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21 December 2002, 01:31 PM
Article from Saturday's (12/21) DMN. It is a good effort market DART rail for purposes other than commuting to work. I'm not sure it truly compares to Manhattan, but it's a decent start.

DART rail puts the 'trip' back in shopping trip

12/21/2002

By MARIA HALKIAS / The Dallas Morning News

Can't make it to Manhattan for a Christmas shopping excursion? It's possible to recreate that feeling by shopping along the DART train line.

And it's just a $2 trip on an all-day pass that is a ticket to literally hundreds of stores accessible by the yellow-and-white trains in Dallas, Richardson, Garland and Plano.

"It's so easy," said Debra Polk, who took the DART train this week from her home in Dallas to Collin Creek Mall in Plano. "I had to do some Christmas shopping there. It was very convenient."

Riding the rails from downtown to the newest DART stop at 15th Street in Plano can provide a Dallas shopping experience to mimic anything New York can offer. For example:

• The windows at the downtown Neiman Marcus are all spruced up in their holiday best, just like the Macy's at Herald Square or the original Saks Fifth Avenue. (No snow is blowing in shoppers' faces, but flakes wouldn't look out of place, either.)

• West Village – at McKinney and Lemmon Avenues, a trolley ride away from the Cityplace station – may not be a twin for its namesake area in Greenwich Village, but it's got all the same ingredients – coffee and gelato shops, boutiques and candle-lit restaurants and loft apartments. It's also a century or two more contemporary.

• Mockingbird Station has the Soho feel, what with Urban Outfitters, Silver Moon and Virgin Megastore. A short walk across Mockingbird Lane leads to Whole Earth Provision Co. It's a mixture of what's been here a while and what's new.

• Lover's Lane isn't Prince Street, but the Central Market there rivals the Dean and DeLuca grocery at the Broadway subway stop. No one is hawking men's cashmere coats from a rack on wheels out front, but there's a harmless homeless person or two.

• And the newest and farthest Plano stop at East 15th Street is so suburban it could be New Jersey. The old downtown has no national chain stores, just some antique shops, offices and a coffee shop, the kind that has the self-service, giant jars of malted milk balls and is decorated for the holidays.

No big deal

It's still a rare sight to see people loaded with shopping bags at DART rail stops, but for a growing number of area residents, shopping by train is no big deal.
Danielle Likan got on at Lovers Lane on Thursday morning for a quick trip to Target at Cityplace. "I needed a roll of wrapping paper and some CDs for gifts," said Ms. Likan, who added that the train is her preferred way of getting to her favorite stores.

Oralia Rojas is a DART shopping pioneer. She's been riding from Oak Cliff to NorthPark Center in Far North Dallas since the line opened in 1997, sometimes as often as twice a week.

"I'm retired, I have plenty of time and I come to NorthPark and eat in the cafeteria and walk and find some sales," she said lifting up a couple of shopping bags. "I was just scared of the train when it first came out, but my family took me on it, and I've been riding it ever since."

NorthPark marketing director Melody Kamp said the mall gets lots of convention center traffic from out-of-towners who are used to riding the rail at home.

"It's just how they get around in other cities," she said. "Now that the train gets you to more places here, maybe we'll all get used to it too."

The train allowed Ms. Polk to become something of an urban explorer. She said she was a bit surprised by what she found in Plano. The historic downtown looked "so country" to her.

Ethalia Jones of Dallas says she hasn't been north of Park Lane on the train yet and hadn't heard of West Village, even though it's only a five minute-walk from the Cityplace Station, where she often gets off to go to the movies at the Loew's theater a block away.

Ms. Jones, waiting for the 3:30 train Thursday at Park Lane, was carrying a Burberry plaid bag containing a few gifts for her daughter from the London-based chain's store at NorthPark.

Some reservations


She likes the train, but has reservations about using it for heavy-duty shopping. "I wouldn't ride the train if I was going to be buying a big load," Ms. Jones said.
Park Lane is the busiest station for shoppers, said DART spokesman Morgan Lyons. It's the stop for NorthPark, which is accessible by trolley, and within walking distance a Bed Bath & Beyond, TJMaxx, Best Buy and Oshman's.

DART train riders "migrated quickly to the familiar destinations they've known like a NorthPark," Mr. Lyons said.

When the CityPlace Station opened in December 2000, it caught on with riders too who were familiar with the nearby Target and the Loew's theater, he said.

West Village only opened last year, and "it will catch on too," Mr. Lyons said.

It's Dallas' newest shopping district, and its three-story faux-brownstone apartments do have a Manhattan feel. Plus, getting there by train beats parking, and the walk is refreshing.

bloodandpopcorn
21 December 2002, 11:50 PM
Great article! I rode the train to a meeting for the Asian Film Festival of Dallas today at Cafe Express, and yet again it was standing room both ways. And I did notice quite a few peopel with shopping bags. Maybe that occured thanks to this article? Either way, DART is getting alot of support, it seems, and Dallas is no doubt surprising all of its naysayers!

