas.
I have been away for awhile, beloved forum members, because I had to be committed in order to adjust my medication. This will happen from time to time. I do hope that everyone has been doing well. :)

[downtownguy25]

I have been away for awhile, beloved forum members, because I had to be committed in order to adjust my medication. This will happen from time to time. I do hope that everyone has been doing well. :)

Where did you go and what are you taking?

[MisterNifty]

Where did you go and what are you taking?

I am not taking anything in a recreational sense of the word, downtownguy25; rather, I am constantly under the influence of medication which makes me almost seem normal. Like I am now. This is a very subtle point most people don't understand. An insane mind is invisible to itself or, another way of putting it, only a crazy mind would actually understand that it is insane. I do have insights at times however that I am not behaving properly. You can probably tell by reading my prior posts that my medication was becoming ineffective. :wideyed1:

I would like to thank my beloved forum members for helping me reach 100 posts in this thread! :)