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GarrettCarey
06-07-2002, 02:31 PM
I think this is more good news for Dallas. Any thoughts?
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Apartments, other projects in works for Maple Avenue
'Ripe for redevelopment'

06/07/2002

By STEVE BROWN / The Dallas Morning News

Wedged between a steel plant and the railroad tracks, the Maple Avenue lot doesn't look like a choice location for a new apartment community.

But developer Printice Gary sees beyond what's there today.

"Over the long term, the prospects for this location are outstanding," said Mr. Gary, who plans to build 224 apartments on the property located just south of Inwood Road.

Mr. Gary and his partners in the 5225 Maple Avenue project have reason to be bullish about the Maple Avenue corridor.
Sandwiched between the booming medical center district on Harry Hines and the prosperous Oak Lawn area, Maple Avenue has been so far bypassed by most developers. But that may not be the case for long.

Along with Mr. Gary's development, several other property plans along Maple between Oak Lawn and Inwood promise to bring new activity to the area.

"No one has noticed us over here, but we have been moving along and making progress," said Ray Quintanilla, chairman of the Maple Avenue Economic Development Corp., which will be the primary owner of the apartments when they are finished. "We've been hoping for something to happen here for 20 years, and it's finally starting to turn around."

Mr. Quintanilla's family has owned a furniture store on Maple for decades. He says he remembers when Mr. Gary first proposed turning the property, the former site of a grain elevator, into apartments.

"That took us by surprise," Mr. Quintanilla said. "But he showed us that it makes sense."

The deal makes sense, in part because of the nearby University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas and Parkland Memorial Hospital.

"The location of the medical complex four blocks west of the site, including 20,000 to 25,000 jobs, was seen as a natural tenant source for the new apartments," said Mr. Gary, whose Carleton Residential Properties will be an investment partner in the project, along with GSSW Co.

BGO Architects designed the building, and Bank of America provided financing.

Rents in the apartment complex will range from about $650 to just under $1,200 a month _ or $1.03 per square foot on average. Most new apartments in nearby Uptown rent for $1.15 per square foot or more.

The first apartments should be ready for tenants early next year.

That's good news for longtime Maple Avenue businesses and newcomers to the area, said Charlie Bond, president of the nearby Elliott's Hardware store. Elliott's has been a landmark on Maple Avenue since the 1940s.

"I'm not surprised at all that development is finally happening. I've been expecting it," said Mr. Bond. "This area has been ripe for redevelopment for a lot of years."

Mr. Bond said he's keeping an eye on the old steel plant across Motor Street from his store. Real estate brokers predict that the medical school, county hospital district or another apartment developer will get the almost 20-acre site.


The Parkland Health & Hospital System is reviewing plans to redevelop the historic Woodlawn hospital buildings at Maple and Oak Lawn Avenue into a patient education center and local hub for nonprofit health care agencies.

"We are still in the process of evaluating the proposals [from developers and architects] that have come in," said Parkland spokeswoman April Foran.

Whatever happens to the vacant Woodlawn buildings will be an improvement for the neighborhood, said Frank Ashmore, whose family has run the nearby Sunshine Laundry for 61 years. "It will be great to have those buildings redone," Mr. Ashmore said. "Every little bit that gets redeveloped down here helps."

Developer Steve Shafer recently built a 15,000-square-foot shopping center on Maple Avenue near Elliott's and was surprised by the strong demand for new commercial space.

Lenders were less enthusiastic, he said. "It was very difficult to finance, even though it was 100 percent pre-leased," said Mr. Shafer, who has built retail all over North Texas. "I had a million calls from people wanting to lease space in it."

Mr. Quintanilla said he's hoping that the new apartment development and other projects planned along Maple will open investors' eyes.

"We're finally going to see some dirt flying," he said.

MustangMonkey
06-10-2002, 08:13 AM
I drove through this area on Friday, after I went by the existing SYMS site on Mocking bird. I must say that this area is looking great; alot of new construction and revitalization of older homes/ buildings.

http://a1416.g.akamai.net/f/1416/744/1s/www.dallasnews.com/img/06-02/060702_bus_maple_area.gif

GarrettCarey
06-10-2002, 10:05 AM
Have not driven by the area yet, but will be soon. Sounds like things are really taking shape over there.

How was the SYMS site on Mockingbird? How would a Wal-Mart fit in over there? WOuld it really be an "oversized gorilla?" Or could it fit in nicely with the right landscaping and architecture?

MustangMonkey
06-10-2002, 12:29 PM
Well I'm sure you are aware that Mockingbird is very busy around the airport. At this location Mockingbird dosen't have any left-turn-lanes and the median is less than two feet wide (so no room to build one without significant construction)
The store would be right next to a Home Depot that frounts Lemmon Ave; the WalMart would also have access via Lemmon.

I wasn't able to identify any imediate neighborhoods that would have cut through traffic, since the roads simply do not run in a way that would alow people to conveniently cut through. Although people could try and simply find out that they made their trip longer.

