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smontgomery
20 September 2002, 11:13 AM
Mood is upbeat in Uptown
As economy dives, the area is enjoying a building boom

09/20/2002

By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News

For years, driving down McKinney Avenue in Dallas' Uptown neighborhood has been a slow crawl through blocks of construction.

Those construction trenches aren't going away, even though the economy's in a ditch.

"Everybody has acknowledged that it's a great area, and a lot of people want to play here," said property broker Newt Walker, who's worked in the area for almost 20 years. "Uptown has done a lot better in the current real estate market than some of the suburban areas, and developers want to capitalize on it."

If even half the projects currently in the planning stages get off the ground, Uptown will look dramatically different in the years ahead.

Most of the pending development is centered in two areas – near the new West Village retail and apartment center at Lemmon Avenue and around the Crescent office and hotel complex closer to downtown.

A Dallas firm working with one of the West Coast's biggest apartment builders – Legacy Partners – is negotiating to buy the former Red Cross building at McKinney and Pearl Street.

The potential owners are proposing more than 200 residential units on top of a 25,000-square-foot retail and restaurant complex, property brokers say.

A few blocks away, at Akard and Cedar Springs, developer JTS Interests of Baton Rouge, La., is buying a vacant block for more residential.

"We're working on plans for an eight-story building which we plan to start after the first of the year," said partner Thomas Wells. "We think it's where a lot of people want to live, and it is centrally located to all the amenities."

Outlook inviting


The perception that development locations are limited is prompting builders to take positions in Uptown even though the overall apartment market is about 8 percent vacant, said analyst Ron Witten of Witten Advisors.
"The market may be soft now, but if I think the economy is going to get better next year, I may start a project late this year, or in early 2003," Mr. Witten said. "A successful real estate investment is all about the future."

Brokers and developers say another factor in the building boom is the delay of the Victory retail and residential development near downtown.

Some builders held off potential projects in Uptown because they didn't want to compete directly with the $385 million Victory complex, Mr. Walker said. But with delays in funding approvals from the city of Dallas, the project was not started as early as expected.

Developers have now set the start date for Victory in summer 2003.

"The earliest we could start is next summer," said Ken Wong of Related Urban Development, formerly Palladium Group. "But I would not want to mislead you and say a groundbreaking is scheduled. I've got a lot of work to do."

The agreement between Victory developers and the city of Dallas stipulates that the project must be completed by the end of 2005.

Most of the projects on tap in Uptown will be finished long before then.

"A lot of people were scared by what Victory might have been able to do," Mr. Walker said. "But Uptown developers now believe they can go ahead and do their deals.

"It has opened the flood gates again, and those that have been sitting idle have revved up their engines," he said.

Two towers


Two apartment buildings being built near Lemmon and McKinney avenues will each have seven to nine stories. The residential towers are within sight of the West Village complex that opened this summer.
Developers in that area credit West Village with causing a building boomlet. "West Village has really brought in a lot of great tenants, and it has attracted more people to the area," said Barry Howard of Fairfield Residential, which is building the 232-unit mid-rise apartment complex on Lemmon Avenue east of McKinney. "West Village has moved the ground zero location for Uptown to Cityplace."

Fairfield Residential plans to finish its apartment building next summer, along with 10,000 square feet of retail space on the new trolley line running from McKinney to North Central.

"I've already had a number of retailers contact us about space," Mr. Howard said. "Everybody wants to get in on the act."

A block away on McKinney, Austin developer CWS Apartment Homes LLC is building the 144-unit Marquis on McKinney apartment building. It will be completed next year.

And on Blackburn Street between West Village and Turtle Creek, construction is under way on the Drexel Grand, a four-story, 28-unit loft apartment building.

More to come


Even bigger deals are still to come.
At the northeast corner of McKinney and Blackburn, Florida developer ZOM Inc. is buying land for a 20-story residential project.

"There has been a lot of energy down here in the Uptown area," said Kevin Wisdom, senior vice president of ZOM Texas. "It continues to be a very resilient market.

"The access to transportation and the DART light-rail line is also important."

West Village's developers aren't sitting still while their competitors take all the deals. Builders Henry S. Miller III and Robert Bagwell are wrapping up plans for the second phase of West Village on Blackburn Street. "We want to break ground on the building before the end of the year," Mr. Bagwell said. At Lemmon and Cole – the vacant corner once known as the "Hole on Cole" – a Denver apartment builder, Archstone Communities, is working on preliminary plans for a mid-rise apartment building.

