Dallas Skyline (Dense)

[dallascourier]

Hi Guys!!

New to posting here. Been a reader for awhile though. Great forum!

I was fishing around on here today and came across those really neat picks of downtown looking east. Those pics really captured the denseness. I've talked to people who say that our skyline doesn't have that dense feel to it. i personally think it all depends on what angle you look at the skyline. I am a courier so i spend the majority of my time in and around downtown Dallas. I've noticed lately that its getting pretty dense down there. With the rising of uptown it really fills the skyline up. I just hope it gets bigger. I want more office down there so I can spend more time on my bike doing runs verses driving my car..

Just yesterday I was driving into downtown from 35 and was kinda struck by how much its filling in. With more and more people moving down there. How much more do you guys think its going to grow?

I think after they complete t hat park above Woodall Rogers that will make downtown look AWESOME!

One huge problem I see with downtown is the homeless people. They need to create a no panhandling zone around uptown and downtown. Or at least go talk to the city of Fort Worth. I've never been asked for money or been bugged by a homeless person in Downtown Fort Worth. I think the City of Portland has a no homeless person zone around their downtown.....

Anyway. Glad to be a part of the forum...Thanks for reading!!

[berryhill]

Welcome to the forum. The drive towards downtown on southbound 35 is definitely really cool. If only there was an overlook over there. The southern end of Uptown really is getting dense and the mix of buildings and plentiful green space really impresses me. The developers in that area (excluding Hillwood, of course) really did a great job. It's just too bad the height restrictions don't allow for much variance.

[dallascourier]

so there is a height restriction? I was wondering about that. Assuming thats for Love Field? Does that include all of Downtown and uptown or just uptown? There is probably no way around the height restriction. They can't build further west can they? Considering all that soggy marsh like soil by the river. What is the height restriction? How many feet?

[I45Tex]

I don't think the height restriction is low enough to matter. Gabriel Barbier-Mueller has proposed some significantly taller towers for future phases of Harwood's build-out, Victory has had three or more versions of a 200-meter complex posted publically, and I think I recall a slinky highrise vision of more than forty storeys involving the driving range near Mondrian and Cityplace West; it's all that the rewards of building in such larger chunks have yet to justify the larger risks. However, by the time that real estate pressure in Dallas' core could rise *that* high, downtown itself would have become attractive enough to absorb so much of the square footage that it will stay unlikely we'll see Uptown sprout. The concentration of demand uptown this decade is, to begin with, less because of location than because downtown-proper wasn't properly ritzifiable enough yet.

Downtown Houston and the Texas Medical Center are two of the largest skylines on the continent and they're both on riverside mush - so since the Prudential Building, the Exxon Building, and One Shell Plaza in the '50s, '60s, and '70s, towers have been able to be built in marsh to thirty, to forty, and to fifty storeys - as long as the grounds aren't prone to flooding. But again the risk has to be justified: it remains to be seen whether the Trinity can be the sort of thing that thousands prefer over every other possible front yard.

edit: Take us some shots from the right angle from the East if you can! The view from the heights across the Trinity is good too: http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=15553 edit: oh, you said looking east. But is there an equivalent reversed view of the merged skylines from 180 degrees, from south of Lake Highlands?

[JohnMcKee]

It's rare when it happens because normally I exit 35 at Oak Lawn because of traffic but if I'm out in Las Colinas on a nice saturday for whatever reason I adore the drive into the city on 35 on a nice day, top down on the car, taking the Woodall Rogers ramp from 35, exiting Pearl, and taking McKinney Ave home.

I've loved the Dallas skyline for longer than even I really remember, my mom was over at my house last night and she was telling her boyfriend out on my balcony that she remembers even as a little kid telling my grandmother that I wanted a photo of the Dallas skyline for my birthday, telling her that one day I was going to live in a highrise in downtown Dallas and how happy she was that on my childhood dreams is true. I am too, when my real estate agent showed me the condo I bought it just took one view of the skyline to sell me, now I have this outside my windows every day and I can't imagine wanting anything different.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/johnmckee/IMG_9251.jpg

[TexasStar]

^ Showoff! :D

[dallascourier]

It's rare when it happens because normally I exit 35 at Oak Lawn because of traffic but if I'm out in Las Colinas on a nice saturday for whatever reason I adore the drive into the city on 35 on a nice day, top down on the car, taking the Woodall Rogers ramp from 35, exiting Pearl, and taking McKinney Ave home.

I've loved the Dallas skyline for longer than even I really remember, my mom was over at my house last night and she was telling her boyfriend out on my balcony that she remembers even as a little kid telling my grandmother that I wanted a photo of the Dallas skyline for my birthday, telling her that one day I was going to live in a highrise in downtown Dallas and how happy she was that on my childhood dreams is true. I am too, when my real estate agent showed me the condo I bought it just took one view of the skyline to sell me, now I have this outside my windows every day and I can't imagine wanting anything different.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/johnmckee/IMG_9251.jpg

You know what? If I stand on my house i can see downtown Fort Worth!! So :p :D lol I am in North Richland Hills though :(

That is a sweet view!!!

Super tall buildings isn't really needed to make the area look dense. Look at San Fransisco. They got a really cool downtown and no super tall structures. One big issue i see in downtown is its not land locked by water or anything. If you look at dense downtowns. Seattle, San Fran, NYC, Chicago and Miami. They are all locked in by water. They have really no choice but to build up. Look at Phoenix. The size of Dallas and they have really no significant downtown. They got all the land in the world to build out instead of up.

You got cities like Los Angeles. Too me their skyline looks smaller then Dallas. Not tall but dense wise.

I think Dallas could really have a rock'n downtown if they create that atmosphere where its safe. Like i said in that last post. Downtown Dallas is a different place at night. If they want to create that environment they need to fix that homeless problem and get panhandlers out of the area....

[dallascourier]

Anybody know anything about this Museum Tower? Is it going to happen? I just found out about it about 5 minutes ago lol.....

[NThomas]

Anybody know anything about this Museum Tower? Is it going to happen? I just found out about it about 5 minutes ago lol.....
Here's the Museum Tower thread. (http://forum.dallasmetropolis.com/showthread.php?t=6955)

[MDE]

now I have this outside my windows

Great view. And it doesn't look like you have to worry about anything popping up that might obstruct it.

[R1070]

That photo is a great example of how a good mix of highrise and midrise buildings can create a very cool looking city!