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CTroyMathis
26 July 2005, 11:29 AM
Renderings updated early 2006.

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Planned tower would be tallest in U.S.

July 26, 2005

BY DAVID ROEDER AND KEVIN NANCE Staff Reporters


Chicago's lakefront would get a contender for the title of tallest building in the United States under a developer's plan devised in partnership with Santiago Calatrava, one of the world's foremost architects.

Christopher Carley, chairman of Fordham Co., has shown city officials Calatrava's plan for the Fordham Spire, a hotel/condo tower at 346 E. North Water, where the Chicago River meets Lake Michigan and across Lake Shore Drive from Navy Pier.

At 115 stories, the tower would be 1,458 feet to its roof, taller by eight feet than the roof of Sears Tower. But the Calatrava building would include a spire that, depending on structural details, would bring the building to around 2,000 feet.

FORDHAM SPIRE

Location: 346 E. North Water

Height: 1,458 feet to the roof, about 2,000 feet counting spire

Stories: 115

Square footage: 920,000

Projected cost: more than $500 million

Building use: 200-250 condos, 200-250 hotel rooms, retail and parking at the base

Possible construction start: May 2006

Possible completion: 2009

Developer: Fordham Co.

Architect: Santiago Calatrava



'Financiers are in awe of this man'

Renderings of the Fordham Spire show a tall, slender, ethereal building whose glass-and-steel surface cascades down a central concrete core. The floor slabs are cantilevered out from the core, with each rotated about two degrees from the one below. As they rise, the floors turn 270 degrees around the core, creating an undulating effect like a gown or cloak.

"I know that Chicago is an Indian name, and I can imagine in the oldest time the Native Americans arriving at the lake and making a fire, with a tiny column of smoke going up in the air," Calatrava said. "With this simple gesture of turning one floor a little past another, you achieve this form."

Carley said the task of lining up money for the possibly $500 million building "has been the easiest in my career'' because of Calatrava, best known in the U.S. for his 2001 addition to the Milwaukee Art Museum and his planned transit hub at New York's Ground Zero. "Financiers are in awe of this man."

So are many architects. "He's a fabulous architect and structural engineer," says Chicago's Adrian Smith, a partner at Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. "I love the sculptural quality of his work, how he relates the shape of his buildings to the structural forces in them. His work is very beautiful -- not often steely or tough, but usually highly refined and soft and sensual. He's one of a kind."

Political, financial hurdles

The main questions for the Carley-Calatrava team are whether the structure, planned as a mix of condominiums and hotel units, can be financed and whether it is politically realistic. It falls within the Streeterville neighborhood, a concentration of well-to-do residents increasingly irritable over new high-rises in their midst.

For Carley, meanwhile, the building would be a step up in the development game. After years of putting up multifamily housing around the Midwest, he entered the downtown market in the late 1990s and completed three major condo buildings, a low-rise at 65 E. Goethe and high-rises at 21 E. Huron and 25 E. Superior.


All catered to wealthy buyers. Sales were slower than expected and Carley had to refinance his loans. He said all his lenders have been repaid and that his relationships with them are good.

His company has a contract to buy the 2.2-acre site from affiliates of Chicago-based LR Development Co. LLC.

Carley said his confidence in completing the building "is more than [for] any project I've ever done because the city administration appreciates great architecture.'' He said he courted Calatrava for three years before finding a site suitable for the architect's artistic and engineering gifts.

Will neighbors support plan?

But in the end, the partnership was forged by "personal chemistry,'' Carley said. "I think he was impressed by my dedication to the city and my desire to do something for the city.''

While his plan could stir controversy, it plays into Mayor Daley's pronounced desire to have top-flight architects leave an imprint in Chicago. Also, Carley employs the law firm of Daley & George, whose name partner is mayoral brother Michael Daley. The firm has one of the busiest zoning practices in the city.

Carley said city planners saw the project's details in May and were impressed by the curved, flowing profile of the building. A spokeswoman for the city's Planning Department said the agency would not comment on the design until developers submit a formal zoning plan.

Carley said his plan needs a zoning variance to change the height limitation on the site. And therein lies an argument he'll use against any critics.

Current zoning, he said, lets him put up two buildings on the site in the range of 35 and 50 stories. Going taller and skinnier will minimize blockage of sunlight and views, Carley said.

In addition, he said a Calatrava building will raise property values for the neighbors.

It's not known if the residents will buy that argument. Rosalie Harris, executive director of the Streeterville Organization of Active Residents, said the group has been shown only a few details of the project and not enough on which to form an opinion.

The group orchestrated a campaign against a proposed 64-story tower near the landmark Fourth Presbyterian Church at Michigan and Delaware, causing the local alderman to come out against it.

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Height of PR: Altitude brings bragging rights

July 26, 2005

BY KEVIN NANCE ARCHITECTURE CRITIC


The height of the proposed Fordham Spire -- which at 1,458 feet would be the tallest building in Chicago and the nation, not counting the spire that would top it out at about 2,000 feet -- is the least important thing about it, its architect and developer say.

"There is nothing special about being the highest, and that has never been our goal," architect Santiago Calatrava insists. "The important thing was to find the right shape. To create the slender, ethereal effect we want, it was necessary for it to be very tall. But if it were 10 feet shorter than the Sears Tower [which is 1,450 feet], it would make no difference."

Fordham Co. chairman Chris Carley adds that the attention given to the Fordham Spire's height is mostly "a distraction from the fact that it's a great building by a great architect."

'A major selling point'

But that hasn't stopped the Fordham Spire's public relations campaign from trumpeting the phrase "nation's tallest building" prominently in its press materials -- for which there's a good reason.

