carousel
05-03-2007, 01:16 PM
activity at the north west corner of henderson and belmont. bulldozers are leveling the surface.
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clipper
05-03-2007, 01:19 PM
Phoenix Property Co. condos.
Tnekster
05-04-2007, 08:24 AM
Andres signs leases
Andres Properties has signed three leases for its retail redevelopment along Henderson Avenue in East Dallas.
The property investor is redoing several old retail buildings at Henderson and Capitol Avenue just east of North Central Expressway.
Fish City Grill and Pulcinella's Italian Restaurant will be tenants in the Shops on Henderson retail center.
And the Capitol Pub – owned by the same folks who have the Dubliner, the Old Monk and the Idle Rich bars – will open across the street in another building the developers are redoing.
"We are 40 percent preleased on both projects, with several restaurant and retail concepts vying for the remaining spaces," says Marc Andres.
"Both projects will be completed the beginning of June."
Andres Properties has signed three leases for its retail redevelopment along Henderson Avenue in East Dallas.
The property investor is redoing several old retail buildings at Henderson and Capitol Avenue just east of North Central Expressway.
Fish City Grill and Pulcinella's Italian Restaurant will be tenants in the Shops on Henderson retail center.
And the Capitol Pub – owned by the same folks who have the Dubliner, the Old Monk and the Idle Rich bars – will open across the street in another building the developers are redoing.
"We are 40 percent preleased on both projects, with several restaurant and retail concepts vying for the remaining spaces," says Marc Andres.
"Both projects will be completed the beginning of June."
KBilly
05-04-2007, 11:07 AM
..........
And the Capitol Pub – owned by the same folks who have the Dubliner, the Old Monk and the Idle Rich bars – will open across the street in another building the developers are redoing.
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Boy, ol' Feargal & Peter have themselves quite a little Irish empire going now... :2lol:
Our good friends at W2 Studio did the the finish out of the Idle Rich. I'll have to give them a call about this one.
And the Capitol Pub – owned by the same folks who have the Dubliner, the Old Monk and the Idle Rich bars – will open across the street in another building the developers are redoing.
........
Boy, ol' Feargal & Peter have themselves quite a little Irish empire going now... :2lol:
Our good friends at W2 Studio did the the finish out of the Idle Rich. I'll have to give them a call about this one.
carousel
05-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Phoenix Property Co. condos.
any renderings?
any renderings?
Lakewooder
05-09-2007, 02:48 PM
From dallasnews.com shopping blog:
The Porch: Tristan Simon does it again
Fireside Pies, Hibiscus, Cubra Libre ... Consilient Restaurants founder Tristan Simon (above) expanded his Henderson Ave. empire last night with a private launch for The Porch.
Simon told me that it is an "American version of a Parisian brasserie"--- with an emphasis on down-home-chic cooking.
We're just glad it's finally here. The Porch has been 15 months in the works after a whole series of zoning and logistical issues with its former Barley House locale that caused Simon at one point to dub it his "own private Iraq".
Well kids, if last night was any indicator, the effort was worth it. The BBQ slider sandwich was a tasty, messy delight, requiring no less than three vintage dish towel napkins, and the chilled blueberry martini, made with crushed, fresh fruit, left me resuscitated and pleasantly sociable.
But hey, find out for yourself. The Porch opens to the public tonight.
The Porch, 2912 N Henderson Ave. (across from Hibiscus), 214-828-2916
Posted by Christopher Wynn at 2:00 PM (E-mail this entry)
The Porch: Tristan Simon does it again
Fireside Pies, Hibiscus, Cubra Libre ... Consilient Restaurants founder Tristan Simon (above) expanded his Henderson Ave. empire last night with a private launch for The Porch.
Simon told me that it is an "American version of a Parisian brasserie"--- with an emphasis on down-home-chic cooking.
We're just glad it's finally here. The Porch has been 15 months in the works after a whole series of zoning and logistical issues with its former Barley House locale that caused Simon at one point to dub it his "own private Iraq".
Well kids, if last night was any indicator, the effort was worth it. The BBQ slider sandwich was a tasty, messy delight, requiring no less than three vintage dish towel napkins, and the chilled blueberry martini, made with crushed, fresh fruit, left me resuscitated and pleasantly sociable.
But hey, find out for yourself. The Porch opens to the public tonight.
The Porch, 2912 N Henderson Ave. (across from Hibiscus), 214-828-2916
Posted by Christopher Wynn at 2:00 PM (E-mail this entry)
carousel
05-09-2007, 08:26 PM
^ a friend of mine who ate at the Porch on Sunday had a less than stellar review if the menu and the food execution. He said after eagerly anticipating his pre-opening meal he was less than impressed by the lack of creativity / originality on the menue. Some of his dinner items included stale and luke warm onion rings, the much interpreted and ubiquitous crab dip, and BLT which can be found at your neighborhood TGI Friday's or your local Denny's. Come on Tristan and Nick.