INTX dave
04 January 2003, 09:28 AM
I really enjoyed this article for its boosterism of DART, but I also found the attempt to compare Dallas to NYC a little embarrassing. As the article points out, DART can provide some "urban" shopping experiences. But any attempt for comparison to New York is laughable by both Dallasites and New Yorkers. Dallas should be proud of its accelerated advancements in mass transit, but it should not compare itself to New York. Dallas should be proud for being Dallas.

freewaytincan
06 January 2003, 01:40 AM
Embarassing it may be, but unlike some of us, a lot of people haven't ever been to NYC! And whatever pulls the suburbanites' heads out of other body orifices...

psukhu
06 January 2003, 02:29 PM
I am a former New Yorker living in Dallas and my friends from NYC come down to visit me on a regular basis.

New Yorkers are awestruck by our car related transit infrastructure like our massive freeways and highway interchanges. Things we take for granted, like dedicated “protected” turning lanes, are things that are not that common up there.

One time while living in NYC I went to Macy’s to buy a comforter for my bed. It was such a hassle to take it on the subway. Not to mention it was winter and I lived about 10 blocks from the station. It’s almost impossible to get a cab when the weather is bad. (Freezing rain that day). If I did manage to get one near Macy’s, it would have been a $15 cab ride home.

Down here I can hit ten stores in a single trip and keep the stuff I bought in my car as I continue to shop. I can also shop around for the lowest price because it is so easy to get from store to store.

NYC is a much better city to visit than Dallas, but I think the standard of living is so much higher in Dallas.

freewaytincan
07 January 2003, 12:30 AM
All that car stuff, we have paid for with not only dollars, but sanity and air quality. People are bad drivers, which is why I hate driving, as a surprisingly good teen driver. My dad lived in NY for about four years (he worked in the then unfinished North Tower WTC) and loved it. The transportation situation here is shockingly horrible. But then again, if you learn to drive here, with all this crap, you can drive anywhere.

bloodandpopcorn
07 January 2003, 09:39 AM
I agree that cars are defintly better for some types of shopping, but I doubt if most people's christmas shopping consists of huge things. I know that I tend to take a couple of saturdays and get maybe four bags full of clothes, shoes, soaps or perfumes for the women, DVDs, or CDs, and whatever I can't do with that, I'll order off the internet. That's what I do even with a car... And it wasn't an inconvenience on the train, either. Granted, I was ready to be home by the time I was riding back loaded up with gifts, but I'm every bit as ready to be home when I do it by car and take more time and have the anxiety of all the other terrible Dallas drivers on the road.

So yes, having cars is definitly a good thing in some cases, but for average Christmas shopping the train is fine.

psukhu
07 January 2003, 11:35 AM
Driving in Dallas is easy because much of the infrastructure was built around the car.

Driving in old cities like Rome or London is difficult by comparison. Those cities evolved around pedestrians.

The DART system should get better every year. It has the advantage of being new and having the developments evolve around the rail stations. (in most cases) I think DART is doing a great job attracting new riders.

freewaytincan
07 January 2003, 04:39 PM
Precisely. We are slaves to the automobile. In fact, I'm listening to a bunch of people here who can't even drive yet obsess over cars, here in my class. It's sad, it really is, and the problem just gets worse, because they get so involved. I don't even like driving!

downtownbum
18 January 2003, 06:38 AM
you need to take a road trip on a long stretch of deserted highway out in west texas. you will love driving then. the point as i take it is that oftentimes in a city like NY mass transit is used because people cannot travel any other way. with the dart train we are seeing what i think can become a best of both worlds scenario. i live downtown. if i want to go to the grocery store i can take the train up to mockingbird and shop at kroger. if i am going to be spending a hundred bucks on groceries, i would rather take my truck, load the groceries in the bed and drive back downtown. i like the option of doing either. and i am very surprised at how full the dart trains are at random hours of day or night (and try to get on one going out to plano at 4pm-- they are PACKED!)

downtownbum
18 January 2003, 06:39 AM
and i think we have more sanity and better air here than in NY

John T Roberts
21 January 2003, 11:47 PM
I must say that I do like the option to drive or to use DART. However, living in Fort Worth, I don't use the light rail as much as I would if I lived in Dallas. That said, I do try to use the Trinity Railway Express and DART Light Rail as much as possible. Since November of 2001, I have only made one entire trip to a destination in Dallas by automobile. Some of the excursions I have made have been entirely by rail, while others have been mixed. Usually drive to Downtown Dallas and park, then take light rail around town.