Harwood District: The Azure (375 FT. / 31 ST.)

[JasonDallas]

Cement = 94pounds/Cubic foot x 3 =282 pounds of cement equals one cubic yard

282x1700= 479,400 pounds of cement poured for the Azure foundation.

There are not 3 cubic feet in a cubic yard, there are 27. So your number is off by a factor of 9. That would make 2538lbs/yard^3 and 4,314,600 lbs overall. Seems a little light for concrete but its probably correct to an order of magnitude.

Jason

[tamtagon]

Anyone know how many units of Azure have already been bought?

[FoUTASportscaster]

Good lord, that's a massive amount of concrete. I bet there is a lot of glass and steel that could equal those numbers in terms of weight, maybe not so in glass, but still a lot.

[AZDallasite]

I don't know what a yard of concrete costs in Dallas right now(probably $75) but in Phoenix right now it is $84. At $75, that one day of pouring the foundation, which is really insignificant compared to what will be poured over the entire project, would costs $127,500.

[X Factor]

There are not 3 cubic feet in a cubic yard, there are 27. So your number is off by a factor of 9. That would make 2538lbs/yard^3 and 4,314,600 lbs overall. Seems a little light for concrete but its probably correct to an order of magnitude.

Jason

Never have been good with numbers...

[barrycb]

It's supposed to be the tallest building in Uptown, but I guess the W is actually taller than Azure?

The W is about 65 feet taller than Azure, but the W sits at a 60 ft. lower grade. They should appear to be the about same height.

[FoUTASportscaster]

Both will still appear very tall, which will be good for the skyline view from every angle but the south.

[Tnekster]

^Agreed, W is a great sight when driving in on 35. It brings the city out, closer to the freeway. Looks cool.

[AZDallasite]

Does anyone have any shots from 35?

[DFW]

I have two pics but from the west side of Stemmons Frwy service rd. and although their not that great. I tried to get a shot from southbound Stemmons towards the skyline but the traffic was to bad.

[Tnekster]

^Shots are great! I don't know how to get a shot from 35 coming into downtown except from the car and that is hard to do.

[Lionel Hutz]

I got a nice, shiny brochure from Azure in the mail, along with a letter. Check out the way the letter starts. This is quite funny (and also sad):


Dear Dallas Bar Member:

As a member of the Dallas Bar Association, you no doubt lead a very successful life. We know your time is extremely valuable and your expectations are high. Therefore, we would like to introduce you to the lifestyle of AZURE, Dallas' newest luxury community within walking distance to The Crescent and Stanley Korshak.
Generalize much?

Gotta admit, the brochure is well done. If I was as successful as they think I am, I'd consider a 2 bedroom condo there.

[Tnekster]

^Are they having trouble selling them?

[St-T]

^Are they having trouble selling them?

No, they are selling well.

[Tnekster]

^OK, great.

[Boredkid]

They sure are taking their time building this thing.

[texman]

Is it normal to go that deep?

[tamtagon]

Is it normal to go that deep?

hum

[Boredkid]

Well they are selling their special garage thing, so assuming they need more space than usual.

[Boredkid]

Guess I should have explained the garage thing. They dont just have an underground parking garage. Each unit has its own enclosed garage in the parking garage. So I am assuming that is going to take up extra space. And sure they are going to have storage space for each unit too. Remeber there are alot of units going in there. Mean lots of parking is needed for residents and guests.

[Tnekster]

Guess I should have explained the garage thing. They dont just have an underground parking garage. Each unit has its own enclosed garage in the parking garage. So I am assuming that is going to take up extra space. And sure they are going to have storage space for each unit too. Remeber there are alot of units going in there. Mean lots of parking is needed for residents and guests.

I think they are also supposed to be able to acommodate a Hummer as well.

[Boredkid]

I never asked if an h2 could fit. But I am sure they designed it for large suvs. Who ever built the parking garage in my building forgot that not everyone drives a minicooper.

[St-T]

I would only buy if a H1 could fit.

