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gc
16 September 2003, 12:48 AM
City's pothole repair system on a bumpy road, audit says
Dallas responds to calls, but process drains time, lacks proper resources
Monday, September 15, 2003
By TERRI LANGFORD / The Dallas Morning News
http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/091603dnmetpotholes.4dc67.html

You see a pothole in Dallas.

You report it to the city.

A city worker notes the location of the pothole and then contacts someone else to go look at the pothole. That worker may or may not determine whether asphalt or concrete is needed. That worker may or may not call a crew supervisor, who takes another look at – that's right – the pothole.

Welcome to the Byzantine world of pothole repairs in Dallas, where a lot of assessment occurs before crews are dispatched. And that is only part of the problem in getting repairs efficiently done, according to a city performance audit.

Each year, Dallas officials budget more than $3 million for labor and materials for street repairs, which includes filling more than 18,200 potholes during the current fiscal year. There are 307 people assigned to repair the city's roads.

The review of pothole repairing found that as many as four trips can be made to the pothole; it also found an inadequate record-keeping system and ill-equipped workers who sometimes use their shoes instead of measuring tape to mark off the dimensions of the holes.

Overall, auditors found the Dallas Street Services Department to be "diligent and responsive in repairing potholes."

But the system used to identify the potholes, get workers to the site and verify the work once it was completed was found to be lacking and time-consuming. Street service officials said they are working on improvements.

Once a pothole is properly vetted by one and sometimes two other workers, a repair crew is called. But first crews have to pick up asphalt, up to a 20-mile trip that takes away from filling holes, auditors said.

"The daily loading of pothole patch trucks takes crews away from their primary responsibility, which is filling potholes," auditors reported. "If trips to the asphalt plant were limited to two per week, crews could repair streets for an additional three hours per week."

Inadequate tools


Then there's the problem of finding a patch truck that's not sidelined for repairs. Auditors found that the city street crews relied too often on dump trucks because the city's aging fleet of 15 patch trucks was either out of commission or in for repairs.
"In one district," auditors wrote, "two pothole patch trucks were not in service due to breakdowns and/or other maintenance needs."

Dump trucks do not come with the tools necessary to effectively repair a pothole, such as jackhammers and a heating element that keeps patching mix hot.

In one instance, auditors observed that a street repaired with tools found on a dump truck merely covered up a problem.

"As a result, within minutes after completing this job we noted that depressions could be made in the newly repaired area," the audit team noted.

Data inconsistencies


Auditors also noted that inconsistent data collection by work crews contributed to record-keeping problems.
"Crewmembers' shoes were the most consistently used instruments for computing work effort within all four maintenance districts," the audit team reported. "Measurements taken in this manner are probably inaccurate."

The city appeared to be its own worst enemy when it came to alley potholes.

"The city's sanitation trucks cause the majority of alley problems," auditors wrote.

Most Dallas alleys are 8 feet wide – the same width as a sanitation truck. Because alleys and trucks are about the same size, the vehicles' weight cannot be equally distributed on the alley pavement, causing cracks and dents.

Mayor Laura Miller, known for her dedication to improving basic city services, could not be reached for comment on the audit.

Jim Wood, director of the Dallas Street Services Department, conceded that the procedures may not be as streamlined as the city wants, but the way repairs – street or otherwise – are called in and assessed has been part of a complicated service-request management system that is being overhauled.

"It was not designed to be a work order system," Mr. Wood said. "Our management information system has not been sufficient to give reports. We've taken some steps to improve the old system. We moved the data to a server so we can have better access to it."

He said that should help with quicker responses to pothole repairs.

"It's always good to have someone from the outside to take a look," Mr. Wood said of the audit.

E-mail tlangford@dallasnews.com

Here is what the audit found:

A Dallas city audit of street pothole repairs found these problems:

• Too much time spent by repair crews on trips to get asphalt and not enough time repairing potholes.

• No consistent standard to determine a pothole's size or threat to the street and motorists.

• Pothole repairers often use their shoes – not measuring tape – to determine the size of holes, resulting in inconsistent statistics about the size of potholes repaired.

• Mazelike bureaucracy that can requires two different people to see a pothole before it is repaired.

