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shaun3000
04 November 2006, 01:37 AM
Well, who are you going to vote for?

ajmstilt
04 November 2006, 11:24 AM
I'm voting for Chris Bell... even tho he says he's going to fire me if elected :)

I just can't stand Govnor' Goodhair, foghorn leghorn is far too shrill to actually do anything, Kinky is a racist comedian in waay over his head. Chris Bell I actually like he might not yell and scream to get attention like the other candidates, but he's smart, and will be competant.

...and it seems liek decades since we've had a competent gov'nor of any party.

Geaux Tigers
04 November 2006, 11:44 AM
It didn't give me an option for "non of the above". I've already voted and went with the lesser of the evils...Rick Perry.

freewaytincan
04 November 2006, 04:03 PM
I'm going Kinky on election day.

frankchitown
04 November 2006, 05:18 PM
I'm going Kinky on election day.

If he's stealing your vote from Perry, great!

TheCDAllenGroup
04 November 2006, 06:42 PM
Rick Perry.

While Kinky Friedman certainly does possesse charisma, he's not sharp, and clearly doesn't present himself as an intellect. In addition, I am not quite sure he knows solidly what issues his potential governorship would engage for resolution, which by the way, leaves me shaking my head in bewilderment. In essence, he's "all talk".

Now, Strayhorn does appeal to me with her grandmotherly appeal. However, in regards to the issues at hand, she's doesn't quite fit the experience (at least in my mindset) prerequisite to address them feasibly.

Chris Bell wants to raise new taxes on the small business sector - so he was first off my list.

Perry is the only feasible choice.

psukhu
06 November 2006, 10:15 AM
"Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and country sermon attended by dozens of political candidates Sunday, said that he agreed with the minister that non-Christians will be condemned to hell."

From today's DMN: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110606dnTSWperry.351c57c.html

TheCDAllenGroup
06 November 2006, 10:49 AM
"Gov. Rick Perry, after a God and country sermon attended by dozens of political candidates Sunday, said that he agreed with the minister that non-Christians will be condemned to hell."

From today's DMN: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/110606dnTSWperry.351c57c.html

And your point is...? That what the Bible says, he's a Christian, and that is clearly stated in scriptures.

Here's one for you - This morning I woke up.

psukhu
06 November 2006, 11:24 AM
And your point is...?

He is sure to side with the Christian point of on any issues that come up. Something to consider when voting for him.

Topics such as evolution and alcohol laws come to mind.

tamtagon
06 November 2006, 11:40 AM
He is sure to side with the Christian point of on any issues that come up. Something to consider when voting for him.

Topics such as evolution and alcohol laws come to mind.

Rick Perry's personal beliefs about salvation versus eternal damnation should not have anything to do with running the government. I'm embarassed the Governor just told all the non-Christians they're going to burn in Hell.

Mballar
06 November 2006, 11:48 AM
With regard to Rick Perry and his comments about who's going to hell, I say to good-haired governor. . .YOU FIRST!!!

TheCDAllenGroup
06 November 2006, 11:57 AM
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tamtagon
06 November 2006, 12:30 PM
Salvation vs. eternal damnation? Clearly you're not familiar with the subject. Eternal damnation is a result of not receiving salvation.

Bless your heart.

TheCDAllenGroup
06 November 2006, 12:37 PM
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Boredkid
06 November 2006, 12:48 PM
Rick Perry's personal beliefs about salvation versus eternal damnation should not have anything to do with running the government. I'm embarassed the Governor just told all the non-Christians they're going to burn in Hell.

So you are saying you would rather not know the beliefs of someone you are voting for. I on the other hand want to be an educated voter and know as much as possible about the person I am voting for.

Boredkid
06 November 2006, 12:49 PM
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Quit posting then editing them. You had a valid point.

TheCDAllenGroup
06 November 2006, 12:51 PM
So you are saying you would rather not know the beliefs of someone you are voting for. I on the other hand want to be an educated voter and know as much as possible about the person I am voting for.

I agree - whether or not you think the candidate should use more decorum in public statements.

RobertB
06 November 2006, 01:29 PM
While I'm one of the resident Christians on the board, Perry's comments just make me shake my head.

Is he trying to bring glory to Christ? Making His message sound indistingushable from that of the Taliban isn't the way to do it.

Is he trying to help sinners find salvation? A politician telling them that they're on the path to Hell isn't going to convince anyone.

Is he trying to shore up his base among a perceived core constituency of the Republican Party? Maybe so, but I think evangelical Christians are starting to get tired of being led astray by those who call themselves followers of the Good Shepherd, but act more like friends of the wolves.

My faith is just that -- my faith. I believe in God the Father Almighty, in Jesus Christ his Son our Lord, I believe in the Holy Spirit. I also believe that God is greater than my understanding, and that I am in no position to judge those whose faith leads them to Him by another path. In my opinion, Christians need to spend more time reaching out to those whose faith has been lost, and less time assigning hellfire and damnation to those whose faith is different.