"There's a tremendous amount of PR value to developers and architects in going after the title of 'nation's tallest building' or 'world's tallest building,' " says Chicago architect Adrian Smith, the designer of what will be the world's new tallest building -- a mixed-use tower of "substantially more than 2,000 feet," that is scheduled for completion in 2008 in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

"It heightens the visibility of the project and becomes a major selling point," says Smith, a partner at Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. "In the case of Dubai, for example, they're trying to become a tourist destination in the Middle East and build the city into an economic center."

Besides, consumers are simply drawn by the "tallest" moniker, as evidenced by the fact that the Dubai building's apartments and condominiums were sold out within three days of the project's announcement.

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Spaniard is newest 'starchitect'

July 26, 2005

BY KEVIN NANCE Architecture Critic


Santiago Calatrava, the architect of the proposed hotel/condo tower that would be the tallest in the nation, is the world architecture scene's newest superstar -- part of a small group of "starchitects" that includes Frank Gehry, Renzo Piano and Rem Koolhaas.

A Spaniard with offices in Zurich, New York and his hometown of Valencia, Calatrava, 53, is best known in the Midwest for his striking addition to the Milwaukee Museum of Art, which Time magazine recognized as one of the best buildings of 2001.

He leapt even further into the limelight with a new transportation hub at New York's Ground Zero and several structures for the Athens Olympics sports complex. Last year, Calatrava won the American Institute of Architects' Gold Medal for his contributions to the field.

'You're adding a master'

"We sponsored a speech that Calatrava gave in Chicago a couple of years ago and it was a complete sellout," said Tom Kerwin, president of the AIA's Chicago chapter and a partner at Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. "He's a wonderful architect who creates beautifully built forms that combine the two disciplines of architecture and structural engineering."

Also trained as a sculptor, Calatrava produces imaginative, sensual works of an artistic ambition and sculptural freedom perhaps matched only by Gehry. Often, Calatrava's work seems "organic" -- inspired by natural shapes such as birds or fish -- or anthropomorphic, related to the human form. This fall, New York's Metropolitan Museum of Art will present an exhibition of his sculptures, drawings and models.

"I think it's exciting that there's a Calatrava building in the city," said Lynn Osmond, president and CEO of the Chicago Architecture Foundation. "We say that our city's a museum, and anytime you add a new building like this one, you're adding to our collection. And you're adding a master, at that."

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Tower would get city in touch with its feminine side

July 26, 2005

BY KEVIN NANCE ARCHITECTURE CRITIC


The tradition of Chicago architecture is a manly one, and not only because virtually all of its best-known architects (notwithstanding current rising stars Carol Ross Barney and Jeanne Gang) have been men. From Jenney to Sullivan to Mies, the signal qualities of great buildings in the City of Big Shoulders have had masculine connotations: a pumped-up muscularity, a solidity, a broadness. We're particularly defined by our tall buildings, and can anything be more phallic than a skyscraper? Symbolically speaking, we're a metropolis of satyrs.

But if his proposed Fordham Spire manages to clear the regulatory, political and financial briar patch that now lies before it, Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava will bring something startlingly new to the Chicago skyline: a feminine mystique.

Although he tends to distance himself from interpretations of his designs as "organic" or anthropomorphic -- the evocative nature of his work, he claims, is usually a byproduct of structural considerations -- Calatrava has designed a building that looks for all the world like a tall, stately woman in a flowing, gauzy gown that swirls around her legs. It's exactly the manner of Ginger Rogers on a dance floor with Fred Astaire: the ethereal lightness, the illusion of movement. You're ready to fly down to Rio whenever she is.

You find this sensuous, even sexy quality in the unlikeliest corners of Calatrava's output. It's there in his bridges and transit stations, which are often topped with curving, undulant structures that hint at a feminine languor, of which I think the architect is at least partly aware.

The evidence is in his preparatory doodlings for projects like the Liege Railway station in Belgium, which include a watercolor sketch of a voluptuously reclining female nude; the station roof's curves echo hers. There's more of this kind of thing in his Fordham Spire sketchbook, which is full of lithe dancers straight out of Matisse.

Joining the boys club

Then there are Calatrava's interior spaces, many of which are as genital as anything in the famously humid flower paintings of Georgia O'Keefe. (The artist always denied that she intended any such imagery, and maybe she didn't, but failing to see it requires an act of willful blindness.) The exterior of Calatrava's addition to the Milwaukee Art Museum is often compared to a bird spreading its wings, but look inside at the main hall and you'll see, in its bisected ceiling and related ornaments, wings of a different sort.

It's a tricky business, politically and otherwise, to impute gender characteristics to inanimate objects, but of course we do it all the time. In our Anglo-Saxon lexicon, ships are female; so are certain countries and, in fact, the Earth. In the Romance languages, including Calatrava's native tongue, every noun is assigned a feminine or masculine article. If he thinks of bridges, airport terminals, train stations and even skyscrapers in terms of the female, why not?

And if this produces a building that adds a fresh element to the boys club of Chicago architecture, cherchez la femme.

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OFF THE GROUND
Developer stands tall in defense of work

Thomas A. Corfman
Published July 26, 2005

Christopher Carley is an unlikely candidate to develop North America's tallest building. He has a recent track record of projects that--despite their quality--have struggled to reach the financial finish line.

The chairman of Chicago-based Fordham Co. rejects such criticism, saying his projects are as profitable as those of his rivals.

"We've made money on all of our buildings," he said.

Like many developers, Carley, 62, is a relentless promoter who rarely acknowledges a project's downside. Yet unlike most of his rivals, he lacks an outsized ego.

That perspective may be due to a bout he had with intestinal cancer in 1995, seven years after starting Fordham. Since then, he has been an active fundraiser for cancer research.

