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jammin
31 October 2003, 07:57 AM
What could have been..and what will be. That building in the pic is beautiful. I wish it would have been built.

Link (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/business/stories/103103dnbusartsdistrict.5cb6a.html)

gc
31 October 2003, 09:15 AM
hmmmmm would have been nice

TexasStar
31 October 2003, 10:23 AM
If all those towers had been built, Dallas' skyline would really rival Houston's.

jsoto3
31 October 2003, 11:35 AM
No one is remarking on architect Graham Greene's plans for an 8 storey condo/retail project caddy-corner to the Nasher?! I had never heard about this, but I am quite intrigued. I truly believe that the future of urban development lies in the hands of entrepreneurial architects who take development into their own hands. There hasn't been much of it here in Dallas, but it is a growing trend across the country. I certainly plan to get into it myself someday. I guess John Portman was the first architect/developer, highly active in the 70's in Atlanta and elsewhere. Another architecture firm of note working now in such a mode is Sienna Architecture (http://www.siennaarchitecture.com/intro.htm) in Portland. Anyway, I think the urban void between Pearl, 45, Woodall, and Elm is prime for mixed use midrise residential development, that is if the city doesn't demolish 40-something acres to create a 'gateway park' there.

Columbus Civil
31 October 2003, 11:41 AM
I hope Laura Miller sent her napkin to Graham Greene.

aceplace
31 October 2003, 01:00 PM
Jsoto, do you have a link to Graham Greene's project?

jsoto3
31 October 2003, 04:47 PM
sorry, I don't. I only now heard about it in this article.

bloodandpopcorn
31 October 2003, 06:56 PM
YES! That was great news indeed!! I think a really well done, beautiful 8-10 story residential building with a coffe shop, music store (equal parts sheet music and cds), book store (with a good selection of plays/screenplays), and dvd/video (with an emphasis on older, smaller, and foreign works) store on the bottom would complete the current Arts District. Not to mention how wonderful it would be once the performing arts center is done!

214
01 November 2003, 11:30 AM
8 stories is not tall enough

CTroyMathis
01 November 2003, 11:56 AM
Can someone post the image(s)? For whatever reason, I can't get into the DMN and a few other sites since my return 2 nights ago. Very irritating.

Sincerely,
CtrlAltDel

jammin
01 November 2003, 12:30 PM
Here you go Troy. Welcome back!!!

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/business/stories/L_IMAGE.f88d5cfcee.93.88.fa.80.36b1026.jpg
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/business/stories/L_IMAGE.f88d5cfcee.93.88.fa.80.369be78.jpg

gc
01 November 2003, 12:32 PM
that is damn fine building....excuse me...would have been

tamtagon
01 November 2003, 04:04 PM
Whatever enterprise ends up on that land will have a unique opportunity to benefit from the traffic generated by the arts district, as we all know. Simply because location, the scope and function of this private development will have the probably the greatest impact on the nature of the arts district - a huge responsibility. This land is the transition block between the museums and performing arts venues. I hope the developer has a long-range philanthropic disposition and plans to ensure the arts district, city and region will benefit as well as the bottom line of the owner(s). This is one instance I would be in favor of a heavy handed involvement by the city - just to be safe....

tamtagon
03 November 2003, 12:23 AM
maybe this where Ritz Carolton will build, that might work

aceplace
03 November 2003, 11:20 AM
Tamtagon, that seems like a very possible scenario. A hotel in a good location is more competitive than one in poor location, and the interior of Dallas' Arts District seems like a perfect locale for a high end hotel.

Certainly better than on the side of a freeway...

evdallas
03 November 2003, 12:49 PM
I can't believe a developer thinks that the Arts district can't support residential, its so close to uptown. If I had some money and that land :(

JaeTex
03 November 2003, 06:36 PM
"Whatever enterprise ends up on that land will have a unique opportunity to benefit from the traffic generated by the arts district,"

Whatever goes there also has unique opportunity to block the arts district from becoming a true and viable Arts District and a pedestrian friendly zone. A nice hotel would be alright, and (in my opinion) a giant tower would not be good for the District. The only reason Trammel Crow tower is good for the district is the Crow museum and the sculptures. If the area is or is to be an arts district then even really nice looking towers (barring a public arts purpose at street level) don't belong. The Arts district needs critical mass and a tower while increasing the person density (or whatever the better term is) would decrease the arts density.

My dream is all arts along woodall between DMA and the new CPA, deck woodall with parks and have midrise residential/condo living on the other side of woodall parks (tearing down the one-level drive thru banks in the process). But that's just me.

aceplace
03 November 2003, 06:51 PM
JaeTex,

If the current parking lot shouldn't get a high rise hotel, or a high rise residential building, what are the alternatives? Does it remain a vacant lot for another 20 years?

There probably would not be any money to build another public building in that location. The fund raisers will have already bled everyone dry after CPA and the Gehry building are paid for...