With this being said, I will reserve comment until I personally give it a taste.
Well, one last thought or question - why does the structural "Porch" on the structure itself seem such an afterthought? Especially, when one considers that the construction started from scratch? With such beautiful weather for such prolongued periods of time here in Texas, I feel they missed an opportunity to have a comfortable and inviting outdoor eating experience. This place doesn't deserve the name Porch.
With this being said, I will reserve comment until I personally give it a taste.
Well, one last thought or question - why does the structural "Porch" on the structure itself seem such an afterthought? Especially, when one considers that the construction started from scratch? With such beautiful weather for such prolongued periods of time here in Texas, I feel they missed an opportunity to have a comfortable and inviting outdoor eating experience. This place doesn't deserve the name Porch.
Lakewooder
05-10-2007, 03:45 PM
From pegasusnews.com:
Thursday, May 10, 2007
Restaurateur Tristan Simon hypnotizes Dallas media by giving them free morsels of food
By Teresa Gubbins
Email Print Tell us your story Comments (4)
DALLAS — Restaurateur Tristan Simon is opening a new restaurant. It's called The Porch. Simon and his chef-partner Nick Badovinius are one of the most popular restaurant teams in the city, and have a warm, cordial relationship with the press. They excel at buzz; when they opened Hibiscus, it was met with the kind of over-the-top adoration that begins to make you -- OK, me -- uncomfortable, especially when more than one reviewer compared the restaurant to having sex. (People, it's just macaroni and cheese.)
Your meat is so tender, your cocktails so addictive!
Well, Porch is already off to a start that's going to make the reaction to Hibiscus seem tame. Porch held a media/private party that prompted three local-media blogs to pile on with near-identical kiss-kisses that should provoke only one response: BACKLASH.
Exhibit A 10:40 p.m. Tuesday: Overheard, the blog by the staff of Park Cities People, gets points for being first; their entry was posted the night of the event. It's also not too effusive -- just a straight-ahead account with some good descriptions of the drinks.
Exhibit B 10:37 a.m. Wednesday: An excruciatingly infatuated entry comes in on FrontBurner which calls it "seriously drool-worthy" and thanks Tristan personally for being invited to the private party-media preview.
Exhibit C 2 p.m. Wednesday: Coming in last (true to form!), the DMN weighs in, calling one sandwich a "tasty, messy delight," and a "Simon told me" yada-yada quote that tells ME the author sure is plugged in. "We're just glad it's finally here," sez the DMN; so are we!
As an addendum, when a call was placed to the restaurant on Thursday morning, asking the hours of operation, "Anna," who answered the phone, said the restaurant didn't want to divulge hours because those hours might change, and there would be no point in giving out hours if they changed. When asked what time the restaurant would open just on Thursday, with no expectations of a long-term commitment, she said, "Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but you're the one who called me."
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Thursday, May 10, 2007
Restaurateur Tristan Simon hypnotizes Dallas media by giving them free morsels of food
By Teresa Gubbins
Email Print Tell us your story Comments (4)
DALLAS — Restaurateur Tristan Simon is opening a new restaurant. It's called The Porch. Simon and his chef-partner Nick Badovinius are one of the most popular restaurant teams in the city, and have a warm, cordial relationship with the press. They excel at buzz; when they opened Hibiscus, it was met with the kind of over-the-top adoration that begins to make you -- OK, me -- uncomfortable, especially when more than one reviewer compared the restaurant to having sex. (People, it's just macaroni and cheese.)
Your meat is so tender, your cocktails so addictive!
Well, Porch is already off to a start that's going to make the reaction to Hibiscus seem tame. Porch held a media/private party that prompted three local-media blogs to pile on with near-identical kiss-kisses that should provoke only one response: BACKLASH.
Exhibit A 10:40 p.m. Tuesday: Overheard, the blog by the staff of Park Cities People, gets points for being first; their entry was posted the night of the event. It's also not too effusive -- just a straight-ahead account with some good descriptions of the drinks.
Exhibit B 10:37 a.m. Wednesday: An excruciatingly infatuated entry comes in on FrontBurner which calls it "seriously drool-worthy" and thanks Tristan personally for being invited to the private party-media preview.
Exhibit C 2 p.m. Wednesday: Coming in last (true to form!), the DMN weighs in, calling one sandwich a "tasty, messy delight," and a "Simon told me" yada-yada quote that tells ME the author sure is plugged in. "We're just glad it's finally here," sez the DMN; so are we!
As an addendum, when a call was placed to the restaurant on Thursday morning, asking the hours of operation, "Anna," who answered the phone, said the restaurant didn't want to divulge hours because those hours might change, and there would be no point in giving out hours if they changed. When asked what time the restaurant would open just on Thursday, with no expectations of a long-term commitment, she said, "Look, I'm not trying to be rude, but you're the one who called me."