Before Fordham, the Chicago native and Marquette University graduate was an executive with Dallas real estate firm Trammell Crow Co.

But his projects haven't been without challenges, including the Pinnacle, a 48-story condo tower at 21 E. Huron St., which he calls a "home run."

"Unfunded costs" to complete the high-rise forced his lenders, Chicago-based Corus Bank and pension fund National Electrical Benefit Fund, to fork over an additional $17 million as part of a June 23 refinancing, a loan document shows.

Yet other lenders competed for the refinancing, a sign of the project's ultimate success.

Slow sales have marked another project, 65 E. Goethe St., a 24-unit, eight-story building that still has one unit to sell after five years of marketing.

And in September, a lender obtained title to 18 unsold condo units, a 188-car garage and retail space in the Fordham, a 50-story tower at 25 E. Superior St. Sales of those assets will offset the balance on the loan and give the lender "a healthy, competitive return," Carley said.

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St-T
26 July 2005, 11:32 AM
I want one!!!

RobertB
26 July 2005, 12:25 PM
I want one!!!
Well, we're getting one (or more) of the guy's bridges, at least. I have to say, the concept for the unique shape of the building is downright *pretty* (as noted by the commentator who pointed out the feminine lines of Calatrava's previous projects). It'll be interesting to see how the building responds to Chicago's famous winds -- would colored smoke from the sidewalk swirl up the sides into the sky?

Also, I'm surprised none of the articles mentions that the building would one-up NYC's proposed Freedom Tower. If the Tall Building Wars have returned to our shores, can Dallas be far behind?

CTroyMathis
26 July 2005, 12:33 PM
I left out the article from this morning or last night that mentions the Freedom Tower.

CTroyMathis
26 July 2005, 12:36 PM
A couple more articles:



Tallest tower to twist rivals
Trump blasts iffy edifice that would put his in shadow

By Blair Kamin and Thomas A. Corfman
Tribune staff reporters
Published July 26, 2005

It would twist into the sky over Chicago's lakefront like an oversized birthday candle, surpassing Sears Tower and the planned Freedom Tower in New York as the nation's tallest building.

It might, or might not, be built. But it already is drawing fire from Donald Trump, who scaled back his plans for a record-shattering Chicago tower of comparable height after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

A far less well known developer, Chicago's Christopher Carley, will unveil his proposal Wednesday for a slender, 115-story tower with a steel spire that could soar higher than 2,000 feet.

Designed by superstar Spanish-born architect and engineer Santiago Calatrava, the skyscraper would rise next to Lake Shore Drive and near the entrance to Navy Pier. Its tapering glass facade would ripple like folds of drapery.

For Carley, the chairman of Fordham Co., the planned hotel and condo tower would be taller than the combined height of his last three previous projects: two towers of roughly 50 stories and an eight-story structure.

Financing for his latest project has not yet been arranged, and will largely depend on achieving prices rarely seen in a downtown market. "Is this going to get done?" Carley said. "It'll be market-driven."

But the ambitious proposal, to be called Fordham Spire, would dramatically shift the focus of Chicago's skyline, and it likely faces community opposition and the challenge of obtaining financing in what some are calling an overheated real estate market.

In addition, some contend, it must confront the specter of terrorism.

"In this climate," said Trump, whose tower might compete with the new skyscraper for luxury condominium buyers, "I would not want to build that building. Nor would I want to live in that building.

"Any bank that would put up money to build a building like that would be insane," he said.

Carley shot back that Trump's Chicago tower is playing in the same supertall league because it will be 1,360 feet tall, just 90 feet less than Sears.

"I wonder where the insanity limit is. It must be just over 1,360 feet," he said.

The verbal jousting suggests that Fordham Spire offers a test of whether the nation's post-Sept. 11 fear of heights is easing, nearly four years after hijacked jetliners crashed into the World Trade Center. Some experts say they see less fear on the skyline.

"I remember after 9/11 a lot of people announcing the end of the skyscraper," said Ron Klemencic, chairman of the Chicago-based Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, which monitors skyscraper construction worldwide. Now, he said, "the aversion to building tall . . . has diminished."

The Tribune revealed in May that Carley was working with Calatrava--the architect of the bird-like Milwaukee Art Museum addition, the Athens Olympics sports complex and the planned transportation center at Ground Zero--to design a tower on at least one of two sites along the west side of Lake Shore Drive and the north bank of the Chicago River.

Under Carley's plan, those sites would be combined into a single 2.2-acre parcel at 346 E. North Water St. The area is now an unruly patch, filled with overgrown grass, gravel, trees and a construction trailer.

From it would sprout a tower utterly different from the boxy forms found elsewhere on the Chicago skyline: A skyscraper with gently curving, concave outer walls attached to a massive reinforced concrete core.

Each floor would rotate a little more than 2 degrees from the one below. The floors would turn 270 degrees around the core as they rise, making the building appear to twist.

A spire above would soar to roughly 2,000 feet, making Fordham Spire taller than the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower, scheduled for completion in 2010, but not as tall as a tower now being built in the United Arab Emirates.

Called the Burj Dubai and designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill of Chicago, that behemoth is expected to reach to about 2,300 feet--the actual height is a closely guarded secret--and become the world's tallest building when it is finished in late 2008.

Currently, the world's tallest building is the Taipei 101 in Taiwan, a 101-story structure that rises about 1,670 feet.

Calatrava denied that topping the 1,450-foot Sears Tower was his, or the developer's, objective. He contended the Fordham Spire's height reflected his search for ideal proportions.

The goal "is not the highest, or the widest, but a building that wants to be special, a step beyond," he said in an interview from his Zurich office.

Carley added: "If I had my druthers, I'd like to have Sears retain the title. If Santiago thinks it's essential, fine."

