DTD | Arts District: Museum Tower (~560 FT. / 42 ST.) | V2.0

[CTroyMathis]

DTD | Arts District: Museum Tower (~560 FT. / 42 ST.) | V2.0

New start to an old thread.



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Archived version here:
DTD | Arts District: Museum Tower (~560 FT. / 42 ST.) | V1.0
http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=5163


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Current visuals of Museum Tower:
(Updated 30 Jun 10)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5527/mustwr001.jpg

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1360/mustwr002.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5645/mustwr003.jpg

FLV shorts. . .

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8961/mtnightmural.mp4.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mtnightmural.mp4) http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/329/mtopeningexteriors.mp4.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mtopeningexteriors.mp4) http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5815/mtpool.mp4.th.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mtpool.mp4)




(Updated 19 Feb 08)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2388/mtdallas020sp8.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1188/mtdallas021kr5.jpg



(Updated 16 Nov 07)

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8884/museumtowernew001iw1.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7500/museumtower010bj4.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6382/museumtower009mk8.jpg

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(Information in this section will be continually updated as needed also. . .)

Info:
Museum Tower
~560 FT. / 42 ST.
~$200M USD price tag.
~Late 2007/Early 2008 groundbreaking and/or construction start.
~Last Quarter of 2009 construction complete.
125 residences.
Each floor is just under 10,000 square feet with private elevators to each residence.
There will be a maximum of four residences per floor.

POC:
Dana Gray Rosen | drosen@briggs-freeman.com | 214-954-1234 | 972-949-2932
. . .I'm sure there are more. . .

Website:
MT | http://www.museumtowerdallas.com

Alternate websites to keep an eye on for more info and/or visuals:
Brook Partners | http://www.brookpartners.com
Johnson Fain Partners | http://www.johnsonfain.com
Booziotis & Company Architects | http://www.booziotis.com
Bodron + Fruit | http://www.bodronfruit.com
Green Grass Studios | http://www.greengrassstudios.com


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History: A little bit of insight into this sites recent past:
Past proposals that may or may not include everything that had ever come to light over the past 25 years.

1980s. . .

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/292/artsdistricttowersite80qp3.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=artsdistricttowersite80qp3.jpg)


Late 1990s - Early 2000s. . .


http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=356

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=357

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=358

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=359


Plus, here's an old grainy early 2000 photo of the site with a sign. . .

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=360


Mid 2000s. . .

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3372/artsdistricttowersitedeeo0.th.gif (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=artsdistricttowersitedeeo0.gif) http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1639/museumtower1op8.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=museumtower1op8.jpg) http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9664/museumtower2pp7.th.jpg (http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=museumtower2pp7.jpg) http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7113/museumtower3iz0.th.jpg (http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=museumtower3iz0.jpg) http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3801/museumtower004he2.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=museumtower004he2.jpg)



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Some recent news:



Arts District condos offer the high life in a high-rise
Developers to offer luxury amenities
11:33 PM CDT on Thursday, June 14, 2007
By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News | stevebrown@dallasnews.com
Link: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/061507dnbusartsdistrict.36d22ba.html

Developers hope their new condo skyscraper will be a standout in Dallas' downtown Arts District.

To buy into the ultramodern high-rise, residents will need to come up with $1 million for the smallest unit.

The 42-story condominium building is planned to overlook the new Woodall Rodgers park and will be constructed on Olive Street next to the Nasher Sculpture Center.

At 560 feet tall, Museum Tower is planned as the tallest totally residential building in town.

"It will transform the city's skyline," said Dan Boeckman, one of the partners in the project. "This will be another great piece of architecture in the Arts District."

The $200 million cylindrical tower was designed by Los Angeles architect Johnson Fain. The exterior of the high-rise is composed of three kinds of glass panels that will overlap like the scales on a fish.

The condo building is to contain between 100 and 125 residences, with some units taking entire floors. The smallest is around 1,500 square feet. . .

More at link. . .



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Keep this thread as well all threads civil and on topic (flexibility can be productive, however, wild tangents are disruptive and will be removed).

[slfunk]

^Ctroy.. Nice little summary on the history of the site. I have to say I am thankful the Corgan design did not go forward!