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Tnekster
05-14-2007, 10:44 AM
Fish, pub & pasta restaurants plan fall openings
Dallas Business Journal - May 11, 2007by Lauren D'AvolioStaff Writer
Carroll Burgoon
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2007/05/14/story4.html
PREPARING TO POUR: Peter Kenny stands outside his soon-to-be Capitol Pub, at Capitol and North Henderson avenues.
View Larger An Old World pub, a Naples-inspired Italian restaurant and a Fish City Grill are set to extend Henderson Avenue's restaurant corridor with scheduled fall openings.
The three are ready to go in at a 20,000-square-foot development on the southeast corner of Henderson and Capitol avenues and 6,000 square feet southwest of the intersection. Those spots are owned by Andres Properties and have been overhauled during the last 12 months at a cost of more than $2 million in renovations, said co-owner Marc Andres.
"There was nothing to be reused, so everything was stripped out," said Andres, who heads up Andres Properties with his brother, Roger Andres. "It was a completely new design. We used some very modern materials and added another 100-car parking lot."
Peter Kenny, part owner of The Dubliner, The Old Monk and the Idle Rich Pub, said he's hoping patrons at his newest endeavor -- called Capitol Pub -- will be eating food and hoisting pints by Nov. 1. He said his plan for a 2,700-square-foot pub will boast a patio and meals for $12 or less. His improvements will cost $300,000 to $400,000.
"I think we'll kind of grow into it over the years," Kenny said. "I don't think from day one we'll open the door and that's how it is."
Fish fare
A new Fish City Grill location on Henderson will be one of about 16 new eateries the chain has planned for next year, says Bill Bayne, president and co-founder of Fish City owner Neighborhood Ventures Inc. of Addison. He said Dallas-Fort Worth has seven of the 14 Fish City stores that currently exist.
"We've positioned ourselves in unique and/or upscale neighborhoods. We intentonally keep our stores small so we can maintain that casual joint feel," Bayne said.
Bayne estimates it will take $600,000 to get this Fish City Grill on its feet. Menu prices will run a hungry customer from $6 to $11 for a dish on the menu, or $7 to $17 for specials, he said.
Italian from Houston
Dwight Sellars, general partner at JPES Partnership, said his company will unveil Pulcinella restaurant by mid-October. The original Pulcinella -- its only other location -- is in Houston.
The Henderson Avenue Italian restaurant will be about 4,000 square feet, with $400,000 to $500,000 in renovations. Menu prices will range from about $12 for pasta to $37 for filet mignon, he said.
"We're basically talking authentic Naples, Italy, cuisines, so all the pastas, all the meats, a real nice array of salads, and a wood-fired pizza oven built in Italy and shipped over and assembled," Sellars said. "My pizza guy is trained in Italy. The majority of ingredients are imported."
Restaurauteur of 38 years and founder of Black-eyed Pea Gene Street believes all three eateries will thrive.
"It's a magnet. It's a draw," Street said. "There's a plethora of restaurants in that area."
Street said the relatively hassle-free access from North Central Expressway will vamp up the restaurants' success. But parking, despite the additional 100 spaces Andres added, will be a premium, Street said.
"I would assume they'll all do well," he said. "lt will mean a lot of new valet business and security."
ldavolio@bizjournals.com | 214-706-7113
Dallas Business Journal - May 11, 2007by Lauren D'AvolioStaff Writer
Carroll Burgoon
http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2007/05/14/story4.html
PREPARING TO POUR: Peter Kenny stands outside his soon-to-be Capitol Pub, at Capitol and North Henderson avenues.
View Larger An Old World pub, a Naples-inspired Italian restaurant and a Fish City Grill are set to extend Henderson Avenue's restaurant corridor with scheduled fall openings.
The three are ready to go in at a 20,000-square-foot development on the southeast corner of Henderson and Capitol avenues and 6,000 square feet southwest of the intersection. Those spots are owned by Andres Properties and have been overhauled during the last 12 months at a cost of more than $2 million in renovations, said co-owner Marc Andres.
"There was nothing to be reused, so everything was stripped out," said Andres, who heads up Andres Properties with his brother, Roger Andres. "It was a completely new design. We used some very modern materials and added another 100-car parking lot."
Peter Kenny, part owner of The Dubliner, The Old Monk and the Idle Rich Pub, said he's hoping patrons at his newest endeavor -- called Capitol Pub -- will be eating food and hoisting pints by Nov. 1. He said his plan for a 2,700-square-foot pub will boast a patio and meals for $12 or less. His improvements will cost $300,000 to $400,000.
"I think we'll kind of grow into it over the years," Kenny said. "I don't think from day one we'll open the door and that's how it is."