Still, because of its height, the tower can be expected to become a lightning rod for opposition in the affluent, highly organized Streeterville neighborhood.

"Some people will be excited to have a landmark in their neighborhood, and some people are going to be horrified that they're going to have such a tall building so close to them," said Jim Houston, president of the Streeterville Organization of Active Residents.

The influential neighborhood group has not yet taken a position on the project.

After protests from neighbors about blocked views and increased traffic congestion, the area's alderman, Burton Natarus (42nd), recently announced he would oppose the Fourth Presbyterian Church's plan to erect a 64-story residential tower on a portion of its historic Michigan Avenue property.

But the usually cautious Natarus said Monday that he supports the Calatrava tower.

"It's going to put Chicago on the map," he said. "I'm not concerned about height. And I'm not concerned about density, because it's a sliver."

Carley and Calatrava noted that the skyscraper's thin profile--it would have just 920,000 total square feet, compared with 4.5 million for Sears Tower--would make it a benign, not overbearing, presence along the city's lakefront.

That is far better, they maintain, than two towers of roughly 50 and 35 stories, which current zoning allows. Towers of that size would be far more bulky and cast greater shadows, the developer and architect argue.

"The tower is without any doubt tall, but it is not big. It is very slender. It is extremely slender," Calatrava said.

At City Hall, reaction to the project was guarded.

"We saw the plan and we'll consider it," said Connie Buscemi, a spokeswoman for the city's Department of Planning and Development.

Besides the political hurdles, Carley must confront history, which shows that it is easy to unveil plans for a supertall tower but far harder to get one built.

Since the 110-story Sears Tower was built in 1974, several developers have floated plans for supertall towers in Chicago, including the 125-story Miglin-Beitler Tower in 1989 and the 112-story 7 S. Dearborn project in 1999.

Yet only Trump actually has gotten such a project under way. His 92-story hotel and condo tower is now under construction along the Chicago River.

Still, Carley has less product to sell than Trump. Even though it would be taller than the Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago, the Fordham Spire would have far fewer units--about 200 hotel rooms compared with 286 for Trump, and between 200 and 250 condos compared with 472 for Trump.

Carley said formal marketing will not begin until September, and construction will not start until there are sales agreements for about 40 percent of the units. He wants to break ground in March and finish in 2009.

Prices at the Fordham Spire must average $650 a square foot just for Carley to break even, sources said, making the project one of the most expensive in the city and approaching Trump's, where the prices are said to average $750 a square foot since marketing began. That translates, roughly, to condos valued at between $6.5 million and $7.5 million.

And local developers were skeptical of Carley's plan, citing escalating construction costs.

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How it stacks up

- 2,000 feet to top of spire, taller than the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower

- 920,000 total square feet, compared with 4.5 million for Sears Tower

- Up to 250 condos, compared with 472 for Trump's Chicago tower

- Condos would likely be valued between $6.5 million and $7.5 million

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Tallest building in North America proposed

A proposed hotel and condominium building on the lakefront would tower over other Chicago landmarks.

CHICAGO

Fordham Spire / Proposed

2,000 ft.

115 floors

Sears Tower

1,450 ft.

110 floors

Trump Tower / Under construction

1,136 ft.

83 floors

Aon Center

1,360 ft.

92 floors

John Hancock Center

1,127 ft.

100 floors

NEW YORK

Freedom Tower / Planned

1,776 ft.

82 floors

Note: Antennae are not included in a building's height. A spire may be considered an architectural component of the building and be included in the height. Renderings are not in proportionate scale. Ceiling heights may differ, accounting for numbers of floors.

Sources: The Fordham Co., Emporis

Chicago Tribune

- See microfilm for complete graphic.

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bkamin@tribune.com

tcorfman@tribune.com







Chicago: Fear of Heights?
Some Experts Fret That Plans
To Build Tallest U.S. Tower
Will Pop Real Estate Market

By ALEX FRANGOS
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
July 26, 2005; Page A17

There will be plenty of oohs and aahs tomorrow when Chicago developer Fordham Co. unveils plans to erect the tallest building in the U.S., a 115-story, torquing condominium-and-hotel tower designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava.

But there also are likely to be questions from people who study the residential real-estate market: Will this pointed tower on the shores of Lake Michigan be the pin that pricks Chicago's condo bubble?

Chicago, along with the rest of the country, has been condo crazy the past few years. The Windy City will add 7,499 newly built units this year, down 33% from 2004 but still among the top three nationwide, according to Property & Portfolio Research, Inc. and Reed Construction Data. Only Miami and San Diego are building more. Donald Trump, for one, has a big condo project under way on the banks of the Chicago River. Meanwhile, nationally, median condo prices hit a high in June at $223,500, up 15% from the year before, according to the National Association of Realtors.

With for-sale signs plastered on new condo buildings everywhere, Chicago real-estate experts say the high end of the market may be cracking. "I would be quite hesitant to put up more residential units in Chicago," says Louis G. Conforti, head of Chicago-based real-estate investment company Greenwood Group LLC. "We've had a shipload of project come online in the last three years," he says. "The market is slowing."
[Tower photo]
Reaching 2,000 feet at its spire's tip, the 115-story tower would be the nation's tallest, with 250 condo units and a luxury hotel.



Christopher T. Carley, the tower's developer, is undeterred. He predicts his chances of success with the $400 million-plus structure as "better than any building I've ever built." Still, he says he wants to sell half the units before construction. If the demand doesn't materialize, neither will the tower.

Chicagoans have consistently gobbled up high-end pads in the condo towers that have gone up in recent years, he adds. The demographic group he covets are baby boomers moving to the city from the suburbs, after "the last kid goes to college and the dog dies," along with 30-something professionals with money and no kids.

