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utgf
23 January 2004, 02:46 AM
New ZOM Rosewood in uptown (http://www.zomusa.com/custom/zom/prop_rosewood.html)
http://graphics.springstreet.com/custom/zom/images/rosewood.jpg
http://www.zomusa.com/images/development/proposed/rosewood.jpg
http://www.zomusa.com/images/development/proposed/rosewood2.jpg
ZOM Rosewood
Dallas, Texas
331 Units
ZOM Rosewood is a planned 331-unit luxury development nestled in the prestigious Uptown / Crescent area, near the Dallas Central Business District (CBD). The French Provincial inspired design elements will combine to create a unique and highly desirable in-town living address. ZOM Rosewood is envisioned to reshape the Uptown area with a distinctive residential landmark. The architecture is inspired by French influences with aspects of both urban Parisian design as well as French Provincial elements.
ZOM Rosewood will offer excellent access to the Dallas CBD, the entertainment areas of Uptown, as well as other employment, retail and nightlife centers north along the Dallas North Tollway. Also within walking distance is the Uptown historical district, offering artistic galleries and unique antique stores. Fashionable retail, restaurants and lively entertainment venues are prevalent along McKinney Avenue and the nearby Crescent Hotel as well. Planned as a four-story, wood-frame structure over a podium parking deck, the development nonetheless reads as three separate buildings. Across the street from the main building complex, a 14-unit Villas building will house higher-end flats with elevator access. Courtyards will be a central theme and ZOM Rosewood will offer three styles for resident enjoyment. Two main courtyards will be prominently featured and are joined by a carriageway that provides access to the lushly landscaped surroundings. One courtyard will contain an impressive pool enveloped by a grand staircase, while the second courtyard will be more traditional in nature and extensively landscaped. Smaller, more intimate courtyards will serve as unique green space and entry portals to other points within the development. The synergy of the architectural and floor plan design elements will create a unique and desirable residential address.
Ground Breaking: April 2004
CTroyMathis
23 January 2004, 03:09 AM
utgf, welcome to the forum!
And, you sure were all over this latest local ZOM project. :)
psukhu
23 January 2004, 09:46 AM
...nestled in the prestigious Uptown / Crescent area, near the Dallas Central Business District (CBD
They gave a vague location. I wonder where this will be exactly?
clipper
23 January 2004, 10:15 AM
North of the Hanover tower.
gc
23 January 2004, 12:14 PM
Where exactly...i am drawing a blank.
Columbus Civil
23 January 2004, 12:19 PM
I didn't think there was any room between Ashton Place and the office complex at Cedar Springs and Maple....unless it will be built on that street right across from Internation Plaza..is it McKinley? There's plenty of empty land there.
Columbus Civil
23 January 2004, 12:22 PM
Sorry, McKinnon.
jsoto3
23 January 2004, 03:47 PM
RTKL is the architect of this project (not our typical design aesthetic) and it is indeed on the east side of McKinnon, just north of the Prado and west of Thomas Repro. I really don't care for the style, but architects give clients what they want. It is a very nicely planned residential project; it will have nice courtyards and private terraces shared by a few units, parking is on one level partially beneath grade. It should do very well. I especially like that the residential component of Uptown is spreading westward, mixing the uses.
Columbus Civil
23 January 2004, 03:53 PM
There seems to be a lot of that French Provincial style around Uptown..and not just the Crescent. Hopefully some bolder designs will start popping up soon in the area.
jsoto3
23 January 2004, 03:56 PM
SITE
aceplace
23 January 2004, 03:58 PM
Just as a question,
What is the difference between French and French Provincial?
Columbus Civil
23 January 2004, 04:08 PM
I don't know. I guess I consider French Provincial to have similar architectural feature like a chateau you'd find in the French countryside, like the Crescent. A lot of building in that area have a similar roof style. *shrug*
aceplace
23 January 2004, 05:39 PM
Reason I asked...
I see that same sort of Beaux Arts architecture in photos of buildings in Paris... lots of late-19th century curliques, mansard roofs, ornamented windows.
It's interesting about our city, that different parts of it are styled after different parts of Europe.
The Crescent Court and westward looks Parisian, much of the Upper McKinney Ave area looks Mediterranean... the Addison Circle area in Addison looks British or Northern European...