Agnus Dei
06 November 2006, 01:39 PM
As if I needed another reason to stay as far away from Perry as humanly possible. And I didn't think I could dislike the man more.

ajmstilt
06 November 2006, 01:43 PM
"it's your hell, you burn in it"

The Governor works for all texans not just Chirstians. But rick Perry has proven that he cares only for those Texas who can either line his pocketbook, (or vote for him to help him line his pocketbook)

I am not a Christian, but I am just as much a Texan as anyone else.

Mballar
06 November 2006, 02:09 PM
I could care less about how any of these candidates feel about who's going to hell or not. What I do care about is what plan each one has for addressing the "issues of the day," such as education, health care, crime, the enviornment, transportation, trade, the minimum wage, taxes affecting small/medium size businesses, and of course, the regulation/montoring/enforcement of the porous Texas border.

Now, after that, if you want to try to make some type of link between the candidate's belief's and character, and how that will ultimately translate into the candidate's propoensity to make good on his/her promises, then that's fine too. But, to blindly support someone because he/she states that he/she believes the same as you (assuming that somehow makes that candidate morally "right for the job") is just plain naive at best.

A person's stated belief in certain religious teachings DOES NOT make that person a moraly superior individual when it comes to character. It might make you think to yourself "Hey, that guy is like me and he/she's better than the other guy" or "that guy and I share the same beliefs so he'll probably do the things that I would do if I were in his position." Unfortuantely, the wolf is in sheep's clothing a lot more often than you think. A gentleman by the name of "Mike Jones" pointed that out again last week, for those of us who forgot, or never knew at all.

With that being stated, I humbly predict a run-off between Perry and Strayhorn/Bell.

TheCDAllenGroup
06 November 2006, 02:10 PM
In my opinion, Christians need to spend more time reaching out to those whose faith has been lost, and less time assigning hellfire and damnation to those whose faith is different.

I agree, but you know as well as I know that most people and this culture of "self-gratification" makes it so much harder to reach others with the Gospel. There are plenty of people who have already made it up in their minds that they simply don't want to hear about Jesus - they don't need God and are able to battle out life's problems on their own. That's the mindset of unbelievers - they don't want to hear it. They hate to hear Christians express their faith. But it's quite amazing how, for example, you can have a rap artist on all forms of media swear, cuss, and blaspheme everyone with words of explicitness - and no one bothers them. Or you can be from any other religion - Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu - no one will bother you. However, Christians in this country are mocked and humiliated when there is even a mere display of the faith. Not to mention that when a Christian public figure makes a mistake, the press and media have a field day with it.

But getting back on topic, Perry's statements are at least partially true (according to Scriptures), but lacking of decorum since he did not give reason to support his statements.

It's amazing how the media and non-Christians manipulate a candidate's faith to unsuccessfully bring about a reproach to their competence for the office they campaigning for, while simultaneously attempting to attack their faith. Ridiculous.

RobertB
06 November 2006, 02:16 PM
With that being stated, I humbly predict a run-off between Perry and Strayhorn/Bell.
Unfortunately, that won't happen. Whoever gets the most votes wins -- no runoff. That's why Perry's strategy has been to increase Bell's visibility -- so that he'll siphon off support for independents Friedman and Strayhorn.

It'll be the ultimate irony, won't it -- if the Democrats ride a wave of discontent to control of the House and (maybe) Senate in Washington, but the additional straight-D votes in Texas return the Republican to the Governor's Mansion.

Boredkid
06 November 2006, 10:44 PM
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X Factor
07 November 2006, 12:49 AM
Amen! I had tickets but couldnt make it... Im sad... Its going to be Rick Perry! Strayhorn is casting her self to be an Austin outsider. Ha.. just the opposite, Its hard to "shake" something up when your the former mayor and Texas Comptroller. Chris Bell is so far left hes almost off of the road! Supports the UN running our elections, I dont think so! Finally Kinky, I havent heard so much BS come from a politican since Bill Clinton's "sexual relations" speech! Give me a plan, and I would have supported him!

Geaux Tigers
07 November 2006, 10:13 AM
Yeah, Strahorn makes me laugh. She's an outsider? She's an independant? What a joke!!

TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 12:16 PM
Some women even made fun of my underwear...

Your what? :confused:

Boredkid
07 November 2006, 12:27 PM
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TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 12:33 PM
I thought you meant underwear in the non-literal, metaphorical sense.

TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 12:35 PM
Perhaps it was my fault I was the only one on the other side of the street with republican signs.

That makes two of us, if I hadn't moved already.

TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 02:21 PM
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tamtagon
07 November 2006, 02:26 PM
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I wish you would change your mind before you click the submit button.

TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 02:30 PM
I wish you would change your mind before you click the submit button.

No, it keeps messing up...what's wrong with it?

warlock55
07 November 2006, 02:47 PM
Anyone else go the the rally tonight? wow, I was bantered and almost beat a few times. Some women even made fun of my underwear... Perhaps it was my fault I was the only one on the other side of the street with republican signs. :cheers:

That was you?? Omg...