He's attracting them in part with the flair of Mr. Calatrava, who also is a sculptor and is well known for his bird-like extension to the Milwaukee Museum of Art, 90 minutes north of Chicago. Mr. Calatrava likens the trim skyscraper he has designed to the knotty curves of a tree trunk or a person twisting. On the phone from his Valencia, Spain, studio, the Iberian denied that the tower looks like a drill bit on its end: "It has more to do with a natural sense of growth and verticality than in any metallic tool-like object," he says.

Dubbed the Fordham Spire, the tower will reach 2,000 feet at its tip, higher than the symbolic 1,776 feet for the planned Freedom Tower at the site of the World Trade Center in New York and well above the nearby Sears Tower, which at 1,353 feet is currently the tallest in the U.S. Tallest in the world is Taipei 101, standing 1,671 feet in Taiwan's capital city. A new global height champion is under construction in Dubai that will top 2,300 feet when finished in 2008.

If built, the Fordham Spire will probably remain the nation's tallest building: The Federal Aviation Administration doesn't allow structures above 2,000 feet. "The height is not a statement," Mr. Calatrava says. "It doesn't need to be the tallest. It's just the right proportion." Mr. Carley concurs: "I just want a beautiful landmark building for Chicago."

The skyscraper will have around 250 units, plus a 200-room luxury hotel. Fordham is looking for a hotel partner. Ringing the base will be townhouses, restaurants and retail stores.

Besides the Milwaukee Art Musuem, Mr. Calatrava is renowned for building soaring, almost skeletal-looking structures. His recent projects include the roof of the Olympic stadium in Athens, an opera house in Tenerife, Spain, and an apartment building in Malmo, Sweden, called Turning Torso. He also is designing a $2 billion transit hub and underground concourse at the World Trade Center site.

The new tower would compete with Mr. Trump's 92-story condominium and hotel, now under construction on the site of the old Chicago Sun-Times building about a mile away. Buyers have placed deposits on 80% of the units there, according to the company. But with at least half a dozen other superluxury projects in Chicago, it isn't clear that there are enough rich buyers around to fill a project as ambitious, and as expensive, as Fordham's. Costs will be above $850 a square foot, a level Mr. Conforti says is hard to sustain in Chicago.

There are other obstacles: Mr. Carley is in contract to buy the plot, but the deal is contingent on city approval of a key zoning change. The sellers are a joint venture of JER Partners, a unit of J.E. Robert Cos., and LR Development Co, a unit of Related Cos.

Another question: Do people want to live at such great heights? Businesses have expressed trepidation at taking thin-air space in landmark structures. The Sears Tower is 30% vacant, and no one has signed up for space in the Freedom Tower.

Signs of sluggishness dot the Chicago real-estate landscape. A handful of projects have suffered slower-than-expected sales, forcing developers to restructure loans or cede unsold units to banks. This spring, Mr. Carley refinanced a $53 million loan on a 50-story condo tower when the units sold more slowly than expected. He says the refinancing took advantage of lower interest rates.

Of course, plans for tall buildings get thrown out as often as socks with holes in them. Daniel Burhnam, one of Chicago's great 19th century architects and builder of the 1893 World's Fair, famously said, "Make no little plans."

texman
26 July 2005, 02:17 PM
I love the building, but does it really fit in with Chicago..? Oh well, Midwest Architecture needs to get more diverse anyhow, I mean, isnt that we love the Dallas skyline?

Tnekster
26 July 2005, 04:22 PM
^This is the third or fourth time a new "world's tallest" has been proposed in Chicago and they have been trying to get something up over 100 floors since the proposed the Dearborn Tower in the 80's. I wonder if this one will fly. It certainly is the best looking of anything I have seen so far and trumps the Trump tower for sure.

Are there any rendering of this "supertower" in Dubai?

RobertB
26 July 2005, 04:44 PM
^This is the third or fourth time a new "world's tallest" has been proposed in Chicago and they have been trying to get something up over 100 floors since the proposed the Dearborn Tower in the 80's. I wonder if this one will fly. It certainly is the best looking of anything I have seen so far and trumps the Trump tower for sure.

Are there any rendering of this "supertower" in Dubai?
Dubai, heck... I'd like to see a rendering of a tower like the Fordham proposal in Dallas. :)

... I'd put one together, but my skills are better suited to the two-dimensional realm. I'd like to put it at the site of the current Pilgrim's Pride Chicken Plant, between Good-Latimer and Old Central south of I-30. That lines it up perfectly with my Downtown Subway.

Tnekster
26 July 2005, 05:11 PM
^Would they ever do a tower of that height here? I mean with all the airplanes flying around downtown going into Love.

texman
27 July 2005, 01:03 AM
^Would they ever do a tower of that height here?
NO. Other than a mega tower killing the Downtown office market, would anyone really want Dallas to have the World's tallest building...? Maybe in Texas though...

frankchitown
27 July 2005, 01:06 AM
I would just be happy with a couple 1000+ footers, or even one

gc
27 July 2005, 02:07 AM
I am sorry for asking. I have not read through all of the supporting articles, but is this really a likely development or is it just a fantasy tower?

rantanamo
27 July 2005, 03:25 AM
"In this climate," said Trump, whose tower might compete with the new skyscraper for luxury condominium buyers, "I would not want to build that building. Nor would I want to live in that building.

"Any bank that would put up money to build a building like that would be insane," he said.

Carley shot back that Trump's Chicago tower is playing in the same supertall league because it will be 1,360 feet tall, just 90 feet less than Sears.

"I wonder where the insanity limit is. It must be just over 1,360 feet," he said.

LOL


t's not known if the residents will buy that argument. Rosalie Harris, executive director of the Streeterville Organization of Active Residents, said the group has been shown only a few details of the project and not enough on which to form an opinion.