[eburress]

I said it on Skyscraperpage and I'll say it again here, this is a FREAKING AWESOME tower! This is the perfect tower for that spot and could be the most beautiful tower ever built in Dallas. This is exactly what Hunt and Arts District towers SHOULD have been.

Congatulations Dallas! What an AMAZING building!

[dallasrookie]

Nice... High Five !!!

Wondering how this building will contribute to the skyline at night?

[GuerillaBlack]

Four residences per floor? Nice. Like I said in the last thread, this is one nice tower. A lot better than the previously proposed towers for this spot. I wonder how it would light up at night.

[cowboyeagle05]

By looking at skyscraperpage.com (http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?28442060) this tower height (560ft or 170.68800 meters )will fit between Cityplace Tower(560.03937 ft or 170.7 meters) and Adams Mark Hotel Center Tower(549.868766 feet or 167.6 ft )

ANother words it will be 15th or the 16th tallest in Dallas

[AZDallasite]

By looking at skyscraperpage.com (http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?28442060) this tower height (560ft or 170.68800 meters )will fit between Cityplace Tower(560.03937 ft or 170.7 meters) and Adams Mark Hotel Center Tower(549.868766 feet or 167.6 ft )

ANother words it will be 15th or the 16th tallest in Dallas

Is that including Victory Tower?

[GuerillaBlack]

Yeah, I am wondering that as well. How tall is Victory Tower?

[Rob]

The title of the Victory Tower thread says ~650 feet, 43 stories.

[cowboyeagle05]

Is that including Victory Tower?

No since Victory Tower was not on Skyscraperpage.com I didn't include it nor the possible Corrigan Tower replacement that hasn't announced a height or a design yet of course.

[cowboyeagle05]

Please forgive me I had to . . .

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9099/dallasdevelopyg4.jpg

Now I have somewhere to put my Hat!

[frankchitown]

Please forgive me I had to . . .!

No, really, you didn't. It looks like a roach in an Easter Basket.

[AZDallasite]

it looks like a pez dispenser

[MarkL2023]

This building contrasts soo much with the look of trammel crow, san jacinto, and jpmorgan chase. Looks A LOT like a taller azure with less blue glass. Very excited about the entire arts district!

[UrbanCyclop]

So how many years before they break ground?

[Rob]

Theoretically less than one.

[4th Generation]

That's going to look imposing (in a good way) before one goes under the Woodall Rodgers Park/tunnel.

[gc]

^Ctroy.. Nice little summary on the history of the site. I have to say I am thankful the Corgan design did not go forward!

Agreed. Thanks for the nice summary troy.

[CTroyMathis]

No problemo slfunk and gc.



(partial email included below)

Yes, the tower is 560’ tall.

I am so happy that you like the design.

The moment that I receive the collateral materials, I will forward them to you immediately.


Cheers.

[Kelley USA]

Did anyone else see the sweet ad on the back page of the business section in the DMN today? There is a pretty cool rendering...

[TexasStar]

Did anyone else see the sweet ad on the back page of the business section in the DMN today? There is a pretty cool rendering...

An absolutely amazing ad!

[Tnekster]

An absolutely amazing ad!

Can somebody post it?

[MarkL2023]

Funny thing is im starin straight at it and it says www.museumtowerdallas.com/DMN but i just tried that and it didnt work....whoops

[rantanamo]

This one?

http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/16622218http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/16622227
http://img.travidia.com/rop-sub/16622233

http://shopping.dallasnews.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=452497&adid=4684565&type=

[DFW]

If the tower is 540-ft to the top of 42nd floor then surly the final height is not going to be 560-ft its more like maybe 580-ft. to the very top.

[MarkL2023]

I thought that at first but if you look closely, the top three floors are slightly shorter than the height of the previous floors. Looks like itll be closer to 560 than 570 and def 680 in my eyes. That line in the middle may even be a good reference to compare it the the lower floors.

[frankchitown]

Yep, if the above diagram is correct it'll be @ 580, making it taller than Cityplace and peers with One AT&T and Lincoln Plazas

[DFW]

I just looked at it a bit more closer here and noticed that yes there are several other floors that are wider they are floors 3, 18, 19, 41 and 42. This tower may be closer to 600-ft.