You should've known better than to say that the sidewalk next to Reunion was private property then. : P

Boredkid
07 November 2006, 02:53 PM
lol, they were stupid enough to believe me

vman
07 November 2006, 04:59 PM
And your point is...? That what the Bible says, he's a Christian, and that is clearly stated in scriptures.

Here's one for you - This morning I woke up.
I could care less what religion he is. But his faith is no stronger than someone else's that is Buddist, Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu. We tend to foget that just because you are profoundly certain of something, doesn't make you right, and just because you profoundly believe something, doesn't make it true. That was an insult to anyone that doesn't believe the way Perry does. It just shows what an idiot he is.

TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 06:25 PM
I could care less what religion he is. It just shows what an idiot he is.

Actually, what you mean is that you couldn't care less what religion he is. Think about it...


It just shows what an idiot he is.

I think you're the idiot for commenting on something that you state you have no regard for.

Tnekster
07 November 2006, 06:41 PM
Actually, what you mean is that you couldn't care less what religion he is. Think about it...



I think you're the idiot for commenting on something that you state you have no regard for.

Where is this thread going?

Boredkid
07 November 2006, 06:46 PM
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vman
07 November 2006, 06:50 PM
Actually, what you mean is that you couldn't care less what religion he is. Think about it...



I think you're the idiot for commenting on something that you state you have no regard for.
If you feel I have no regard for religion, that's fine. What I do have is respect for one's religious preference or ideas, even when his/her views differ from mine. And I'm not idiotic enough believe I have the one and only answer to something that noone can actually prove. In other words..how can I prove you're wrong, if I can't prove I'm right. When you can prove to me Perry's statement was right, I'll recant my comment. Until then, you can continue being an idiot by trying to defend the undefendable.

TheCDAllenGroup
07 November 2006, 07:38 PM
Until then, you can continue being an idiot by trying to defend the undefendable.

Again, you're the idiot. Who said I was defending anyone? I was just expressing concern for why you had the audacity to make a statement about something you supposedly you have no regard for.

See how your two statements are kinda silly?

Geaux Tigers
07 November 2006, 11:27 PM
I guess this isn't a very acurate polling sample.

DalLove444
08 November 2006, 04:08 AM
....Or you can be from any other religion - Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu - no one will bother you.
But getting back on topic, Perry's statements are at least partially true (according to Scriptures), but lacking of decorum since he did not give reason to support his statements.

It's amazing how the media and non-Christians manipulate a candidate's faith to unsuccessfully bring about a reproach to their competence for the office they campaigning for, while simultaneously attempting to attack their faith. Ridiculous.
Shame on you Snuggles, shame on you, you have absolutely no respect for people of other faiths or no religion at all. That is shameful!! As a gay man myself, im am so clearly disgusted with your comments!! :afire:

Agnus Dei
08 November 2006, 09:47 AM
I guess this isn't a very acurate polling sample.

Not surprising, though. (It was a nice thought while it lasted!)

However, Bell did win Dallas County. It'll be interesting to see if this trend continues.

Boredkid
08 November 2006, 10:03 AM
Shame on you Snuggles, shame on you, you have absolutely no respect for people of other faiths or no religion at all. That is shameful!! As a gay man myself, im am so clearly disgusted with your comments!! :afire:

I dont think your statement is correct. Snuggles comment has alot of truth behind it.

vman
08 November 2006, 10:19 AM
Again, you're the idiot. Who said I was defending anyone? I was just expressing concern for why you had the audacity to make a statement about something you supposedly you have no regard for.

See how your two statements are kinda silly?
Sorry, you're not an idiot, you're just stupid. Right, I don't care what religion Perry is...I don't care what religion anyone is. And since Perry is an elected public official, I have every right to comment on anything he says. It was the comment I take issue with, not Perrry's religion and when did I attack his faith. I attacked his comdemnation of people of different faiths to hell. And I'll say it again when you or Perry prove to me that all other faiths are going to hell as fact, and not just your belief, I'll recant. But until then, your just as stupid as he is.

But concerning the topic at hand. I voted for Bell yesterday. Not because I'm a democrat or that I especially liked him, but he seemed the lesser of four evils. Sad that the election has come to that for me.

TheCDAllenGroup
08 November 2006, 10:23 AM
I dont think your statement is correct. Snuggles comment has alot of truth behind it.

Thanks BK. My comments were taken completely out of context.

I respect people from all religions and faiths, but my statement was directed at the individuals in the press/media who make it personal agendas to attack Christians.

But getting back on topic - looks like Perry is back in office.

Justin Terveen
08 November 2006, 10:24 AM
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RobertB
08 November 2006, 10:25 AM
Where is this thread going?
"Where are we going, and what are we doing in this handbasket?"

Boredkid
08 November 2006, 10:31 AM
But getting back on topic - looks like Perry is back in office.

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