Fish fare
A new Fish City Grill location on Henderson will be one of about 16 new eateries the chain has planned for next year, says Bill Bayne, president and co-founder of Fish City owner Neighborhood Ventures Inc. of Addison. He said Dallas-Fort Worth has seven of the 14 Fish City stores that currently exist.
"We've positioned ourselves in unique and/or upscale neighborhoods. We intentonally keep our stores small so we can maintain that casual joint feel," Bayne said.
Bayne estimates it will take $600,000 to get this Fish City Grill on its feet. Menu prices will run a hungry customer from $6 to $11 for a dish on the menu, or $7 to $17 for specials, he said.
Italian from Houston
Dwight Sellars, general partner at JPES Partnership, said his company will unveil Pulcinella restaurant by mid-October. The original Pulcinella -- its only other location -- is in Houston.
The Henderson Avenue Italian restaurant will be about 4,000 square feet, with $400,000 to $500,000 in renovations. Menu prices will range from about $12 for pasta to $37 for filet mignon, he said.
"We're basically talking authentic Naples, Italy, cuisines, so all the pastas, all the meats, a real nice array of salads, and a wood-fired pizza oven built in Italy and shipped over and assembled," Sellars said. "My pizza guy is trained in Italy. The majority of ingredients are imported."
Restaurauteur of 38 years and founder of Black-eyed Pea Gene Street believes all three eateries will thrive.
"It's a magnet. It's a draw," Street said. "There's a plethora of restaurants in that area."
Street said the relatively hassle-free access from North Central Expressway will vamp up the restaurants' success. But parking, despite the additional 100 spaces Andres added, will be a premium, Street said.
"I would assume they'll all do well," he said. "lt will mean a lot of new valet business and security."
ldavolio@bizjournals.com | 214-706-7113
BGM
05-15-2007, 08:16 AM
2 Questions:
1) With all the redevelopment going on down Henderson what are the plans for repaving it ?
2) The article mentions the southwest corner of Capital and Henderson as being redeveloped as well---I haven't driven by there in a of couple weeks--arent' there a couple little Spanish stores still there ?
1) With all the redevelopment going on down Henderson what are the plans for repaving it ?
2) The article mentions the southwest corner of Capital and Henderson as being redeveloped as well---I haven't driven by there in a of couple weeks--arent' there a couple little Spanish stores still there ?
Lakewooder
05-15-2007, 02:37 PM
From Lakewood Advocate A-List:
VERITABLE SMORGASBORD
We've already got a ton of great restaurants here in our neighborhood, and we're getting ready to add three more. A new development on Henderson Avenue will soon be home to three new restaurants, including a Fish City Grill and the Naples, Italy-inspired Pulcinella. But the one we're most excited about is Capitol Pub, a new venture from Peter Kenny, owner of time-tested-and-true establishments such as The Dubliner, The Old Monk and Idle Rich Pub. Kenny guesses the new place will be open by early November, so pencil in that pub-crawl for the fall. Oh, and the development includes 100 new parking spaces, so that hassle will be at least slightly improved.
WHERE: Henderson Avenue at Capitol
VERITABLE SMORGASBORD
We've already got a ton of great restaurants here in our neighborhood, and we're getting ready to add three more. A new development on Henderson Avenue will soon be home to three new restaurants, including a Fish City Grill and the Naples, Italy-inspired Pulcinella. But the one we're most excited about is Capitol Pub, a new venture from Peter Kenny, owner of time-tested-and-true establishments such as The Dubliner, The Old Monk and Idle Rich Pub. Kenny guesses the new place will be open by early November, so pencil in that pub-crawl for the fall. Oh, and the development includes 100 new parking spaces, so that hassle will be at least slightly improved.
WHERE: Henderson Avenue at Capitol
Kelley USA
05-15-2007, 02:41 PM
Fish City is pretty good... It was started by the same people who originally founded Rockfish (or at least one of the guys). Basically the same menu as Rockfish.
clipper
05-15-2007, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't bet on the city of Dallas repaving anything. Can't tell it by looking at streets in Uptown and elsewhere.
UrbanBiker
05-15-2007, 03:23 PM
Looks like they are knocking down the Old Transmission/Garage Building on the Northeast Corner of Haskell and Ross. Anyone have any idea as to what might be going in at that location?
Milkman Dan
05-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Biker, I notcied that last week. Perhaps you should email / call our fair councilman, Mitch Rasansky - hes the owner. Looks like they are actually going to keep the steel frame. For lease signs all around the place.
RASANSKY, MITCHELL /214/363-1585 /5498 LA SIERRA, DALLAS, TX 75231 $400,000 REMOVE PORTION OF BUILDING, RENOVATE BACK TO SHELL GEN MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE > 3500 SQ. FT. 4101 ROSS AVE.