• Most alley potholes are created by city sanitation trucks, not motorists.

• Aging pothole patch truck inventory. Half of the 15 trucks used to repair potholes are more than 6 years old, and several are beyond repair.

gc
24 May 2004, 07:50 PM
from the frontburner....

PARDON US IF WE MISS THIS ONE
Clearly the city of Dallas is starved for some positive attention. Here's today's press release:


Dallas Mayor Laura Miller and the Dallas City Council will “fill” the first pothole funded by the City’s 2003 Bond Program in the 3700 block of Ross Avenue, in front of the DISD Administration Building. This action will officially begin the resurfacing of 500 lane-miles of roadway located throughout the city at a total cost of $60 million. Mayor Miller and the City Council will be joined by the Dallas Independent School District Board and DISD Superintendent Mike Moses. Immediately following the press conference, the city’s contractor will begin to resurface Ross Avenue between Crocket and Haskell streets.


In a city that boasts so many plastic surgeons, it only seems appropriate we would want to celebrate a makeover for the metropolis.

Reid Slaughter ท 07:45 PM

drumguy8800
24 May 2004, 08:19 PM
they're also redoing Industrial today. And I think they're redoing it with asphalt :(. I hate asphalt. Boo on asphalt.

Foucault
25 May 2004, 12:09 AM
What else would they use...?
Asphalt surfaces 96% of all paved roads in the US.

drumguy8800
25 May 2004, 01:55 AM
What else would they use...?
Asphalt surfaces 96% of all paved roads in the US.

I still don't like it.. Most major city roads are concrete.. like thoroughfares, etc.. and new stuff is always concrete. Asphalt is what's used for NYC streets and.. highways.. and other stuff like that. Sure, Elm and Main are asphalt.. i dunno. concrete looks nicer. Central's not even asphalt.

Quiz03
25 May 2004, 10:43 AM
Just putting a new layer of asphalt on a road (concrete, or asphalt) is a whole lot cheaper and faster than digging up a road and laying new concrete.

trolleygirl
25 May 2004, 01:23 PM
What do you think other Cities are thinking and saying about Dallas when we have a Press gig for the Mayor and City Council and DISD Supeintendent and School Board to go out and "fill" the first pothole from the latest bond package?

We should also have a big signature parade for all the years we spent deferring maintenence on our streets, I mean since we are broadcasting ourselves as examples for all the rest of the country to see and use as "how not to run a City".....................

This is ridiculous waste of our elected- and paid- official's time and our money.

tamtagon
25 May 2004, 01:31 PM
It is pretty ridiculous celebration: "We're finally doing what we're supposed to do!"
What's even more ridiculous is the way voters are placated to accept shabby roads leading to a publicity stunt.

crescentboi
03 August 2004, 10:33 PM
Has anyone noticed that they have fixed a few of the streets downtown...the two I've noticed are Pearl and Griffin. It's nice to see that something's getting done.

Mballar
03 August 2004, 11:22 PM
Yeah. . . and Ross Avenue, between 75 and where it runs into Greenville, is getting a much needed resurfacing too.

crescentboi
10 August 2004, 04:09 PM
I just noticed yesterday that the city had stripped the tar off of a section of Main St at Dealey Plaza and underneath is beautiful brick. Why doesn't the city repair a few sections of the brick instead of paving it over with the ugly tar that will need to be redone in another 10yrs? I think Dealey Plaza section streets in brick would be a beautiful entrance into downtown. Does anyone know if it is even possible to salvage the brick or not?

Columbus Civil
10 August 2004, 04:14 PM
Cover up at Dealey Plaza? Say it ain't so!

bloodandpopcorn
10 August 2004, 04:33 PM
Brick at Dealey Plaza would be beautiful! Who do we write to?

gc
10 August 2004, 04:37 PM
I'd say the council, but it may be too late.

