My city v. Your city chatter

[tamtagon]

Maybe this will help.

The Dallas Metropolitian Area tops 6 million in population. Folks in Houston doubt the count, and point out the municipal population of their city. Folks in Dallas find examples which may indicate a diminished presence of Fort Worth as a vital part of the Metropolitian area. Art lovers wonder why on earth the Nasher Sculpture Center was not built in Fort Worth.

High noon, OK corral. Try to back up your claims with facts (of course not necessary with this discussion), and remember the San Antonio Spurs are the best basketball team.

[St-T]

Lol Lol

[TexasStar]

Of course, Houston doesn't really exist. It's just a tale, disturbing images of a huge and horrible place used to frighten young Dallasites into obeying their parents. As if any rational person would elect to LIVE in such a nightmarish expanse of concrete, chemical plants, and humidity.

What's next? Is someone going to actually suggest that Arlington is a real?
Sorry, that would really be absurd.

[hamiltonpl]

Both cities have great attributes. However, many folks on that Houston forum have an immense inferiority complex about Houston.

They react as if Houston will crumble in seconds if Dallas has one success.

Oh well, I don't want to get too serious about it.

Here is a better topic: "Fort Worth is actually Houston." Please discuss.

[aceplace]

Both cities have great attributes. However, many folks on that Houston forum have an immense inferiority complex about Houston. Good point. Some in Houston feel that their city is inferior and they are angry about it. In metro Dallas, they don't feel threatened by Houston.

[psukhu]

I think Houston is a nice place. It is not bigger than [metro] Philly or [metro] Boston or [metro] Dallas.

However, people do have the right to say want they want. They have the right to say that Houston is bigger than the metros listed above.

It is also their right to make business decisions based the understanding that Houston is bigger. The free market economy will deal with them. (Fiscal Darwinism? :D)

[Mballar]

Can anyone point to a direct correlation between city size and the "greatness" of a city? In other words. . .just because Houston has more people than Dallas, does that make Houston a greater city than Dallas? I think not. Certainly not when it comes to current/upcomming development projects. Dallas is blowing Houston out of the water. This is a fact that Houstonians are hard pressed to deny. Just look at their forum. It is replete with Houstonians' envious statements regarding Victory, Uptown, DART Light Rail, Trinity River Project, Arts District expansion, etc.

[St-T]

I think San Francisco is a prime example of a great city w/ a small population.

Houston is a sprawling mess.

[hamiltonpl]

Miami is another metro that has a small city (362,000) but a huge metropolitan area (2.2 million).

[rantanamo]

let's please not be SSC or HAF forum. We have plenty to talk about in the metroplex.

[The Great Hizzy!]

LMAO!

[tamtagon]

let's please not be SSC or HAF forum. We have plenty to talk about in the metroplex.

It must be spring fever or something, but the Dallas/Fort Worth, Fort Worth and Houston forums all have the same irritating rash.

I started this thread hoping to keep other threads on topic. Once it all dies down, I'm move this thread out of the public forum, then revive it as necessary. It will be fun to see if over time, the story remains the same, or if creativity elevates the name-calling to new levels.

People in Dallas and Houston can bitch all they want, San Antonio is still the best city in Texas (although I would not want to live there all the time).

[Fobulous]

H-town is just a little too ghetto.

[hamiltonpl]

Ghetto FABULOUS

[Mballar]

Bling Bling!

[trolleygirl]

I think El Paso is good example of a dump with a HUGE population.

See there? Sometimes, size really doesn't matter.

[yaga]

Can anyone point to a direct correlation between city size and the "greatness" of a city? In other words. . .just because Houston has more people than Dallas, does that make Houston a greater city than Dallas? I think not. Certainly not when it comes to current/upcomming development projects. Dallas is blowing Houston out of the water. This is a fact that Houstonians are hard pressed to deny. Just look at their forum. It is replete with Houstonians' envious statements regarding Victory, Uptown, DART Light Rail, Trinity River Project, Arts District expansion, etc.


I would agree that the Dallas forum is a little more focused and well informed when it comes to discussing urban development and architecture in Dallas. It seems that a few knucklehead forumers have lessened the quality of discussion on HAIF.

But I wouldn't say that Dallas is "blowing Houston out of the water" when it comes to current/upcoming development projects.

[hamiltonpl]

Houston really does have some great stuff in its downtown. I don't know why they are so insecure.

[St-T]

Actually, I think it will be very interesting to observe what happens to both of these cities in 10-20 years. Houston has spurred their urban redev on sports arenas and events related to that. Dallas is betting its future on the arts and quality of life (Trinity Project).

Now we just wait and see who was right.

[yaga]

Actually, I think it will be very interesting to observe what happens to both of these cities in 10-20 years. Houston has spurred their urban redev on sports arenas and events related to that. Dallas is betting its future on the arts and quality of life (Trinity Project).

Now we just wait and see who was right.

I would have to disagree. All across the nation there has been a sports facilities "renaissance" and most cities are building these facilities in urban areas. Houston has just been very agressive and succesful in attracting these events to the city. These events have enabled the city to showcase the revitalized downtown, urban developments and have helped change the negative images and perceptions of Houston.

I would also consider the light rail expansion, new downtown and midtown parks, mixed use and high rise development and pedestrian friendly buildings and shopping centers improvements in quality of life. The sporting events are just icing on the cake.

[hamiltonpl]

A healthy downtown would have a multitude of both sporting and cultural venues.

[gc]

But I wouldn't say that Dallas is "blowing Houston out of the water" when it comes to current/upcoming development projects.

Me either. When I visited H-town a few weeks back, I saw plenty of stuff under construction and I have read about several other things on HAIF. Houston is an awesome town IMO and has a ton of momentum to build on. They are certainly "showcasing" their downtown better than a lot of cities.

[Geaux Tigers]

How about we all just agree that Odessa sucks and gang up on those poor bastards?

[HarryMoto]

I think San Francisco is a prime example of a great city w/ a small population.

I'm surprised Ace didn't see red at this statement! :D

[drumguy8800]

So let's bring it back up so that he does :rolleyes:

[aceplace]

I'm surprised Ace didn't see red at this statement! :DSure, the SF Bay Area is pretty great... in its own way.

For my purposes, though, San Francisco is pretty lame as a provider of urban services and goods...

The fact that SF city has 750,000 people has nothing to do with the value of the Bay Area... the size of a particular municipality is irrelevant.

[rantanamo]

:(

bah humbug