The neighborhoods outside the Mockingbird/Inwood/Lemmon loop could be the ones complaining, and I see potential for their concerns but I didn't examine the area enough to know if their concerns where valid.

I wish I knew what the exact concerns are, so I could take a look for myself.


I did see an alternate location further down on Lemmon.

Then, again, I don't realy know if you need a reason for not wanting a huge walmart so close to your house. Crime potential could be a reason. I don't know if walmarts make crime increase or not or if it is just crime at the store or if it filters to surrounding areas.

Even if the crime excalates at the store only, it could potentially makes insurance rates go up and property values go down in the surrounding neighborhoods.

Then again they might just think it will look to much like a big ugly walmart. The SYMS store is no prize, but this walmart is supposedly huge, filling up the entire block.

GarrettCarey
08-05-2002, 08:56 PM
Has there been any noticeable progress with this development? I have neither seen or heard anything. Just curious.

rantanamo
10-21-2003, 10:38 PM
I drove by 5225. Sorry I didn't get any pics, as I had forgotten all about the project and barely saw it. Very, very, very nice looking building. Looks like it would fit right in some of the nicer parts of town. I also noticed that there is a demolition of a very large warehouse, and some sort of construction going on next to a newer apt complex near mockingbird and maple. When you guys were talking about this earlier I could not picture the area. Now I see that it's right by where all the UT Southwestern construction. The tallest tower building is really nice, now that I saw it up close.

As for the Wal-Mart, after walking this area for the last week and a half I'm absolutely shocked they turned this thing down. OK, ignore that. I'll try to say this without being making up stereotypes. Or maybe I'll just explain it more thoroughly in the Wal-Mart thread.

CARTMAN
10-22-2003, 03:49 PM
I agree. A discount grocery store is badly needed in the Downtown/Uptown area. As much as I like Target, it only has a limited selection for basic tolietries. They have mostly nice house items and thats it. Plus there isn't a Super Target in that general area anyway.

I don't know why they didn't propose a Neighborhood Wal-Wart or regular Wal-Mart. Unbelieveble, they turned the whole thing down.

JaeTex
10-22-2003, 05:30 PM
I need to get my bearings straight. We are talking about the failed Wal Mart at Mockingbird and Lemmon, yes? Traffic is already horrible in that area, WM would make it tons worse.

rantanamo
10-23-2003, 12:11 AM
Where the Walmart was proposed I have seen light enough traffic to actually walk out onto the traffic lanes and photograph intersections. I have not been able to do this at any major road in Dallas proper at any time later than 9am on Sunday mornings. I can't do it on Lemmon. I can't do it on Inwood. Lovers Ln has lots of traffic. Lemmon in that area only has a decent amount. Mockingbird in that area has almost none compared to other major streets in Dallas between Inwood and Harry Hines. Once you approach the tollway, there still isn't near the traffic one sees east of the tollway. I'm sorry to bring up this old issue, but I am just so shocked at the untruths told about the Walmart site. There was no legitimate reason for it not to be built.

rantanamo
11-05-2003, 10:52 PM
5225 Maple (Cool looking Apt building IMO)

http://home.comcast.net/~randyman2426/SuburbanSkylines/DSC09377.JPG

Kelley USA
11-06-2003, 08:59 AM
looks like a suburban high school...

Columbus Civil
11-06-2003, 09:05 AM
The land around this complex, including where the old warehouse is being torn down, has been bought by Parkland.

rantanamo
11-06-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by Kelley USA
looks like a suburban high school...

Kind of reminds me of the older high schools in Dallas like Sunset or the old Crozier Tech building. But it is really nice in person. Looms very large on that section of Maple.

I think the land around it is part of the new UT Southwestern campus from looking at the map on their website. That place is gonna be huge when it's all said and done.

Columbus Civil
11-06-2003, 09:40 AM
5101 Maple (large parcel just south of 5225 Maple) and 5202 Redfield (just west of 5101 Maple) are both owned by Dallas County Hospital District.

214
11-06-2003, 09:26 PM
isnt DART going to build a station in that same area,does anyone know where exactly?

INTX dave
11-07-2003, 12:18 AM
The planned DART line will run right next to these apts and two stations will be located nearby. One will be at Motor Street just east of Harry Hines (Parkland Station) and the other will be at Inwood and Denton Drive.

psukhu
01-10-2004, 08:52 PM
I drove by here today and it looks like a massive lot is being cleared for another large development just to the south.

gc
01-11-2004, 02:16 AM
I saw the same thing. I am curious to what happens next.

clipper
01-12-2004, 02:43 PM
Parkland Hospital bought that land at Maple and Motor for future expansion. As part of the deal the old industrial buildings and any environmental had to be cleaned up.

crescentboi
05-01-2004, 09:00 PM
So is this completed? How's that area doing? Haven't been there in a long time. Any pics?