The Great Hizzy!
11 August 2004, 10:30 AM
Even for a limited stretch, brick streetscapes can be fairly expensive (certainly more expensive than tar), so if the city's not considering it, you will, as usual, have to hold them by the hand and show them a responsible means for finding "additional" funding for it.

trolleygirl
11 August 2004, 12:05 PM
A few years ago the city decided to re-brick McKinney Aveue. Like most of the city's streets, the brick surfaces- and the streetcar lines- were paved over with asphalt. It was cheaper than tearing it all out. You can still see exposed streetcar track and the brick bedding underneath in many parts of Dallas. On McKinney Ave., back in the early '80's, some business owners got together and convinces the city to install some antique streetlights and peel off the asphalt to expose the brink, to give the-then "Vineyard Association" a more quaint, hometown sort of feel. It was at that point that the streetcar tracks were seen by one MATA's co-founders and the idea of a streetcar on McKinney Avenue was born.

But even in the 20 years that those bricks were in use, followed by a 30 year period of being covered by asphalt, they started to show signs of wear. Add to that, the infrastructure maintenence and the new cable and communications and fiber-optic lines underground, and every time someone did a street cut, they repaired it was a shovel of asphalt. So there were bricks and asphalt and DART buses all over that street, and DART has their OWN idea of what street rapiar should look like. Add the streetcars and some of the brick was beyond being replaced. In fact, most of it was.

Bu the city did re-brick with a newer brick. Sadly, it hasn't lasted. A lot of it is falling and sliding and there's a spot at Pearl street and another at Maple where there's this huge dip and four-inch gaps between the brick. I think brck is nice to look at on a less traffic street, but on heavy traffic streets, it's just not going to hold up. Also, you'll notice on McKinney Ave., the track sides of the street- the inner lane- is concrete. Should tell you something there.

Interesting thing though, those old bricks weigh 12 lbs each. The new ones weigh eight. The old ones were placed in the streets, with their sides facing up, not the face side. The new bricks were laid in the streets with their faces facing up. So the integrity won't last as long as the old ones- the old ones were bigger and could withstand more impact.

drumguy8800
11 August 2004, 04:51 PM
Or we could just put brick everywhere downtown.. ๔.๔.. especially on Ross.. that road sucks :D!`

texman
11 August 2004, 07:06 PM
I've noticed Ft. Worth has ALOT of downtown brick streets.

US75Guy
24 November 2004, 11:46 AM
Streets in the most immediate need of repair:

Haskell from Lemmon down to Live Oak (every corner has these HUGE dips)
Westmoreland from the Trinity River to Ft. Worth Ave. (this may be repaired by now, it was like a cattle trail)

Any other candidates?

VK1
24 November 2004, 11:47 AM
I say all of downtown needs repair.

freewaytincan
24 November 2004, 02:06 PM
I say all of downtown needs repair.

Werd!

psukhu
24 November 2004, 07:30 PM
I did notice something a few years back when I went to Italy. Most of the streets in the city of Rome (at least within the original Roman area inside the walls) seem to be a brick that looks like it is made out of asphalt. Their streets are much busier than McKinney Avenue. The surface was very attractive and looked really old. It blended in with the incredible architecture of the city, yet it seemed durable enough to handle heavy traffic, including big trucks and buses.


I don't think Dallas will spend the extra money considering there are so many roads that are barely drivable.

LDSR
29 November 2004, 03:26 AM
Or we could just put brick everywhere downtown.. ๔.๔.. especially on Ross.. that road sucks :D!`
Hasn't Ross mostly been repaved in the past few months? I seem to recall the drive from Greenville to Downtown being pretty smooth now.

drumguy8800
29 November 2004, 10:12 AM
Hasn't Ross mostly been repaved in the past few months? I seem to recall the drive from Greenville to Downtown being pretty smooth now.

Yes, in September, I believe.

freewaytincan
29 November 2004, 02:49 PM
But repaved how, and with what? Asphalt?

trolleygirl
29 November 2004, 03:02 PM
But repaved how, and with what? Asphalt?

Yeah brand new pretty black tar............and it will be potholed again in a year.

freewaytincan
29 November 2004, 03:26 PM
Yeah brand new pretty black tar............and it will be potholed again in a year.

I should have known better than to ask.

The Great Hizzy!
01 December 2004, 01:08 PM
Seems like potholes are a far bigger problem here in Texas than it is in Florida, no matter if it's South Florida (where I'm from) or North Florida, which has about the same type climate that southern Texas has. Is it a matter of maintenance efforts? Money? Materials?