RASANSKY, MITCHELL /214/363-1585 /5498 LA SIERRA, DALLAS, TX 75231 $400,000 REMOVE PORTION OF BUILDING, RENOVATE BACK TO SHELL GEN MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE > 3500 SQ. FT. 4101 ROSS AVE.
Lakewooder
05-17-2007, 02:48 PM
East Dallas apartments to be replaced
8-block community is planned for changing neighborhood
11:24 PM CDT on Wednesday, May 16, 2007
By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News
stevebrown@dallasnews.com
Developers plan to knock down parts of eight blocks of old East Dallas apartments and replace them with a new rental community.
The apartment buildings earmarked for demolition are along Bennett Avenue at Belmont and Capitol avenues and Manett Street. They were built in the 1960s and early 1970s.
According to filings at Dallas City Hall, the developers plan to clear the 8.2-acre tract and build 469 apartments.
Tax records say that about 300 rental units are currently on the properties.
The tracts are owned by real estate partnerships that have invested in the area over the years.
But filings indicate that developer United Dominion Realty Trust – one of the country's largest apartment builders – is behind the redevelopment program. A partnership identified as the "prospective buyer" of the properties has Dominion Realty's office and e-mail address listed on the zoning change application.
Officials in United Dominion Realty's Dallas office did not return phone calls.
A representative for the current owners also did not respond to Wednesday to a request for details.
The pending change is no secret in the East Side neighborhood, where more than a half dozen apartment complexes are plastered with "Proposed Zoning" signs.
The neighborhood is already shifting. Builders are putting up new townhouses and condos on adjoining blocks.
And on nearby Fitzhugh Avenue, another big developer – Trammell Crow Residential – has broken ground for a two-block rental complex.
"That whole area is ripe for transition," said broker Newt Walker, who two years ago sold the first large apartment complex that was razed in the area. That property at Belmont and Henderson Avenue is now being developed by Perry Homes into three-story townhouses.
Mr. Walker said it's not surprising that United Dominion Realty is interested in redevelopment.
"It's just a matter of time before someone does it," he said. "When you look at the age of a lot of the rental units over there, they are becoming functionally obsolete, and it's time to turn to another chapter."
For developers hunting apartment land, the blocks east of North Central Expressway are hot property, said Greg Willett, a researcher with apartment analysts M/PF YieldStar.
"All the easy deals are done," Mr. Willett said. "This proposed redevelopment is more ambitious in scope than what we have seen before."
Other builders are tearing down blocks of old apartments in Oak Lawn, he said.
And in Addison, United Dominion Realty intends to knock down about 2,400 older apartments and replace them with new construction.
Mr. Willett said the area along Fitzhugh, Bennett and Henderson is a good location for new apartments.
"If you price it correctly and don't try to get the same thing as in the heart of Uptown, we know there is demand," he said.
8-block community is planned for changing neighborhood
11:24 PM CDT on Wednesday, May 16, 2007
By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News
stevebrown@dallasnews.com
Developers plan to knock down parts of eight blocks of old East Dallas apartments and replace them with a new rental community.
The apartment buildings earmarked for demolition are along Bennett Avenue at Belmont and Capitol avenues and Manett Street. They were built in the 1960s and early 1970s.
According to filings at Dallas City Hall, the developers plan to clear the 8.2-acre tract and build 469 apartments.
Tax records say that about 300 rental units are currently on the properties.
The tracts are owned by real estate partnerships that have invested in the area over the years.
But filings indicate that developer United Dominion Realty Trust – one of the country's largest apartment builders – is behind the redevelopment program. A partnership identified as the "prospective buyer" of the properties has Dominion Realty's office and e-mail address listed on the zoning change application.
Officials in United Dominion Realty's Dallas office did not return phone calls.
A representative for the current owners also did not respond to Wednesday to a request for details.
The pending change is no secret in the East Side neighborhood, where more than a half dozen apartment complexes are plastered with "Proposed Zoning" signs.
The neighborhood is already shifting. Builders are putting up new townhouses and condos on adjoining blocks.
And on nearby Fitzhugh Avenue, another big developer – Trammell Crow Residential – has broken ground for a two-block rental complex.
"That whole area is ripe for transition," said broker Newt Walker, who two years ago sold the first large apartment complex that was razed in the area. That property at Belmont and Henderson Avenue is now being developed by Perry Homes into three-story townhouses.
Mr. Walker said it's not surprising that United Dominion Realty is interested in redevelopment.
"It's just a matter of time before someone does it," he said. "When you look at the age of a lot of the rental units over there, they are becoming functionally obsolete, and it's time to turn to another chapter."
For developers hunting apartment land, the blocks east of North Central Expressway are hot property, said Greg Willett, a researcher with apartment analysts M/PF YieldStar.