And closer to downtown, on Cedar Springs Road across from the Crescent, Houston-based builder Hanover Co. has a property under contract and plans to build yet another mid-rise residential project. It will be on the site of the Dallas Children's Theater, which plans to relocate.

Near McKinney and Routh, Hotel ZaZa will open its doors next month with 146 rooms, meeting space and a restaurant.

Neal Sleeper of Cityplace Development said that even if Victory's project starts as planned next summer, there won't be much direct competition with the Uptown projects around West Village.

"Victory is a lot closer to downtown," he said. "If Victory gets built, it's two different markets, and both can survive successfully."

E-mail stevebrown@dallasnews.com



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GarrettCarey
20 September 2002, 01:25 PM
I think that is great news!
Uptown continues to deliver!

I can't wait to some of the renderings of the newest announcements.

KelleyUSA
24 September 2002, 09:34 AM
I think this is all excellent news for the Uptown area. However, in the article listed below it talks about Henry S. Miller starting on Phase 2 of the West Village- seems a bit odd when it appears they're having trouble still leasing up Phase 1... Also, I noticed that they are building an Apple store in the Knox-Henderson area. What a great addition to go along with all the home furnishings store and with the future Knox Park Village. When is Dart planning on putting a subway stop here?

JaeTex
24 September 2002, 07:04 PM
I remember reading a while back that original plan called for stop at KH but that locals opposed it because they didn't want the traffic, "wrong crowd", etc. that accompanies mass transit.
I think that the room was built in the tunnel for future station but that the neighbors won and so any plans to add a KH station now are at the end of the list.
I guess that's fair, and I'd definitely want tunnel access to Love Field before, but it seems a big missed opportunity.
Short-sighted thinking not by the agency, but the neigbors.

gc
03 January 2003, 11:20 AM
Uptown developers plan to build
Even though office demand is down

01/03/2003

By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News

Real estate developers are the original optimists.

But plans by builders to kick off another round of office construction in Dallas' Uptown neighborhood may turn out to be just wishful thinking.

While demand for office space in North Texas is at its lowest in more than a decade, developers are quietly working on plans for a half-dozen new office towers in the area just north of downtown.

Veteran office analysts are skeptical that the projects will get built. But one speculative building is already under way in the area near the Crescent and new marketing signs and leasing brochures are making the rounds for other sites in the area.

"A handful of developers are aggressively marketing proposed buildings that total up to 1.5 million square feet of high-class office space in one of Dallas' most popular submarkets, Uptown," said Greg Biggs, southwest regional vice president with office broker Julien J. Studley Inc. "Although these buildings are being heavily marketed, the likelihood of developers commencing construction without a lead tenant is remote.

"Nobody is going to build a speculative building without a lead tenant," Mr. Biggs said.

Maybe so, but the 2525 McKinnon office tower is being built at McKinnon and Wichita streets. It's one of the few speculative, multi-tenant office buildings under construction in Dallas.

Other office buildings are being marketed in the area by Crescent Real Estate Equities, CarrAmerica Realty, Harwood International and Trammell Crow Co.

Houston developer Hines – which just sold its huge Galleria complex in North Dallas – is also looking at the vacant Red Cross complex at McKinney Avenue and Pearl Street as a potential office development, brokers who work in the area say.

"It would be hard to imagine that all of these projects being talked about would be built," Mr. Biggs said. "But I think one or maybe even two are very possible."

Harwood International, which is developing the International Center office park on McKinnon, has two buildings designed and is courting tenants, said David Williams, the company's director of marketing.

Building modifications


The next building Harwood plans to construct is next to the historic St. Ann's School Building on Harry Hines Boulevard at Wichita. The high-rise office building will contain about 250,000 square feet.
"We have been in discussions with a number of tenants and have made some modifications to the building to accommodate their potential needs," Mr. Williams said. "We are hoping to make an announcement by the second quarter and get that one going."

Crescent Real Estate, which owns its namesake Crescent complex at Pearl and Cedar Springs Road, also has a 340,000-square-foot office high-rise designed for the vacant block at Pearl and McKinney.

But Crescent senior vice president John Zogg said the company – already Uptown's biggest landlord – won't start another building without tenants.

"I would be shocked if someone built something on a spec basis in this environment," Mr. Zogg said. "Along with everyone else, we are marketing our project, but we want signed leases before we start.

"There are several big tenants out in the market asking for proposals, and everyone is reacting to that," he said.