CTroyMathis
23 January 2004, 05:46 PM
French Provincial also leans towards the square and symmetrical.
aceplace
27 January 2004, 08:49 AM
Here's a quote from today's DMN article on the development...
ZOM’s brick and stucco buildings — which will also face McKinnon Street near the entrance to the Dallas North Tollway — will give a nod to the Crescent with what the developer calls French Provincial architecture.
The "French Provincial" label is the first reference in the article.
Later in the article, we have
Architect Tom Brink, a vice president with RTKL, said the plan was to design a building that complemented the Crescent. “We were really looking at urban Parisian townhouses as the model,” Mr. Brink said.
I don't think that people in Paris think of themselves as "provincial". Apparently there's a difference of opinion between the builder and the architect as to the building's style.
tamtagon
27 January 2004, 12:09 PM
It's probably like descriing an elephant - you got your Asian and you got your Africian. A biologist should know the difference, but a fry cook may not.
From the initial thread entry:
The architecture is inspired by French influences with aspects of both urban Parisian design as well as French Provincial elements.
Maybe the DMN interviewed the individual architect incorporating the Parisian design aspects and interviewed a developer team member with Provincial France on his/her mind.
Either way, it seems that the complex will be another addition to the neighbor's very affluent texture. The more residents with millions of dollars in disposable cash circulating in the neighborhood, the better.
lwaley
28 January 2004, 05:10 PM
Nice observation.
bloodandpopcorn
30 April 2004, 04:28 PM
So, shouldn't they have already broken ground on this?
hamiltonpl
30 July 2004, 11:15 AM
What happened to this project?
barrycb
30 July 2004, 01:33 PM
What happened to this project?
It's still on. The city is doing infrastructure work now which will be completed by December, according to a sign on the site. Construction should begin soon after.
rantanamo
30 July 2004, 01:43 PM
Keep filling in the GP course. I want eye candy when those cameras are rolling.
tamtagon
30 July 2004, 02:06 PM
Keep filling in the GP course. I want eye candy when those cameras are rolling.
doip?!?! what's the GP course??
rantanamo
30 July 2004, 02:46 PM
My Dallas Grand Prix course that I'm trying going to try to sell to those with the power to make it happen. I'd like a CART/ALMS weekend or even the IRL once they start road racing. I believe the street layout of western LoMac/Victory can provide the greatest street racing course in the world. The streets are plenty wide, and the intersections are much larger than your average street course. They would provide great passing zones with generous runoff. I'd like to see a large party similar to Long Beach or Surfer's Paradise complete with people watching from their balconies. I think we have the atmosphere Uptown to provide this in addition to the perfect course. Would also like to stick it to Eddie Gossage for his treatment of open wheel and sports car racing. This is only my temporary vision, as I see a permanent road course in a location I'll talk about later. I'd like to see F-1, MotoGP, CART, IRL, ALMS, and the hundreds of minor league road racing series there.
tamtagon
30 July 2004, 03:01 PM
My Dallas Grand Prix course that I'm trying going to try to sell to those with the power to make it happen. I'd like a CART/ALMS weekend or even the IRL once they start road racing. I believe the street layout of western LoMac/Victory can provide the greatest street racing course in the world. The streets are plenty wide, and the intersections are much larger than your average street course. They would provide great passing zones with generous runoff. I'd like to see a large party similar to Long Beach or Surfer's Paradise complete with people watching from their balconies. I think we have the atmosphere Uptown to provide this in addition to the perfect course. Would also like to stick it to Eddie Gossage for his treatment of open wheel and sports car racing. This is only my temporary vision, as I see a permanent road course in a location I'll talk about later. I'd like to see F-1, MotoGP, CART, IRL, ALMS, and the hundreds of minor league road racing series there.
Ya, I dont know nothin' about CART/ALMS, but really like your idea!
hamiltonpl
30 July 2004, 04:07 PM
Thanks for the update.
gc
19 August 2004, 01:24 PM
Drove by the site last night on my way to dinner. The infrastructure work is well underway and there is a lot going on over there. Looks like they have dug pretty deep.
drumguy8800
19 August 2004, 06:48 PM
oh, wow.. they're actually working on it. i figured this had fallen off the .. building.. agenda.. thing. thanks, gc.
barrycb
29 August 2004, 07:26 PM
jsoto3,
It looks as though the parking garage and flats will be east of Bookout street, and the building will cross over Bookout to the rest of the development. Am I looking at the design correctly?