The group orchestrated a campaign against a proposed 64-story tower near the landmark Fourth Presbyterian Church at Michigan and Delaware, causing the local alderman to come out against it.


Does anyone know this part of downtown Chicago? What kind of buildings are in that area?

freewaytincan
27 July 2005, 03:47 AM
I don't think I like the twisted look.

CTroyMathis
27 July 2005, 10:45 AM
Streeterville/SOAR is located here :
http://www.soarchicago.org/images/streeterville_map.gif

Here is the sat map of the nabe (dead center, same shape as map above) :
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=chicago,+il&ll=41.895186,-87.618799&spn=0.015690,0.029273&t=k&hl=en

I live way up north of there.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=N+Sheridan+Rd,+Chicago,+IL&spn=0.003917,0.007318&t=k&hl=en

freewaytincan
27 July 2005, 11:16 AM
That's where you live?!

CTroyMathis
27 July 2005, 11:34 AM
The west side of Sheridan - not the lakefront property.

From what I hear, SOAR may not be too big of an issue considering the exact site. But, then again - it's early.

RobertB
27 July 2005, 01:00 PM
NO. Other than a mega tower killing the Downtown office market, would anyone really want Dallas to have the World's tallest building...? Maybe in Texas though...
Other than the valid concerns about the office market and the economics, why wouldn't we want Dallas to have the world's tallest building? I would certainly hope that fear of attack isn't the reason.

frankchitown
28 July 2005, 02:01 AM
I would love for Dallas to have the WTB, but it would look rather strange standing 1000+ ft taller than anything else around it. It would be a more realistic goal to steal the state's tallest title, southwest, or west of the mississipi title.

X Factor
28 July 2005, 02:26 AM
A bad phootshop job, but what can I say its late...

psukhu
28 July 2005, 10:49 AM
I would love for Dallas to have the WTB, but it would look rather strange standing 1000+ ft taller than anything else around it. It would be a more realistic goal to steal the state's tallest title, southwest, or west of the mississipi title.

Dallas could easily have the tallest N. American building outside of Chicago and NYC by building something taller than 1023 feet. (Atlanta currently has that title.) Even Cleveland has a taller building than BoA in Dallas and Houston has two!!!



# Building City Feet Floors Year
1. Taipei 101 Taipei 1,671 101 2004
2. Petronas 1 Kuala Lumpur 1,483 88 1998
3. Petronas 2 Kuala Lumpur 1,483 88 1998
4. Sears Tower Chicago 1,450 108 1974
5. Jin Mao Tower Shanghai 1,380 88 1998
6. Two Intl Fin. Hong Kong 1,362 88 2003
7. CITIC Plaza Guangzhou 1,283 80 1997
8. Shun Hing Sq Shenzhen 1,260 69 1996
9. Empire State New York City 1,250 102 1931
10. Central Plaza Hong Kong 1,227 78 1992

11. Bank of China Hong Kong 1,205 72 1990
12. Emirates Office Dubai 1,163 54 2000
13. Tuntex Sky Kaohsiung 1,140 85 1997
14. Aon Center Chicago 1,136 83 1973
15. The Center Hong Kong 1,135 73 1998
16. John Hancock Chicago 1,127 100 1969
17. Shimao Intl Shanghai 1,093 60 2005
18. Wuhan Intl Wuhan 1,087 68 2005
19. Ryugyong Hotel Pyongyang 1,083 105 1992
20. Q1 Tower Gold Coast City 1,058 78 2005

21. Burj Al Arab Dubai 1,053 60 1999
22. Chrysler Bld. New York City 1,046 77 1930
23. Nina Tower I Hong Kong 1,046 80 2005
24. Bank of America Atlanta 1,023 55 1992
25. US Bank Tower Los Angeles 1,018 73 1989
26. Menara Telekom Kuala Lumpur 1,017 55 2001
27. Jumeirah Emir. Dubai 309 m 1,014 56 2000
28. AT&T Center Chicago 1,007 60 1989
29. JPMorganChase Houston 1,002 75 1982
30. Baiyoke II Bangkok 997 85 1997

31. Two Prudential Chicago 995 64 1990
32. Kingdom Centre Riyadh 992 41 2002
33. First Canadian Toronto 978 72 1976
34. Yokohama Tower Yokohama 972 70 1993
35. Wells Fargo Pl. Houston 972 71 1983
36. 311 S. Wacker Chicago 961 65 1990
37. SEG Plaza Shenzhen 957 70 2000
38. Amer. Intl. New York City 952 66 1932
39. Key Tower Cleveland 947 57 1991
40. Plaza 66 Shanghai 945 66 2001

41. One Liberty Pl. Philadelphia 945 61 1987
42. Bank of America Seattle 937 76 1985
43. Tomorrow Square Shanghai 934 55 2003
44. Chongqing WTC Chongqing 929 60 2005
45. Cheung Kong Ctr Hong Kong 928 62 1999
46. Trump Building New York City 927 70 1930
47. Bank of America Dallas 921 72 1985

ds

barrycb
16 August 2005, 08:16 PM
Dallas could easily have the tallest N. American building outside of Chicago and NYC by building something taller than 1023 feet. (Atlanta currently has that title.) Even Cleveland has a taller building than BoA in Dallas and Houston has two!!!


Yea, but Atlanta's building is cheating (only 55 floors with all the lattice work on top).

Regarding the Fordham Spire building, does 250 hotel rooms and 250 condo's = 1,458 ft? It seems like they are building tall for tall's sake (not that there's anything wrong with that).

rantanamo
16 August 2005, 08:41 PM
Calatrava says the very tall height is a result of balance and symmetry or something like that. The interview with him is somewhere in the 1,000 pages of posting in the SSP thread on the building.