Among the tenants being wooed for new offices in Uptown are attorneys Baker Botts LLP and Strasburger & Price LLP, Neiman Marcus and Wells Fargo.

Down on downtown?


"There are several tenants that are considering [new buildings] outside the central business district," said Lawrence Gardner, associate director of Cushman & Wakefield of Texas. "If any of the tenants being talked about left, it would be a real black eye for downtown."
Mr. Gardner predicts that economics will keep major tenants downtown. Dallas' central business district has some of the cheapest office rents in the nation.

One reason Mr. Gardner and other longtime Dallas office brokers are skeptical about a building boom in Uptown is the potential cost to tenants.

"To get even a marginal return on a new building, you have to have rents in the high $20s or low $30s" per square foot, Mr. Zogg said. "The spread between those rates and in existing buildings downtown is tremendous."

Developers will argue that new buildings in Uptown will be cheaper to operate and more modern than older skyscrapers downtown.

"The thing everyone is going to be looking at is how efficient these new buildings are going to be," Mr. Biggs said.

Kelley USA
03 January 2003, 12:56 PM
If any of the potential developments get off the ground it will be good news. I wonder how many of the potential buildings- if any- will incorporate some type of retail space on the ground floor?

freewaytincan
03 January 2003, 04:13 PM
Okay, but what about truly affordable locations? For people just out of college, or with lower paying jobs? When I get out of college, I am no longer certain if I will be able to afford to live in an urban location! If there already is some, or at least some interest in this, great, but it takes more than one type of people to make things happen in a situation like this one.

bloodandpopcorn
03 January 2003, 07:53 PM
In a way, I would like these projects to happen... but in a way, i want them to wait a few years. Yes, more buildings in Uptown would be great. But what needs to happen before that is fill out downtown more, and fill out what Uptown currently has. Having lots of mostly vacant buildings doesn't make for a lively area...

Still, I hope at least one of hte proposals happens. I think that, at least to keep the appearance of a progressing urban area, we should always have at least one decently major development visably coming up in the downtown or uptown area. I wish that Crescent would go into rennovating old downtown towers into having more modern features instead of starting brand now and increasing "urban sprawl" which, in a strange sort of way, is what might happen.

FoUTASportscaster
24 February 2006, 08:14 PM
Does anyone else like to go back to the old threads and read real estate reports from Steve Brown?

gc
24 February 2006, 08:19 PM
All the time.....

barrycb
27 February 2006, 08:49 PM
If only they were successful...



A Dallas firm working with one of the West Coast's biggest apartment builders – Legacy Partners – is negotiating to buy the former Red Cross building at McKinney and Pearl Street.

The potential owners are proposing more than 200 residential units on top of a 25,000-square-foot retail and restaurant complex, property brokers say.

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The Great Hizzy!
28 February 2006, 12:29 PM
I kept scratching my head at the comment, "even though the economy is in the dumps" and then I realized the date of the original post.

kenc
08 July 2006, 10:49 PM
I kept scratching my head at the comment, "even though the economy is in the dumps" and then I realized the date of the original post.
I kinda agree. I'm new a just now looking at stuff, but how can we get old tired threads off?

FoUTASportscaster
09 July 2006, 02:58 PM
Don't post in them and then they go to the back.

maconahey
29 October 2006, 08:30 PM
Among the tenants being wooed for new offices in Uptown are attorneys Baker Botts LLP and Strasburger & Price LLP, Neiman Marcus and Wells Fargo.


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1488/bokapowellbakerandbottsunknown001tz5.gif

MarkL2023
29 October 2006, 10:36 PM
i like it, any more info?

BigD5349
30 October 2006, 12:51 AM
Thanks maconahey. I can't visualize where this is. Which lot is it on?

1999McKinneyAve
30 October 2006, 02:44 AM
LOL Thats the same lot where Shaefer's Uptown Plaza was built.....wishful thinking on our part....

freewaytincan
30 October 2006, 03:25 AM
LOL Thats the same lot where Shaefer's Uptown Plaza was built.....wishful thinking on our part....

He has officially ruined everything.

TheCDAllenGroup
30 October 2006, 11:33 AM
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txRNGr
30 October 2006, 03:59 PM
Shame

Tnekster
30 October 2006, 04:13 PM
I think there was some discussion in another thread that this tower may be intended for another site. I believe the site mentioned was the corner of Routh and McKinney where Trulocks is located.