Victory Park: Projects + Construction | V2.0

[CTroyMathis]

Catch-all discussion on Victory Park development can continue here.


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3179/housebystarck0071uo.jpg


Retired thread is located here:
http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=62

Official website: http://www.victorypark.com
Direct link to a webcam: http://70.136.90.49/home/jviewer.html

Other links:

Victory Tower/Mandarin Oriental Int'l
Off-site: http://www.mandarindallas.com | http://www.mandarinorientaldallas.com |
On-site: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=4040

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The House
Off-site: http://www.thehouse.com | http://www.thehousebystarck.com | http://www.yooarehere.com
On-site: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=4214

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7763&stc=1&thumb=1


Cirque | Cirque II
Off-site: http://www.cirquevictorypark.com | http://www.cirquedallas.com
On-site: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=3437

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9652&stc=1&thumb=1


One Victory Park | Two Victory Park
On-site: This thread (Someone feel free to make a standalone thread as soon as digging commences.)

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6513&stc=1&thumb=1


The Terrace | The Vista
Off-site: http://www.theterracecondos.com
Off-site: http://www.vistadallas.com
On-site: This thread

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5991&stc=1&thumb=1


Victory Plaza
Off-site: http://www.victorymedianetwork.com
On-site: This thread

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W Dallas Victory Hotel & Residences
Off-site: http://www.victoryresidences.com
On-site: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=6117

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American Airlines Center
Off-site: http://www.americanairlinescenter.com/
On-site: All over the place

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House of Blues/White Swan Building
Off-site: http://www.hob.com/venues/clubvenues/dallas/
On-site: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=5283

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More will be added to this first post later. . .

[CTroyMathis]

Victory Park fly-through videos. . .

http://sjl-static7.sjl.youtube.com/vi/lOFgd_Ry8EE/2.jpg
Original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOFgd_Ry8EE




http://sjl-static14.sjl.youtube.com/vi/QtEvdYEGGKo/2.jpg
Music altered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtEvdYEGGKo

[gc]

Excellent summary Troy.

[Insidetheloop]

http://www.wfaa.com/victory/

Has a little bit higher resolution version of the same video. I have noticed that there are a few differences in the rendering versus reality. Most of what I noticed is that the sidewalks are much more narrow, about 30% in reality.

I wonder if WFAA still plans on opening their Victory studio in September. Other tenants are starting to build out their spaces on the east side. Quicksilver and the cigar bar are starting build out.

NOVE is supposed to open in November. Don't know if they can meet that. Lots of work to be done.

[Mephis Gooseberry]

http://www.wfaa.com/victory/

Has a little bit higher resolution version of the same video.


Its not the same. Completely different videos there. Ctroy's is much newer and up to date. The Victory Tower shown is the preliminary proposal, not the final one. One and Two Victory Park are not in the vid at all. There is no panarama of "The House" nor a zoom by of the Cirque.

[Mark Lea]

Isnt the mandarin building going to be a lot taller than the video showed. It looked about the same height as the W

[Mephis Gooseberry]

Yes over 200 feet taller.

[CTroyMathis]

BigD posted this in the W thread, so here it is for the Victory Park catch-all also:

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12513

[BigD5349]

^Oops, must've fat fingered on that, this is the thread that I intended to post in. Thanks Troy.

[txRNGr]

Looks better than I thought it would, I'm impressed. Should look nice next to the park once its completed. Thanks for the picture update BigD

[St-T]

^I love it... very classy. I would love to see a lot of the parking lots on the eastside of downtown filled with that type of development.

[DFW-LAX]

BigD posted this in the W thread, so here it is for the Victory Park catch-all also:

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12513

Which building is that?

[Boredkid]

Which building is that?

Terrace

[BigD5349]

Some pics from today...

1. The testing of the media system continues. Yesterday, I saw them scrolling credits, like you would see at the end of a movie.

2. The road between the W and the Vista is just about complete.

3. The Terrace, from the side facing the future Victory Park

[js]

That building is Victory Bldg. H the developer and construction crew is Fairfield. The same people are are working on Citiplace West II where the Hank Haney driving range is at on 75 next to the Mondrian.

It is looking real good. I have crews on both that building and the one to the left Bldg. F

[Tnekster]

That building is Victory Bldg. H the developer and construction crew is Fairfield. The same people are are working on Citiplace West II where the Hank Haney driving range is at on 75 next to the Mondrian.

It is looking real good. I have crews on both that building and the one to the left Bldg. F

When will they start letting residents move in?

[OneDallas]

That building is Victory Bldg. H the developer and construction crew is Fairfield. The same people are are working on Citiplace West II where the Hank Haney driving range is at on 75 next to the Mondrian.

It is looking real good. I have crews on both that building and the one to the left Bldg. F

Hillwood was in charge of design and Fairfield handled the construtionc. They are co-developers.