"All the easy deals are done," Mr. Willett said. "This proposed redevelopment is more ambitious in scope than what we have seen before."
Other builders are tearing down blocks of old apartments in Oak Lawn, he said.
And in Addison, United Dominion Realty intends to knock down about 2,400 older apartments and replace them with new construction.
Mr. Willett said the area along Fitzhugh, Bennett and Henderson is a good location for new apartments.
"If you price it correctly and don't try to get the same thing as in the heart of Uptown, we know there is demand," he said.
Tnekster
05-17-2007, 03:12 PM
This one should just about wipe out little Mexico over there. Also, this is right behind that corner of Fitzhugh and Capital where all those little shops are. Wonder what that corner will turn into? Lots of opportunity there.
tamtagon
05-17-2007, 05:29 PM
11:24 PM CDT on Wednesday, May 16, 2007
By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News
... According to filings at Dallas City Hall, the developers plan to clear the 8.2-acre tract and build 469 apartments.
Tax records say that about 300 rental units are currently on the properties.
I for one am thoroughly disappointed by the density.
Until East Dallas population density substantially increases, mobility within that part of town as well as connectivity to the rest of Central Dallas will continue to depend mostly on a car. Oh well.
By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News
... According to filings at Dallas City Hall, the developers plan to clear the 8.2-acre tract and build 469 apartments.
Tax records say that about 300 rental units are currently on the properties.
I for one am thoroughly disappointed by the density.
Until East Dallas population density substantially increases, mobility within that part of town as well as connectivity to the rest of Central Dallas will continue to depend mostly on a car. Oh well.
Hannibal Lecter
05-18-2007, 02:22 AM
I for one am thoroughly disappointed by the density.
Until East Dallas population density substantially increases, mobility within that part of town as well as connectivity to the rest of Central Dallas will continue to depend mostly on a car. Oh well.Of course the vast majority of people prefer to live in a less dense neighborhood, and the vast majority of people prefer the freedom of traveling by automobile, but, heh...what do they know, right? :-)
Until East Dallas population density substantially increases, mobility within that part of town as well as connectivity to the rest of Central Dallas will continue to depend mostly on a car. Oh well.Of course the vast majority of people prefer to live in a less dense neighborhood, and the vast majority of people prefer the freedom of traveling by automobile, but, heh...what do they know, right? :-)
sheilock
05-18-2007, 08:46 AM
I just heard that our wonderful Councilwoman for District 2, Pauline Medrano, is trying to crush this project. Yesterday at the zoning hearing she denied the plans...saying it was too dense (4 stories). Not only that, but she is demanding an affordability clause for the complex...don't look now idealists, but me thinks someone is scared her voters are all going to be pushed out of the district.
BGM
05-18-2007, 09:04 AM
I wouldn't be too worried about a council person--these will still be built. I drive on Bennett every single day to and from work---there are re-zoning signs everywhere.
gc
05-18-2007, 09:06 AM
...don't look now idealists, but me thinks someone is scared her voters are all going to be pushed out of the district....
They are going to be. That neighborhood has already changed drastically over the last 5 years. It is an ideal area to redevelop with it's proximity to Cityplace, WestVillage, lower Greenville, Knox, as well as DTD.
They are going to be. That neighborhood has already changed drastically over the last 5 years. It is an ideal area to redevelop with it's proximity to Cityplace, WestVillage, lower Greenville, Knox, as well as DTD.
tamtagon
05-18-2007, 09:07 AM
Of course the vast majority of people prefer to live in a less dense neighborhood, and the vast majority of people prefer the freedom of traveling by automobile, but, heh...what do they know, right? :-)
Care to quantify that statement of preference? If there is no option to choose, there cannot be a preference.
Care to quantify that statement of preference? If there is no option to choose, there cannot be a preference.
sheilock
05-18-2007, 09:24 AM
I wouldn't be too worried about a council person--these will still be built. I drive on Bennett every single day to and from work---there are re-zoning signs everywhere.
...problem is, you're going to end up with a less profitable project for the developer = diminshing quality
...problem is, you're going to end up with a less profitable project for the developer = diminshing quality
BGM
05-18-2007, 09:31 AM
Definitely will be less profitable if the councilwoman gets her way. My guess is it will still pass as how the developers want it for the most part.
LakeRidge
05-18-2007, 09:42 AM
Of course the vast majority of people prefer to live in a less dense neighborhood, and the vast majority of people prefer the freedom of traveling by automobile, but, heh...what do they know, right? :-)
The "vast majority of people" prefer chocolate to vegetables, soda to water, and celebrities to scientists.
Some of the "vast majority" also realize they should not always do what they want and must sometimes make decisions that are better for them in the long run. This is why people have savings accounts, eat meals other than dessert, and go to work instead of getting drunk and staying home to watch The Price is Right.
