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ianbryant
01 February 2002, 01:19 PM
This is a really good article from globest.com. It looks like downtown might finally be getting a grocery store and more retail might be coming on line within the year! Take a look...

New Tenants Will Prove Shot in the Arm for Downtown's Retail Recovery
By Connie Gore
Last updated: Feb 1, 2002 10:20AM

DALLAS-One of Dallas' retail coaches says a lead tenant for a 10-block Downtown revitalization will be signed in 90 to 120 days.
It most likey will be a grocer since high-level talks have three talking serious business, Richard Lake, managing partner of Madison Retail Group, tells GlobeSt.com. But, he quickly adds, it could be another top retail draw. The point is a signing looms.

The Washington, DC firms of Roadside Development and Madison Retail Group along with teammate Cincinnati-based Madison Marquette Realty are in the final month of a contract with the Center City Tax Incentive Finance District to game out a retail strategy to revitalize the Downtown. The assessment is done. The cost benefit analysis, still being fine-tuned, is ringing up right now at $500 million or more. Implementation and management phases are next in line. Lake says he doesn't foresee a problem in a mutual re-upping to steer the project to fruition. RTKL Associates of Dallas holds the design task for Main, Elm and Commerce streets.

Neiman-Marcus' flagship store and headquarters along Main Street stands as a testament to what should be a thriving retail district in a vibrant office market. Instead, the CBD is the seat of the nation's highest office vacancy, 27.7%, according to Grubb & Ellis Co.'s latest calculations.

The public-private partnership entails about two dozen building owners, all keen on renewal and some short on dollars to battle remediation. Center City TIF has a $30-million pool being shared by several projects, one of which is the retail revitalization spearheaded by the Dallas Downtown Partnership.

Under the plan, the 150,000-sf Neiman-Marcus will anchor the project area being marketed to grocers, restaurateurs, bookstores, entertainment venues and a plethora of other prospects. The TIF district already has attracted 60,000 sf of new retail that coupled older venues account for about 250,000 sf, according to Lake's best guess. Another 250,000 sf of retail lines the tunnel system, he says. But, it's far short of what should be found in a world-class city's CBD. Lake believes the first retail wave for 250,000 sf to 300,000 sf should be ready to roll out by late 2002 or early 2003. He's optimistic and confident that the retail seeding will bring about the desired results: a revitalization and eventually a 24/7 CBD.

The plan can't stand alone, as other major metros discovered in the late 1980s when they undertook projects of similar magnitude. "It takes a long time to change the psyche of retail," Lake says. More infrastructure is a must-have, particularly parking.

Lake concedes the West End has done an outstanding job of securing a foothold on Downtown day and nightlife. Others are on board to spur the effort and reap financial rewards from a vibrant Downtown: Ross Perot Jr.'s Victory development, South Side Development and numerous multifamily developers with their 1,300 units on line and another 500 waiting in the wings. It's now time for the city's core to step out of the shadows. "The real test is cooperation and how successful the first phase is," Lake says.

KelleyUSA
06 February 2002, 10:21 AM
I read this article myself. Downtown sorely needs a grocery store (hopefully it'll take some of the patrons away from my Albertson's on McKinney Ave.).. However, though it would be a good start- I'm not sure it would be the "shot in the arm" that downtown needs. What would come next- a Walgreen's and Kwik Wash Laundry. I'm not excited about grocery store- though needed. If they want people to get excited they need to land the likes of Pier 1 and Barnes & Noble. These would be 2 great stores that would fit in nice on Main Street.

Does anyone have any idea what type of retail they are trying to get? Is this upscale or mid-scale or perhaps another department store?

ianbryant
06 February 2002, 03:32 PM
I agree with you KelleyUSA, opening a grocery store downtown is not going to make people want to shop along main street. However, it does provide a needed place to buy daily necessities for the people that already live there.

I hope that Dallas officials are smart enough not to let a grocery store try to build a big box store in the middle of downtown...I know they understand the importance of making the grocery store fit into its urban context, however, I'm afraid that in desperation to get a grocery store down there, they might give in to the demands of the grocery store. Let's hope not!!

I personally looked into living downtown a few months ago, but when I decided to quit work and go back to school full time (urban planning at UTA), I couldn't afford it anymore. However, when I was looking into it, it bothered me that I would have to go up to McKinney ave. to shop for food.

This past year I lived at The Worthington on McKinney ave and shopped at the same Albertsons that you mentioned in your reply. You're right, it's always a mad house...doesn't matter what time of day (or night)! I would have gone downtown to shop just to avoid the extremely long lines!!! And I can only imagine how much worse it is getting now that people are moving into the West Village. The only other close option was the Kroger on Cedar Springs, but that too was always packed. These grocery stores could really use some competition!!!

With regard to the type of retail they are trying to attract, I would hope that they are going after retail that doesn't already exist in the surrounding neighborhoods. While not all retail downtown needs to be new and exciting, it does need to give people a reason to come back to downtown to shop. Another department store opening would be great, it would provide the needed anchor and security that all of the potential retail is looking for!

Also, one question...

Does anyone know when Stone Street Gardens is going to open (especially the Metropolitan restaurant)? The opening date keeps getting pushed back, has anyone heard an updated opening date?

jobrayne
26 October 2002, 09:24 PM
Understand that I am new to this forum, and to Dallas, but I thought I would contribute a small comparison using my experience with city living. I lived in Boston, and the Star Market I went to blended right in with its neighbors which were the Hines Convention Center, Marriott Hotel, Tower Records, and (yes) Neiman-Marcus. I know that a grocery store can seem 'trashy' to people who have higher visions for a downtown, etc, but I believe it can be an essential mainstay for any city center.

GarrettCarey
09 December 2002, 11:03 AM
Has anyone heard anything new about the grocery store?

paulsukhudallasmetropolis
17 December 2002, 09:18 AM
I heard it will be a Kroger.

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