[Bryant]

The Terrace is an interesting mix of old and new architectural influences. It's a subtle blend of native Art Deco and cutting edge turn-of-the-century design. I think the building is tied together well using the pale color scheme that the entire Victory development is using. (imo)

[Tnekster]

First residents at condominium project come from Dallas, San Diego seeking luxury space, round-the-clock amenities, 'Friends'-like community
Dallas Business Journal - September 8, 2006by Sandra ZaragozaStaff Writer

Maybe because she spent her early childhood in rural Arkansas, Melinda Jones says she's always been awed by the skyscrapers of downtown Dallas.

She'll soon be awed every day, waking up to views of the Big D skyline from a glitzy condominium with floor-to-ceiling windows inside the $180 million W Dallas Victory Hotel & Residences project.

Jones, a 35-year-old vice president of marketing for Dallas-based LeadsOnline and LeadsOnlabs, will move into the W condos at Victory Park in October. She'll eventually be followed by her fiancé.

"I have a home in Highland Park," Jones said, "but the idea of moving to the (center) city is invigorating, despite my rural origins."

Jones is part of the first wave of residents -- empty nesters, single professionals and young marrieds, 20% of them from out of state -- who have bought or put under contract condos at the W. What unites them is a yearning for posh city life, plus the ability to afford a front-row seat at one of the most ambitious developments in the city.

Victory Park, Hillwood's mixed-use project anchored by the American Airlines Center just north of downtown, will morph over time into a bustling neighborhood with office workers, shoppers and residents.

Original estimates were for 61 condo units in the W project's 33-story north tower -- the residences sit atop the W Hotel -- and 83 units in a 15-story south tower, though those numbers are changing as buyers reconfigure some of the spaces.

About 80% to 85% of the units are under contract so far. Approximately 20 units have closed. And about a dozen residents already are living in the north tower. They include Jordan Mizrach, 34, who was the first to move into a high-rise pad there and still is the only person on his floor.

Wanted to be first
Mizrach, who works at the Park Place luxury car dealership in Dallas, was living in a high-rise condo on Turtle Creek Boulevard when he heard W was coming to town. He decided immediately to move.

"I wanted to make sure that I had a good choice of unit," he said. "There's a lot going up around Victory. My goal was to be there first."

W condo owners like Mizrach will have some personally invested neighbors.

Among them: Victory developer Ross Perot Jr., who, in addition to a W condo, has a private helipad at the top of the hotel. Hillwood Capital President Jonas Woods, who is leading the Victory project, also will have a W condo.

The W Hotel's principal architect, Eddie Abeyta of Dallas-based HKS Inc. -- he created the glass and concrete building's ultra-modern design -- has taken a condo in the W's south tower, where move-ins start next month.

Abeyta's colleague Nunzio DeSantis, principal in charge of HKS, purchased a condo in the north tower as a second home for entertaining family and friends.

Do the architects have any "insider knowledge" about the project?

"We know underlying things that make it special," Abeyta said. For example, "how (the building) relates to the arena, and how its balconies interface with the streets and the plaza."

Added DeSantis : "This building speaks to you, whether you're driving or walking by curbside. That's why we are so proud of it."

For most condo buyers, the reputation of the 251-room W Hotel for upscale service was an instant lure.

But perks like 24-hour concierge service aren't secured easily. Owners at the project paid from $500,000 for a one-bedroom unit, to $2.7 million for a three-bedroom unit. Penthouse owners invested about $1.5 million to $3 million per unit. Prices per square foot for the remaining units, which range in size from 1,100 to 5,100 square feet, run from $450 to $800.

Jones checked out other high-rise luxury condos, including the Ritz-Carlton and Azure, before settling on the W's south tower.

"My father had a great love for room service, and it ruined me," she said. "I work quite a bit and travel some, so having a 24-hour staff to handle things really appealed to me."

In addition to first-rate guest treatment, W residents have access to the Craft steakhouse, the Ghostbar nightclub, the Bliss Dallas spa and an infinity pool, all located in the hotel.

Mizrach says his decision to buy at the W is affirmed regularly. After hitting the Katy Trail for a daily jog, he says, the hotel's staff is there to greet him when he returns home.

"That has been the best thing so far," he said. "It's a nice touch to have bottled water and a towel waiting for me after running."

Fallon Pastore and her husband Bill Pastore, both 61, had been looking to leave San Diego for Dallas when Fallon discovered the W condos while searching online. She says she already feels spoiled by the hotel services.

The Pastores have owned condos at several high-rise buildings, including the Trump World Tower in Manhattan.

"I think my apartment here is much more beautiful," Fallon said. "I don't think people in Dallas realize what a nice city they have.

"Downtown is going to sparkle when the freeway is covered with parkland, the Calatrava bridges are in and the museum districts gets the opera house," she said. "This is going to the best place in the United States for urban living."

The only downside so far, Pastore says, is that her car gets dusty from all the nearby construction.

Jones, meantime, hopes she's trading a more isolated homeowner's existence for a "Friends"-style way of life -- one that will include hanging out at "a favorite coffeeshop."

Echoeing the sentiments of her fellow residents, she says Victory Park "can become a community faster than a normal suburban layout could."

szaragoza@bizjournals.com | 214-706-7113

[BigD5349]

From today...

Today was the first day that I've seen full motion video on one of the media screens. These were taken in bright, direct sunlight, so I would suppose it represents a worst case situation for viewing.