Mephis Gooseberry
29 March 2006, 04:37 PM
Chicago may get country's tallest building

02:21 PM CST on Wednesday, March 29, 2006
Bloomberg News


A proposed condominium and hotel tower that would be the tallest building in North America won approval from the Chicago City Council today, clearing the way for construction to start later this year.

The council approved a measure that raises the height limit on structures at the site to accommodate the 2,000-foot tower. The building, named the Fordham Spire, would top Chicago's Sears Tower and the planned Freedom Tower in New York as the tallest in North America.

The building was designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava and has a twisting design that resembles a drill bit.

“It's really unique and different, and that's a great symbol,” Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley said at a press conference outside the council chambers. “We have great skyscrapers here.”

The $550 million, 124-story building to be developed by the Fordham Co. will have about 300 condominiums, 250,000 square feet of hotel space, retail stores and restaurants. It will overlook the Chicago River where it meets Lake Michigan.

Fordham has said construction will begin around the end of the year, and the building should be completed by 2010.

Fordham representatives didn't immediately return messages seeking comment today.

Fordham Chairman Chris Carley has said he already has reservations for 30 of the condominiums and will take more starting in April. The condos, which will start at about 700 square feet, may sell for more than $1,000 a square foot, according to Carley.

Fordham is a closely held real estate developer based in Chicago and founded by Carley in 1988. The company has other developments in Chicago's Gold Coast and North Michigan Avenue areas.

Carley has said he plans to name the hotel operator, a five-star operator new to Chicago, in coming weeks.

frankchitown
29 March 2006, 04:54 PM
Here's a rendering from SSP...

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9954/3465793b727ffp3453enu3d32383e8.jpg

gc
30 March 2006, 01:04 AM
Uhm, wow.

frankchitown
30 March 2006, 01:24 AM
I fell in love with this building after the redesign from a 270 to a 360 degree twist and the new spire. STR's models on SSP show the building integrated with the skyline, its going to be beautiful if its built. I'm sure Donald Trump is pissed that FS is stealing the spotlight from Trump Tower.

gc
30 March 2006, 01:31 AM
Anyone else have other good updates in Chi-town (links)?

frankchitown
30 March 2006, 02:11 AM
Lakeshore East (http://www.lakeshoreeast.com/index.html) is an up-and-coming development just across the river from the Fordham site. My favorite proposal in Lakeshore East is Aqua (http://www.studiogang.net/studiogang.net/projects/pages/lakeshoreeast.html), pictured below. This new development along with new proposals south of the loop near Soldier Field is going to box in Grant Park, with exeption of the lake shore.

Aqua

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/1320/rendering6qx.jpg

gc
30 March 2006, 02:17 AM
Thanks for satisfying my laziness

CTroyMathis
16 November 2006, 03:13 PM
Looks like a favorite 2K-footer has a new name, The Chicago Spire.
Since this thread hasn't had much of an update in ages, it's also looking at around 124 stories.

(That's after another previous name change where Fordham Spire was changed to the street address, 400 N. Lake Shore Dr.)

Geaux Tigers
16 November 2006, 03:39 PM
"The Chicago Spire". Very creative.

ajmstilt
16 November 2006, 03:47 PM
"The Chicago Spire". Very creative.

Except this is the one building that could prolly get away with that name....

on another note DTD could use a 1100' give it about 10 more years of Uptown and Victory filling up and we can build that 1100 on the shores of the new Trinity river lake (sans tollroad)

/end dreaming

CTroyMathis
09 December 2006, 11:40 AM
A look at the re-design:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4522/spirexk7.jpg

CTroyMathis
09 December 2006, 11:41 AM
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6690/chicagospirequ5.jpg
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5650/chicagospirenavypierbt4.jpg
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/graphic/2006-12/26775311.jpg

Tnekster
09 December 2006, 01:46 PM
Yikes! That is tall. How many floors is it with the redesign?

incrediculous
09 December 2006, 01:57 PM
What is on that pier?

drycreek
09 December 2006, 03:49 PM
Why did they lose the cool twisty crown stuff? I liked the first design a lot more.

incrediculous
09 December 2006, 03:55 PM
Major redesign is latest twist in plan for spire (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-0612070161dec07,0,3474254.story?coll=chi-business-hed)

By Blair Kamin
Tribune architecture critic
Published December 7, 2006

The proposed "drill bit" skyscraper has lost its point but gained some heft.

The developer of the twisting spire, which would be the nation's tallest building, has overseen a top-to-bottom redesign that seeks to make the much-ballyhooed project financially feasible, and he will submit his revised plans to the city Friday, people close to the project told the Tribune.

Designed by renowned Spanish architect and engineer Santiago Calatrava for Dublin-based developer Garrett Kelleher, the tower no longer has a 400-foot broadcast antenna at its top or a hotel at its base. It is now all condominiums, 1,300 of them. The portion that modern-day cliff dwellers would live in has grown taller and wider, doubling the amount of sellable space to about 1.8 million square feet, said people associated with the project.

"It's all in the service of getting it built," said Kelleher's spokesman, Chicago lawyer Thomas Murphy. "If you're not going to have the broadcast tower, what are you going to have up there?"

Murphy hinted last week that the broadcast tower would be eliminated, saying, "the decision was not to get into a business that we don't know anything about." The Irish-born Kelleher worked in the Chicago real estate market from 1986 to 1996 but has no experience in broadcast towers.

His new plan calls for a 150-story building, with a total of 3 million square feet. That's 35 more floors than in the original design unveiled in 2005 by the project's initial developer, Christopher Carley, and 26 more than in Carley's revised version of the tower. The 1,300 condominium units would nearly triple the number of condominium and hotel units Carley envisioned in both plans. Kelleher assumed control of the project last summer after Carley's drive to build it sputtered.