[Tnekster]

Drove by this over the weekend, looks like lots of progress is being made but also think it will take them a long time to bring this thing out of the hole. They still look to be down three levels below ground.

[CTroyMathis]

Had down time at work today.
Watched a red truck drive down street and back into the site.
Then got back to work.
End of story.

( Via net feed: )

http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7647

[Boredkid]

Sounds like the highlight of your day?

[CTroyMathis]

Nah, not really. The highlight was certainly the reminder this morning at 5.00AM that this is only a three-day week and that I also have no classes to teach during the week. ; )

Tomorrow, I think I'll stare at more trucks at this site and maybe count DART busses at the bottom of the Ritz feed. . . Yes, that's it - countin' DART busses and watchin' Cap't Kangaroo.

[Lakewooder]

I hate to tell you but Capt. Kangaroo and Mr. Green Jeans have gone to that great ping pong palace in the sky...not sure about Mr. Moose and Bunny Rabbit...

[Boredkid]

I hate to tell you but Capt. Kangaroo and Mr. Green Jeans have gone to that great ping pong palace in the sky...not sure about Mr. Moose and Bunny Rabbit...


Never heard of the show before. Suppose its before my time. So googled it and this is what popped up. Not sure I even want to know what went on that show.

[St-T]

^It started the "homosexual agenda" movement! :eek:

[Lakewooder]

I thought that was Mr. Rogers and Bert and Ernie...

[warlock55]

^ Awful people :p

[Lionel Hutz]

I drove by the Azure the other day. You have to see the hole to appreciate how deep it is.

[Mephis Gooseberry]

Is there a reason why they are taking so long? Figured there would be upward progress by now.

[Tnekster]

There is upward progress, just not very much. Once they get the lowest floor and foundation in place it will probably move much faster.

[tamtagon]

I'm more excited about what Harwood International (http://www.harwoodinternational.com/) will do with the rest of its Uptown property than Victory Place and Citiplace West.

[I45Tex]

likewise, definitely

[rantanamo]

I don't share the optimism with Harwood. Lots of suburban type towers lined up.

[Tnekster]

I don't share the optimism with Harwood. Lots of suburban type towers lined up.

Azure is a suburban type tower?

[clipper]

I keep hearing sales are slow and they are purposely slow in construction.

[Tnekster]

I keep hearing sales are slow and they are purposely slow in construction.

Why would they keep construction slow? I would think that seeing the tower come out of the ground would be good for sales not bad. I also thought they sold 60% before they even broke ground, is that not true?

[AZDallasite]

The longer it takes to build, the more interim interest they will have to pay. I'm sure they want to complete this building as fast as possible. Another reason is what if the market dies. They don't want their current pending contracts falling through.

[Tnekster]

I still think the prices are a bit steep on this one.

[rantanamo]

Azure is a suburban type tower?

Yes. Most of what is going on outside of Victory and Cityplace West could be considered suburban, inlcuding the Ritz and the Ashton, though the Ashton disguises it much better than others.

[AZDallasite]

What defines a suburban type tower? Isn't that an oximoron? Suburban means lower density exactly the opposite of what a tower is. Just because you may see high-rises along the tollroad, etc doesn't make them "suburban type". Are you referring to architectural style? If so, styles are not limited to geographic areas.

[FoUTASportscaster]

Yeah, I agree. I get tired of hearing the elitist, snobbish, oh that's a suburban type tower. A tower is a tower, let go of the architectual style.

[msutton]

ditto

[Boredkid]

but if we agree its no fun.

[Tnekster]

Yes. Most of what is going on outside of Victory and Cityplace West could be considered suburban, inlcuding the Ritz and the Ashton, though the Ashton disguises it much better than others.

How is the Victory development non-suburban and Ritz and Azure suburban? And how does a tower disquise it's suburban nature?

[AZDallasite]

The only difference I can see is that Victory includes retail and entertainment whereas Azure and Ritz don't. This argument is stupid though. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SUBURBAN STYLE TOWER!