They look great. The marching skeletons reminded me of being in the Video Bar in Deep Ellum during the late 1980s. ;)

[BigD5349]

More pics from yesterday & today.

Now, as you can see, they are testing the media screen inside the plaza. I still haven't seen them move yet.

They are also tearing up the concrete inside the plaza. Maybe the water fountains will be history afterall?

[Rob]

I've been brought on to help animate a motion piece that will find it's way onto the screens eventually. I've gotten the impression that the screens won't be moving nearly as much as our imaginations make us think they will.

[BigD5349]

It's Friday afternoon, and time to get paid.

Luckily, the handy dandy check cashing van will come right into the Victory development and take, er, I mean give you your money -- right on the spot! I'm sure that since gas prices are down, they pass those savings along to their customers.

[kenc]

They are also tearing up the concrete inside the plaza. Maybe the water fountains will be history afterall?

I noticed that today too..I love working fountains, but since the plaza buildings went up there is no room in that public plaza! The fountains took up all the space.

[BigD5349]

Another couple of perspective shots of the plaza buildings... it's now possible to walk the length of the W along the interior street without someone yelling at you, at least in the evenings. They are finishing out the retail space along the street.

[maconahey]

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[maconahey]

more from the one arts plaza webcam...

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[clipper]

Old Victory Plaza had fountains.

[Tnekster]

That is the best shot we have had of Cirque. Looks like they are on the 8th floor if my counting is correct.

[maconahey]

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[Tnekster]

Look at all those parking lots. Although I guess most of them are taken for development. Can't wait until that fills in.

[cowboyeagle05]

Numerous Links

The AFI Dallas Website
http://www.afidallas.com

The AFI Website
http://www.afi.com/

The Official Press Release
http://www.afidallas.com/press/AFIDALLAS.pdf

Official Email from VCity Newsletter
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[cowboyeagle05]

Photos from the phone V3 Razr

Cirque
http://static.flickr.com/89/249302679_ae5ab63979.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamaddington/249302679/)

Terrace
http://static.flickr.com/90/249302693_91fa427e7b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamaddington/249302693/)

dubya hotel
http://static.flickr.com/97/249302711_7bbfad6c01.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/williamaddington/249302711/)

I know they hurt to look at since most of yall have better cameras but I enjoyed walking down there from the West End Station to see the new sites!

[maconahey]

not sure if this has been posted or not...

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when is this supposed to start?

[Tnekster]

It's been posted before but it's always good to see it again. I think they are waiting to lease up some of the space before they start.

[clipper]

More white buildings.

[eburress]

More white buildings.
Why can't they just be buildings that happen to be white? There's no need to get all racial up in here. :)

[Boredkid]

You guys are so predictable, You love it one min, hate it the next, then freak out because of the colours, then love it, then get tired of it.

[gc]

You guys are so predictable, You love it one min, hate it the next, then freak out because of the colours, then love it, then get tired of it.


Not me bro. I love it all. If Bid D was all Art Deco....I'd love it....all modern...the same!

[eburress]

You guys are so predictable, You love it one min, hate it the next, then freak out because of the colours, then love it, then get tired of it.

I don't know about anyone else, but I REALLY like these new buildings! :)

[Mark Lea]

i just wish the were more suburban

[Mephis Gooseberry]

Why can't they just be buildings that happen to be white? There's no need to get all racial up in here. :)

Are you positively sure they aren't bleached? They may have an issue with their facade color or they might have a color leaching disease, maybe they just want to be like all the other white buildings. I'd be careful taking your male children anywhere near.

[tamtagon]

Just wondering if these are the kinds of building appearances that will be painted or receive a different skin treatment in 25-50 years, and then later on, some redeveloper comes along and it's, like, all cool to restore the exterior to the original late 2000s style.

[Dallas#1]

I don't know about anyone else, but I REALLY like these new buildings! :)I agree

[Insidetheloop]

A few times this past week in the evenings they have been running the large video screens. It must have been Tuesday night, they had all the screens going at sunset and the screens filled the whole area between the buildings with a vibrant red color. It was impressive.

Now that construction is really flying, I'm liking Victory more and more. I like the bright white clean lines. I will miss the vacant feeling down there when I have the place to myself in the evenings. When everything is open there it will attract people like moths to a bug zapper.

Anyone know when Kenichi is opening? They look like the most likely to open next.

[frankchitown]

Wow, ITL, I think that was the most positive post I've ever read from you...either you're not feeling well or you must've gotten some this weekend.

[Insidetheloop]

^ When I came running around the corner into the plaza the whole place was colored in a translucent bright red glow.

It was like the final scene from Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind except Goldfrapp was being played. Loud.

Anyone that saw that, not expecting to see it, would have been impressed.

[maconahey]

I can't quite tell from the webcam, but it looks like they might be putting up one of the screens on the media tower.

[HarryMoto]

Is there an opening date yet for Victory Plaza? Last I heard was December.

[elmstreetdallas]

Would be nice if they could have Victory Plaza ready for the first nationally televised Mavs game!