The cost of the project has been estimated at around $1.2 billion, but developers recently backed off from that figure without providing a new one.

Because of the changes, Kelleher needs to go through a new round of city planning and zoning hearings for the project, which the Chicago Plan Commission approved in March when it consisted of a 150-room hotel and about 300 condos priced from about $600,000 to $5 million. While political approval is not expected to be difficult, it is unclear whether a slowing real estate market will support the colossal venture.

Soil-testing work started

The skyscraper would be built on an empty site along Lake Shore Drive and on the north bank of the Chicago River. On Wednesday, a yellow bulldozer smoothed earth on the site's north side. A sign posted on a chain-link fence bore the name of Kelleher's company, Shelbourne Development Ltd. The bulldozer was doing soil-testing work, which has turned up old foundations, Murphy said.

During a Tuesday interview, Calatrava, whose works include the birdlike addition to the Milwaukee Art Museum and the planned transportation center at the World Trade Center in New York, confirmed that he has signed a contract with Kelleher for full design and construction supervision services.

The architect expressed pleasure that the building's simplified top, in which the tower's twisting curves would culminate in metal fins protruding slightly above the roof, no longer resembles the needlelike spires of the Empire State and Chrysler Buildings, New York's two great Art Deco towers.

"We don't want to imitate something before," Calatrava said at the interview, held in the offices of the associate architects for the project, Chicago-based Perkins + Will.

"I am learning from Chicago," Zurich-based Calatrava added, using his ever-present sketch pad in an attempt to show how his tower recalled the simple silhouettes of the John Hancock Center and Sears Tower, the nation's tallest building.

Indeed, the skyscraper's form has become less twisty.

In the version approved in March, each floor rotated slightly above the one below it, and the tower made a 360-degree rotation as it rose. In the latest version, the total rotation has been cut to 270 degrees. There is more rotation now at the base and none at the top, Calatrava said.

Floors at the tower's base have become about 35 feet wider, Murphy said, but "the shape is the same" because the building is both taller and wider, he said.

The redesign extends to ground level, where plans for an adjacent six-story parking garage have been scrapped and replaced with seven stories of underground parking. That likely will prove an expensive shift because Kelleher will need to add a concrete "bathtub" to insulate the facility from groundwater.

Kelleher thought the garage's presence would blight the jewel-like tower, Murphy said.

The tower's footprint also has been moved slightly to the north, putting it just north of North Water Street, the small east-west street that slices through the Streeterville neighborhood and stops at the foot of the skyscraper's site.

That shift opens space for a circular drive to the south of the tower, as well as a grand plaza that would punctuate the end of the riverfront promenade leading to Lake Michigan from Michigan Avenue.

A `holistic vision'

And as he revealed with a model of the skyscraper, Calatrava has been laying out plans for the area around it, including pedestrian connections beneath Lake Shore Drive to the planned DuSable Park to the east. The model includes one of his signature cable-supported bridges, which would form a link in the lakefront bike path and swing open to allow boats to pass.

"This is a more holistic vision," Calatrava said.

Basic aspects of the design remain unchanged. The tower still would have a central core of concrete, ringed by concrete columns and floor space cantilevering outward from them. Its exterior wall would be made of glass and a still-to-be-determined metal to make the tower look light and reflective in contrast to the black skyline brackets of Sears and the Hancock.

But to accommodate the shift to all condominiums, Calatrava included four banks of elevators within the tower's circular core, one each for low-rise, middle low-rise, middle high-rise and high-rise units, respectively.

The plan remains to break ground in the second quarter of 2007, Murphy said.

Tnekster
09 December 2006, 03:59 PM
150 floors?

CTroyMathis
09 December 2006, 07:36 PM
What is on that pier?

Assuming you mean the pier with all the 'entertainment' structures on it, then that is Navy Pier (http://www.navypier.com/).

dfwcre8tive
20 April 2007, 02:54 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/20/tallest.building.ap/index.html

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The city's planning board has endorsed a proposal for a twisting lakefront tower that would become the nation's tallest building.

With Thursday's approval from the Chicago Plan Commission, the design and site plan for the 2,000-foot Chicago Spire goes to the city zoning committee next week.

...

warlock55
10 May 2007, 02:51 PM
Yesterday the city council approved construction. :woot:

CTroyMathis
17 June 2007, 03:27 PM
Might as well update the rendering. : )




http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/327/cslgdc0.jpg

frankchitown
17 June 2007, 04:16 PM
Cool, I haven't seen that one yet. I like the Calavatra pedestrian bridge, but I wish they would have redesigned the LSD bridge with pedestrian access instead of building another one.

Tnekster
17 June 2007, 11:42 PM
That tower seems very thin, how do they squeeze enough elevator shafts into it? Or do those on the top floors have to get off and change elevators three times?

rantanamo
18 June 2007, 05:18 AM
keep in mind the sheer height. I think the notion of it being thin is just an illusion.

frankchitown
18 June 2007, 04:58 PM
This shows the elevator core at the base. Although this is from the previous design (without the tapered top), I imagine the rest hasn't changed much.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1572/800px400nlsdfloorplansqz8.jpg

MarkL2023
21 June 2007, 03:11 AM
that pedestrian bridge looks almost exactly like a bridge he did in spain. El alamillo i believe. Some of the locals have affectionately nicknamed it after a certain male part.

grantboston
21 June 2007, 07:38 PM
^ Looks almost IDENTICAL to the "Women's Bridge" (translated) Calatrava built in Buenos Aires.

http://www.gonomad.com/destinations/0605/buenos%20images/WomansBridge.jpg

One trick pony, that Santiago... :)