jsoto3
29 August 2004, 11:17 PM
There are 4 buildings. There is parking below all of them (the 3 west of Bookhout sit atop a single garage).
rantanamo
03 September 2004, 03:24 PM
Has anyone noticed the name change and new rendering:
ZOM Uptown I
http://www.zomusa.com/custom/zom/images/uptown.jpg
Kelley USA
03 September 2004, 03:30 PM
Dude- that's awesome! I like it much better than the original...
rantanamo
03 September 2004, 03:36 PM
ZOM Holland website. They also have Modrian I agree, it looks great. Wish they had a bigger rendering.
barrycb
03 September 2004, 03:51 PM
I think the name is still the same...Uptown I is probably the name of the legal entity that owns it. But I do like that rendering much better. Jsoto3, what's the story here?
drumguy8800
03 September 2004, 05:00 PM
I actually liked the design of the old one. the old one looked more prado-ish.. this one looks a little more gothic, with cues from.. what, new england? eh, it'll look good :D.
Tverb
03 September 2004, 05:27 PM
Just a difference of the artist, design and plans are unchanged. You are correct, ZOM Uptown I is the Limited partnership name. Project will NOT be named "Rosewood" and that name will no longer be associated with the project.
drumguy8800
03 September 2004, 05:37 PM
do you work for Zom?
dallastophoenix
03 September 2004, 06:32 PM
i like the east coast look of the new rendering (very colonial from what i can see from the small pic).
bloodandpopcorn
03 September 2004, 09:00 PM
Yeah, I really like the new rendering.
jsoto3
06 September 2004, 11:39 PM
Tverb said it. Same design, just a more refined rendering of the refined design by a different artist (John Yancey, who does almost all of our great renderings).
gc
01 December 2004, 04:27 PM
^ Can anyone give some updates or provide some pictures of the progress here? Thanks.
crescentboi
01 December 2004, 05:31 PM
Well I drove by this morning and there's a lot going on, they have a lane closed and that road between Rosewood and Azure torn up. I think they are now almost to the first level.
CTroyMathis
01 December 2004, 05:49 PM
Thanks for the update.
chall
02 December 2004, 12:31 AM
I'm meeting with Zom next week so I'll share any new information I can gather. From what I've learned to date in discussions with Zom 'corporate', as well as The Mondrian associates, it will be a very attractive addition to the Uptown neighborhood.
St-T
02 December 2004, 09:25 AM
Will all of the units be rental or will some be for sale? I heard that they are considering converting some of the Mondrian into condos... any news on either???
crescentboi
02 January 2005, 05:35 PM
Here's a pic I took on New Years Eve.
tamtagon
02 January 2005, 07:00 PM
This is going to be a sweet part of town, for any city.
texman
02 January 2005, 10:07 PM
Sucks for those gigantic trees though. I wish there were some way to uproot and move them.
crescentboi
02 January 2005, 11:12 PM
The only thing that i'm worried about with this neighborhood is that none of these developments are providing space for streetlevel retail. Which means residents will have to drive to a grocery store rather than walk. Sure the buildings are going to look great and the mini skyline of that area is going to be great, but it's going to be all for vehicles. I wish that one of these new developments there would have space for a market or such on the ground floor along with maybe a walgreens, cvs or such.
tamtagon
03 January 2005, 01:47 AM
How are these going to be priced? I'm guessing the demographic moving here will be more likely to walk to an area restaurant rather than use alot of groceries making dinner and just as likely to have staples delivered. With all the retail along McKinney, planned at Victory and West Village, how much more retail would be sustainable? A project like this substitutes the 2 minute walk to the downstairs grocery/drug store/convenience store for a garden landscaping, and helps concentrate foot traffic in the existing retail areas, and promises enhanced buffer foliage. The curb appeal and psychological impact of a stretch of home-oriented sidewalks could become a very pleasant walk in the transition from busy McKinney Ave to (hopefully prettier) Reverchon Park. I'm not going to worry about the lack of street level retail unless several ajoining blocks become residential only, which may not be possible in that area????
chall
03 January 2005, 01:58 AM
I'm sure they'll be comparable with neighboring upscale rentals coming into the area, around the $2/psf range. Surprisingly, the Mondrian has set their construction rates well below this median, but imo Zom will probably come in w/ higher rents for this project, particularly if The Ashton, their main competetion, has a strong lease up with their projected rents.
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