why dry

[oak cliff p-wood]

does anybody have any clue as to why dallas south of the trinity is all dry?

[BigD5349]

Oak Cliff voted itself dry back in the mid 1950s. The issue was driven by a group of ministers for "moral" purposes.

[JaeTex]

North Dallas is pretty dry these days too, it's been like months since we've had any rain.

[Lakewooder]

Happened to read this obit in today's paper which provides some insight:

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Joseph Peter Lisotta

LISOTTA, JOSEPH PETER, Joe was born in 1906 to the late Carlo and Lucy Lisotta. He died on January 9, 2006. At the age of 19 he drove from Lake Charles, Louisiana and made Dallas his home. His family followed and opened the historic Lisotta's Grocery Store on Ross Avenue which was featured in the movie, "Robo Cop." His first job in Dallas was at the Adolphus Hotel, unloading food with his uncle. Shortly thereafter, he attended SMU in the engineering department where he predicted that some day there would be a bridge over the Mississippi River. He was nicknamed "Mississippi Joe" by his amused and short-sighted classmates. Through family and friends Joe met the beautiful Ursula Piranio. They were married in 1932 at the now restored Cathedral on Ross Avenue, re-named Our Lady of Guadalupe. He was employed by the City of Dallas as a civil engineer until going into business for himself with Lisotta's Tavern in Oak Cliff. In 1955 as Oak Cliff was beginning a drive to vote "Dry," many other establishments were legally closed. But Lisotta's was the prototype for "Cheers" where "everybody knew your name." Joe would not sell beer to minors and had a strict ethical code. Joe closed his doors in 1956 when Oak Cliff was officially voted Dry. He then retired and invested in properties. He was preceded in death by his beloved wife, Ursula. He is survived by his daughter Lucy Hight and husband, Fred, of Dallas; his daughter, JoAnn (Lee) Stephens and husband, Richard, of Plano; grandson, Joe Hight and wife Cynthia, of Vernon; Fred R. Hight and wife, Mahlon, of Dallas; grandson, Drew Stephens and wife, Sonya, of Jonestown; granddaughter, Saundra Stephens-Woodmansee of Dallas; great-grandson, Reese Hight; great-granddaughters, Sarah and Sydney Stephens; and great-granddaughters, Lindsay, Emily, and Grace Woodmansee; many nieces and nephews and cousins. Viewing will be from 6:00 until 8:00 p.m. on Thursday, January 12, 2006 at Sparkman/Hillcrest Funeral Home. Funeral services will be at Calvary Hill North Chapel of the Mausoleum at 2:00 p.m. on Friday, January 13, 2006 officiated by Father John Libone. Memorials may be made to either Crossroads Community Service Outreach at First United Methodist Church in Dallas; Contact Crisis Line; Faith Episcopal Church of Allen; or Habitat for Humanity. Dignity Memorial Sparkman Hillcrest 7405 W. Northwest Hwy. Dallas (214) 363-5401

OB6 Obituaries, Notices
Published in the Dallas Morning News on 1/11/2006.

[Columbus Civil]

Former Wildcat great

[Lakewooder]

Actually he was too old to be a Wildcat, as Woodrow opened in September, 1928!

Doesn't anyone else scope the obits? I think this one is quite interesting and has some Dallas history...

[Columbus Civil]

Doesn't anyone else scope the obits?

I'll probably pay more attention to them when I get to be your age.

[Cliff Dweller]

There have actually been half-a-dozen attempts to change the "dry" status since the 50's. None has ever gotten enough support from the voters to pass. Originally, the issue might have been somebody's idea of morality, but now it's crime and land use.

I've talked to a lot of residents who truly fear the specter of sleazy liquor stores popping up in every commercial location and attracting bad elements. And if you think a tire shop on the corner is bad for your property values, imagine a drive through beer barn.

[Lakewooder]

I'll probably pay more attention to them when I get to be your age.

Har - Har...

Dallas is my hometown -- so I actually know a lot of people who might be in the obits -- perhaps even someone's parents or grandparents!

Don't you do that in your home town?

[Columbus Civil]

No. If anyone dies in my hometown, I'm sure my parents would tell me.

[monogodo]

No. If anyone dies in my hometown, I'm sure my parents would tell me.
Mine do. I even get news clippings sent to me when anything happens to anyone I even remotely know.

[Lakewooder]

Sorry to keep sidetracking, but:

When your parents are gone how will you know?

[Columbus Civil]

I probably won't. I haven't lived there in 12 years, so I probably won't care all that much. I don't keep in contact with anyone from there.

[oak cliff p-wood]

There have actually been half-a-dozen attempts to change the "dry" status since the 50's. None has ever gotten enough support from the voters to pass. Originally, the issue might have been somebody's idea of morality, but now it's crime and land use.

I've talked to a lot of residents who truly fear the specter of sleazy liquor stores popping up in every commercial location and attracting bad elements. And if you think a tire shop on the corner is bad for your property values, imagine a drive through beer barn.
maybe oak cliff could do like arlington...sell beer only

[gc]

^ Arlington sells wine now too.

[DalLove444]

Unbelievable - i cant believe that large parts of Dallas are still dry - *DYING OF THIRST* I certainly hope that Oaklawn area and Cedar springs is not dry, if thats the case, the city may as well shut down all the clubs!!!!!!! :angryfire

[oak cliff p-wood]

no...all of west dallas, oak cliff and pleasant grove are...soluth east and north dallas are wet