[MarkL2023]

Are yall kidding. It marks the first 42 floors at 540 and the three on top of that are smaller than the avg floor beneath it. There is NO possible way it would be closer to 600 feet. yes some floors are wider before that but yalls calculations seem to be WAY off.

[MarkL2023]

Not to mention the designers said its 560

[Rob]

Not to mention the designers said its 560

Well what they hell do they know?

[frankchitown]

When they say 560', are they talking about roof height or structural height? The 42nd roof is 540, then there's the upper terrace level and the remainder of the glass. From the scale of the rendering, it looks to be more than 20' from the 42nd fl roof to the pinnacle.

[eburress]

Regardless, it is one HOT tower! I seriously get wood looking at it!

[UrbanCyclop]

This tower looks amazing!

[RuggerAl]

eburress hope you're able to get that under control before the building gets built it may prove difficult to drive or walk or work with a view of the bldg, lest we start using you as a compass! yeah thats hot!

[eburress]

^^ Fortunately I live in San Diego, but yes, once that thing gets built (and I'm in Dallas), I will need to be careful! :)

[MarkL2023]

Looks like we should have floor plans shortly.....

Mark,
Thank you so much for your inquiry.
We are finalizing floor plans and collateral materials.
I will send them to you the moment that I receive them.
The building is truly spectacular; 42 stories of luxury residences in the true heart of the art’s district on an acre of green space.
Are there any questions that I might answer?
Our marketing center is opening the week of July 23rd.
May I set up an appointment with you for that time?
Best,
Dana

Dana Gray Rosen
Vice President
Museum Tower
214-954-1234
972-949-2932 vm
drosen@briggsfreeman.com
www.museumtowerdallas.com

[Geaux Tigers]

^He forgot to ask if you got $1,000,000 to drop on a condo.

[downtownguy25]

^He forgot to ask if you got $1,000,000 to drop on a condo.

Dana would be a She not a He.

[AZDallasite]

^ I used to work with a "he" who was named Dana

[Kelley USA]

Dana Carvey!

[Geaux Tigers]

Dana would be a She not a He.

I figured I had about a 50/50 shot.

[Gibson]

http://www.briggs-freeman.com/associates_page.asp?profile=133

[Geaux Tigers]

Unless my eyes are mistaken, that Dana is a she. Oh, and she is a hell of alot hotter than Dana Carvey.

[rosewood]

Darlings,

Just jetted back from the future and wanted to share this picture with you all! Taken from the W WoW Suite, which needed updating - so yesterday!

Rosewood.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/pullinbuddy/CIRQUE/DALLAS-SKYLINE.jpg

[dallasrookie]

[QUOTE=rosewood]Darlings,

Just jetted back from the future and wanted to share this picture with you all! Taken from the W WoW Suite, which needed updating - so yesterday!

Rosewood.

/QUOTE]
thanks rosewood for the rendering,

next time look me up :scatter:

[rosewood]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/pullinbuddy/CIRQUE/Cocktail-JET.jpg

[TowerGuy]

Darlings,

Just jetted back from the future and wanted to share this picture with you all! Taken from the W WoW Suite, which needed updating - so yesterday!

Rosewood.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/pullinbuddy/CIRQUE/DALLAS-SKYLINE.jpg

These apartments (The Jefferson) in the foreground are SO coming down!

[DallasMan]

^Why? B/c they happen to be reasonably priced housing near downtown and Dallas obviously can't handle that?

Ha. I'm glad they are there!

[psukhu]

These apartments (The Jefferson) in the foreground are SO coming down!

It is just a matter of economics. Eventually the opportunity cost of having low rise buildings will drive the need to replace them with something taller, allowing the property owner to add more square footage (capacity) in the same foot print (fixed cost).

Think of the costs of kicking out all the tenants, tearing down the old complex and building new tower(s). Think of all the lost revenue while this is going on. Then you have to factor in filling the new building(s) with tenants to get back to their present profit level. Eventually the opportunity cost of not building something new will surpass all of these costs, but I don't think it will happen for at least 15 to 20 years.