The "vast majority of people" prefer chocolate to vegetables, soda to water, and celebrities to scientists.
Some of the "vast majority" also realize they should not always do what they want and must sometimes make decisions that are better for them in the long run. This is why people have savings accounts, eat meals other than dessert, and go to work instead of getting drunk and staying home to watch The Price is Right.
clipper
05-18-2007, 09:44 AM
The city council and plan commission almost never go against the wishes of the councilperson for the district where a proposed development is located.
tamtagon
05-18-2007, 10:02 AM
The city council and plan commission almost never go against the wishes of the councilperson for the district where a proposed development is located.
Then Pauline Medrano does not understand she represents an intown urban neighborhood. As long as the initial suburban neighborhoods surrounding downtown Dallas are forced to remain suburban, all the efforts to rebuild a robust urban city core will be compromised. For job growth to occur in Dallas County's central employment centers - CBD, Stemmons Corridor and Uptown - the residential population of Oak Lawn, East Dallas, West Dallas and Oak Cliff much increase, substantially.
Then Pauline Medrano does not understand she represents an intown urban neighborhood. As long as the initial suburban neighborhoods surrounding downtown Dallas are forced to remain suburban, all the efforts to rebuild a robust urban city core will be compromised. For job growth to occur in Dallas County's central employment centers - CBD, Stemmons Corridor and Uptown - the residential population of Oak Lawn, East Dallas, West Dallas and Oak Cliff much increase, substantially.
sheilock
05-18-2007, 10:18 AM
Then Pauline Medrano does not understand she represents an intown urban neighborhood. As long as the initial suburban neighborhoods surrounding downtown Dallas are forced to remain suburban, all the efforts to rebuild a robust urban city core will be compromised. For job growth to occur in Dallas County's central employment centers - CBD, Stemmons Corridor and Uptown - the residential population of Oak Lawn, East Dallas, West Dallas and Oak Cliff much increase, substantially.
Amen brother! Unfortunately someone at sometime annointed her; when it's doubtful that she understands some basic principals of economics.
Amen brother! Unfortunately someone at sometime annointed her; when it's doubtful that she understands some basic principals of economics.
Lionel Hutz
05-18-2007, 10:48 AM
If there is one thing I've learned, it's that politicians always put their own self-interest (i.e., re-election) ahead of what might be best for the masses. Just ask our former County Commissioners.
carousel
05-18-2007, 12:01 PM
I just heard that our wonderful Councilwoman for District 2, Pauline Medrano, is trying to crush this project. Yesterday at the zoning hearing she denied the plans...saying it was too dense (4 stories). Not only that, but she is demanding an affordability clause for the complex...don't look now idealists, but me thinks someone is scared her voters are all going to be pushed out of the district.
Four stories too dense???????? Give me a break.
Four stories too dense???????? Give me a break.
carousel
05-18-2007, 12:05 PM
If there is one thing I've learned, it's that politicians always put their own self-interest (i.e., re-election) ahead of what might be best for the masses. Just ask our former County Commissioners.
Just ask our politicians in D.C. - pathetic.
Just ask our politicians in D.C. - pathetic.
Lakewooder
05-18-2007, 01:47 PM
When I worked to elect Monica Greene I knew the ugly side of the Medranos would eventually be revealed. They used vote harvesters to win, so why would we expect anything else?
Of course the press did not cover that side of the election.
Of course the press did not cover that side of the election.
msutton
05-18-2007, 04:13 PM
If she gets her way, that will be a real shame. Though I doubt if even she will be able to keep the necessary urbanization of this area from happening--even if she gets her way with this project.
Lakewooder
05-18-2007, 04:25 PM
If she is going to start fighting gentrification in her district she is going to be very busy.
Tnekster
05-18-2007, 04:32 PM
The city council and plan commission almost never go against the wishes of the councilperson for the district where a proposed development is located.
Didn't they go against Rasansky?
Didn't they go against Rasansky?
clipper
05-19-2007, 03:17 PM
Pauline Medrano is afraid of heights. You may remember she fought the McKinney Avenue high-rise at Fairmont, even though that wasn't her district.
From the DMN about that zoning meeting: Pauline Medrano disagreed, saying, "the height is just too, too high" to suit the neighborhood's character.
From the DMN about that zoning meeting: Pauline Medrano disagreed, saying, "the height is just too, too high" to suit the neighborhood's character.
Lakewooder
05-21-2007, 03:02 PM
Has she forgotten about "Forward Dallas"? I thought she voted for that...
BGM
05-22-2007, 07:16 PM
I drove down Henderson today (don't normally go that way) to see how things are developing. Anyone know what the plans are for that huge space of land on the north side of Henderson on the blocks just west of the Slip Inn, etc ? Or is it still for sale. Seems like it's been sitting there for awhile.
rantanamo
05-23-2007, 12:33 AM
driving around that area for a little bit, I had no idea the extent of what's going on throughout that area. It really is a block by block gentrification and its not just confined to areas close to Central. It really is interesting as that whole area of older apartments and smaller homes between Henderson, Central and say Ross may eventually be totally replaced. Have we seen anything of this scale in Dallas?
Tnekster
05-23-2007, 08:20 AM
Have we seen anything of this scale in Dallas?
I think this is the trend now, it used to be piece by piece but now developers are taking down blocks at at time. The same thing is starting to hit Oak Cliff.
I think this is the trend now, it used to be piece by piece but now developers are taking down blocks at at time. The same thing is starting to hit Oak Cliff.
carousel
05-23-2007, 10:48 AM
Another apartment building located directly behind the new retail complex (probably 6-8 units) is going down.
rantanamo
05-23-2007, 11:54 AM
seriously if you've not gone been around that area in a while, it is something to see. Its much different from even a year ago.
sheilock
05-23-2007, 10:30 PM
anyone know what's going on at Jack N Box (75 & Fitzhugh)? I guess it may be a remodel, but doesn't look like it...
BGM
05-24-2007, 08:10 AM
I drive to and from work on Fitzhugh and noticed that as well. My guess is it's just remodeling.
auburndan
05-24-2007, 01:07 PM
driving around that area for a little bit, I had no idea the extent of what's going on throughout that area. It really is a block by block gentrification and its not just confined to areas close to Central. It really is interesting as that whole area of older apartments and smaller homes between Henderson, Central and say Ross may eventually be totally replaced. Have we seen anything of this scale in Dallas?
In 2005 the City Council passed an ordinance that said all automotive type businesses on Ross between Fitzhugh and downtown must be gone by April of 2010. Some have already gone and several others are for sale. If you'll drive down Ross, you'll see that about 75% of the businesses between Fitzhugh and downtown are automotive type businesses, so over the next 3 years I imagine that Ross will be totally replaced. It's already started on the downtown end of Ross, just look at the new homes being built.
In 2005 the City Council passed an ordinance that said all automotive type businesses on Ross between Fitzhugh and downtown must be gone by April of 2010. Some have already gone and several others are for sale. If you'll drive down Ross, you'll see that about 75% of the businesses between Fitzhugh and downtown are automotive type businesses, so over the next 3 years I imagine that Ross will be totally replaced. It's already started on the downtown end of Ross, just look at the new homes being built.
rosewood
05-24-2007, 03:10 PM
Darling,
Take a look at Oak Lawn! Especially the wrong side of Lemmon is now the right side and that awful area behind the gay bars from Oak Lawn Avenue to Inwood Road from Cedar Springs to Harry Hines is all being bulldozed for condo , apartments and retail. Vast swaths are being cleared of those nasty hustlers, drug dealers and illegal Mexicans! It is fabulous!
Rosewood.
driving around that area for a little bit, I had no idea the extent of what's going on throughout that area. It really is a block by block gentrification and its not just confined to areas close to Central. It really is interesting as that whole area of older apartments and smaller homes between Henderson, Central and say Ross may eventually be totally replaced. Have we seen anything of this scale in Dallas?
Take a look at Oak Lawn! Especially the wrong side of Lemmon is now the right side and that awful area behind the gay bars from Oak Lawn Avenue to Inwood Road from Cedar Springs to Harry Hines is all being bulldozed for condo , apartments and retail. Vast swaths are being cleared of those nasty hustlers, drug dealers and illegal Mexicans! It is fabulous!
Rosewood.
driving around that area for a little bit, I had no idea the extent of what's going on throughout that area. It really is a block by block gentrification and its not just confined to areas close to Central. It really is interesting as that whole area of older apartments and smaller homes between Henderson, Central and say Ross may eventually be totally replaced. Have we seen anything of this scale in Dallas?
rantanamo
05-24-2007, 04:23 PM
I immediately thought of Oaklawn, but this still feels different. I guess I frequented that area a lot, and even had to walk that hood at a former job. Its almost been daylighted.
LakeHighlands
05-24-2007, 04:29 PM
driving around that area for a little bit, I had no idea the extent of what's going on throughout that area. It really is a block by block gentrification and its not just confined to areas close to Central. It really is interesting as that whole area of older apartments and smaller homes between Henderson, Central and say Ross may eventually be totally replaced. Have we seen anything of this scale in Dallas?
Go drive by Valencia. You will be amazed. Apartment after apartment is being bulldozed! I have never seen anything like it in Dallas.
Go drive by Valencia. You will be amazed. Apartment after apartment is being bulldozed! I have never seen anything like it in Dallas.
rantanamo
05-24-2007, 07:28 PM
the difference is, you guys had this master plan in place. This is much more like a block or two of your homes or your businesses and apts going away. Its really interesting.
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